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Postby Bavin » Fri May 21, 2010 8:05 am

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This is a proper musket.
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Postby Dbrought » Fri May 21, 2010 8:22 am

yes but its moare fun when i think of them as beastly overpowered muskets in SPACE! but that is just me
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Postby Ekilion » Fri May 21, 2010 8:38 am

Of The Arch ilands wrote:So any who with my puppet installed i the region what's the current active threads ?


I don't think there are any.

Someone needs to make one
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Postby Of The Arch ilands » Fri May 21, 2010 9:02 am

Ekilion wrote:
Of The Arch ilands wrote:So any who with my puppet installed i the region what's the current active threads ?


I don't think there are any.

Someone needs to make one


Hmmm well im formulating a thread hat will put America back with the super powers lol and no it does not include invading Spanish Mexico XD they can keep there damn land lol im thinking big :)
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Postby FS_America » Fri May 21, 2010 10:29 am

OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them

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Postby Ekilion » Fri May 21, 2010 10:34 am

FS_America wrote:OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them


The Spanish-American war is the only thing the old FSA did.
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Postby FS_America » Fri May 21, 2010 11:13 am

Ekilion wrote:
FS_America wrote:OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them


The Spanish-American war is the only thing the old FSA did.



okaydokie :) looks like i am thinking on a much grander scale than the previous player ha ha :P

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Postby Techno-Soviet » Fri May 21, 2010 11:36 am

Bavin wrote:Image

This is a proper musket.


That looks tiny. Real muskets are eight feet in length.
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Postby Dbrought » Fri May 21, 2010 11:40 am

FS_America wrote:OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them

hey if you want to go America you need repeating rifles revolvers and muskets. repeating rifles and revolvers were the biggest thing in America in the late 19th century. though there were still plenty of muskets and muzzle loaders

edit: btw i'm done with exams so i am going to have the whole spice thread and my coming to earth again start up. Here is my possible plan.

In OMG's trade conference i find some way to discover my origins as a former Arab colony ship that was lost. (or possibly Japanese? maybe a joint colony ship? idk what is the state of the Japanese Empire as i just noticed they are available?)

then in another thread i discover the Dune world with the spice. I will be mostly ripping Frank Huerburt only their wont be any people on it. i will find it and claim it as my new homeworld. then when i mention it you guys can find me and try to stake claims.

then in another thread i will post my return to earth and unification of the Arab states (or japan if i switch) which will include my elimination (killing banishing etc) or subjugation (bribing, convincing, etc) of any puppet governments that currently exist. i will take control, but only have the unified land on EE earth as a political instrument. my true power will be my domination of the new spice trade and the new planet. which i will have nearly all more power centered on.

so i will begin this chain of events soon.
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Postby Ekilion » Fri May 21, 2010 11:43 am

Dbrought wrote:
FS_America wrote:OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them

hey if you want to go America you need repeating rifles revolvers and muskets. repeating rifles and revolvers were the biggest thing in America in the late 19th century. though there were still plenty of muskets and muzzle loaders


Repeating rifles are in use everywhere.

The issue is that they heat up REALLY FAST. (Rapid Fire railguns do that). I use them for royal marine weapons because very few people have shields on there ship-defenders, and my guys have to wear heat resistance gloves and other outfits
Factbook: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25855
Ekon: We try to avoid getting ourselves genocided
Premislyd: ^First time I've ever heard that

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Postby FS_America » Fri May 21, 2010 11:48 am

Ekilion wrote:
Dbrought wrote:
FS_America wrote:OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them

hey if you want to go America you need repeating rifles revolvers and muskets. repeating rifles and revolvers were the biggest thing in America in the late 19th century. though there were still plenty of muskets and muzzle loaders


Repeating rifles are in use everywhere.

The issue is that they heat up REALLY FAST. (Rapid Fire railguns do that). I use them for royal marine weapons because very few people have shields on there ship-defenders, and my guys have to wear heat resistance gloves and other outfits


Ha ha ive been playing around with concepts to put me ahead of the game as tbh ive been playing around in my head with how to make things work and repeating weapons i saw as the way forward... same range (maybe a little less) one hell of a fire rate increase. my problem was as you say heat. being energy weapons they need some where to store the heat or get rid of it.


One of my ideas was alternating Small Magazines like the Lee enfields of the early 19th century.

my idea was as the heat builds up its transferred into the extra magazine locked into the Recharge slot (not quite sure where id put this) but when the first magazine over heats and the second should be fully charged. simply ejecting the first cartredge and injecting the new one still using a lever action of course.

This would drastically increase the rate of fire. how ever it would have to be controlled rate of fire for fear of Overload and blowing your self to bits
i have a few other ideas but ima keep them to me self for now they are rough ideas i need to smooth out

I will let slip how ever i am thinking of a bolt action as both types of weapons where available in the late 18th century
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Postby Ekilion » Fri May 21, 2010 12:34 pm

FS_America wrote:
Ekilion wrote:
Dbrought wrote:
FS_America wrote:OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them

hey if you want to go America you need repeating rifles revolvers and muskets. repeating rifles and revolvers were the biggest thing in America in the late 19th century. though there were still plenty of muskets and muzzle loaders


Repeating rifles are in use everywhere.

The issue is that they heat up REALLY FAST. (Rapid Fire railguns do that). I use them for royal marine weapons because very few people have shields on there ship-defenders, and my guys have to wear heat resistance gloves and other outfits


Ha ha ive been playing around with concepts to put me ahead of the game as tbh ive been playing around in my head with how to make things work and repeating weapons i saw as the way forward... same range (maybe a little less) one hell of a fire rate increase. my problem was as you say heat. being energy weapons they need some where to store the heat or get rid of it.


One of my ideas was alternating Small Magazines like the Lee enfields of the early 19th century.

my idea was as the heat builds up its transferred into the extra magazine locked into the Recharge slot (not quite sure where id put this) but when the first magazine over heats and the second should be fully charged. simply ejecting the first cartredge and injecting the new one still using a lever action of course.

This would drastically increase the rate of fire. how ever it would have to be controlled rate of fire for fear of Overload and blowing your self to bits
i have a few other ideas but ima keep them to me self for now they are rough ideas i need to smooth out

I will let slip how ever i am thinking of a bolt action as both types of weapons where available in the late 18th century


I have a bolt action like the Lee Enfield but it only holds 3 or 4 shots per clip. It can be fired pretty quick but the barrel has to be changed every 4 clips (rate of fire maches the lee enfield)
Factbook: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25855
Ekon: We try to avoid getting ourselves genocided
Premislyd: ^First time I've ever heard that

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Postby FS_America » Fri May 21, 2010 12:41 pm

Ekilion wrote:
FS_America wrote:
Ekilion wrote:
Dbrought wrote:
FS_America wrote:OOOO would you look at that A shiny New Factbook!


lol im a need help on this guys as im not the original player i don't know much of the history, but other than that I think im good i want to reinvent the Federated states and make it my own i don't really want to be in the shadow of the first player. so all I need are the most notable events of the Federated States to the current date :)

If you could post them here as well as to not clutter up my Factbook or even better TG me them

hey if you want to go America you need repeating rifles revolvers and muskets. repeating rifles and revolvers were the biggest thing in America in the late 19th century. though there were still plenty of muskets and muzzle loaders


Repeating rifles are in use everywhere.

The issue is that they heat up REALLY FAST. (Rapid Fire railguns do that). I use them for royal marine weapons because very few people have shields on there ship-defenders, and my guys have to wear heat resistance gloves and other outfits


Ha ha ive been playing around with concepts to put me ahead of the game as tbh ive been playing around in my head with how to make things work and repeating weapons i saw as the way forward... same range (maybe a little less) one hell of a fire rate increase. my problem was as you say heat. being energy weapons they need some where to store the heat or get rid of it.


One of my ideas was alternating Small Magazines like the Lee enfields of the early 19th century.

my idea was as the heat builds up its transferred into the extra magazine locked into the Recharge slot (not quite sure where id put this) but when the first magazine over heats and the second should be fully charged. simply ejecting the first cartredge and injecting the new one still using a lever action of course.

This would drastically increase the rate of fire. how ever it would have to be controlled rate of fire for fear of Overload and blowing your self to bits
i have a few other ideas but ima keep them to me self for now they are rough ideas i need to smooth out

I will let slip how ever i am thinking of a bolt action as both types of weapons where available in the late 18th century


I have a bolt action like the Lee Enfield but it only holds 3 or 4 shots per clip. It can be fired pretty quick but the barrel has to be changed every 4 clips (rate of fire maches the lee enfield)


yeh that was my idea but the cartridge being a power pack instead . with he bolt action initiating a chemical mixture which is then converted into energy which then fired Unleashes a lance of energy, possibly with less power than a musket but the benefits would be greater accuracy and Faster firing speed, the reduced energy output would give the barrel a longer Life.

Also OMG can i ask that you edit the OP to say that America now has an Active player. Also im about to post a thread for this :) feel free to join in ! its essentially a colonisation thread, ill have it up soon :) and I think I will draw up a map of the solar system.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri May 21, 2010 3:23 pm

The issue with repeating rifles is that they're far weaker than regular muskets. Basically anything that has internal moving parts in it won't be able to take the stress and heat of a full-power railgun, so they have to be toned down a bit. Regular automatic rifles and such exist, and they're used by skirmishers against formations of infantry whose shields have been taken down, and other skirmishers, of course.

EDIT:
Also, Italy backed out on us, so his state is now available.

As to the effect of this on the Italian situation, this rules out any invasion of Italy proper, however, we can go with a partitioning of Italy's African possessions. We'll just say that Italy fell into some form of anarchy as a result of its king going bonkers, allowing other powers to step in and take Italy's possessions into 'protective custody'.

Feel free to do this in whatever manner you see fit.

Italy will not be getting islandized, though. So just ignore that particular bit. If/When a new player comes along we can work out the details, but until that time, Italy is considered as a regular NPC state.
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Postby Stellar Britain » Fri May 21, 2010 3:36 pm

Tag.

Ord needs to poast D:<

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri May 21, 2010 10:50 pm

A bit of clarification on the Italy thing, I don't mind if parts of Italy-proper are occupied by surrounding states until such time as we get a new Italy, provided it's understood that the occupying troops will be withdrawn with minimal fuss on the establishment of a new Italian government/governments.
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Postby The Venetian Empire » Fri May 21, 2010 11:21 pm

It's a shame Italy's not getting islandized, I was looking forward to playing a sunken city and it somewhat complicates things.
Still, so long as Ord's still in, I'm happy to go ahead with the Venetian-Abyssinian War. I'll post an ORBAT for my troops in Africa as soon as possible. I may also be taking over some of Italy- Sardinia looks like a juicy target. The Venetians have always liked islands.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri May 21, 2010 11:24 pm

Just so long as you decamp when the new Italian player arrives.
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Postby Venusian France » Sat May 22, 2010 12:35 am

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=52176

Ive started a new thread here, its picking up where Empire Stuff left off.

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Postby Soviet Anatolia » Sat May 22, 2010 1:12 pm

Would anyone mind if I went for Italian Tunisia?
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat May 22, 2010 1:39 pm

Soviet Anatolia wrote:Would anyone mind if I went for Italian Tunisia?

OOCly? No. But ICly, you'd have quite a fight on your hands, since France and Venice have both claimed it. And Venice hates the Ottomans anyway, so you'd be risking a major war if you attacked- especially with the Venetians all hyped up.
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Postby Ekilion » Sat May 22, 2010 1:41 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Soviet Anatolia wrote:Would anyone mind if I went for Italian Tunisia?

OOCly? No. But ICly, you'd have quite a fight on your hands, since France and Venice have both claimed it. And Venice hates the Ottomans anyway, so you'd be risking a major war if you attacked- especially with the Venetians all hyped up.


Then Russia would come into it and then Britain would have to come in cause werever the russians are the British are there too. Pretty much it would cause WW4
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat May 22, 2010 1:43 pm

Ekilion wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:
Soviet Anatolia wrote:Would anyone mind if I went for Italian Tunisia?

OOCly? No. But ICly, you'd have quite a fight on your hands, since France and Venice have both claimed it. And Venice hates the Ottomans anyway, so you'd be risking a major war if you attacked- especially with the Venetians all hyped up.


Then Russia would come into it and then Britain would have to come in cause werever the russians are the British are there too. Pretty much it would cause WW4

Providing OMG is willing to start WW4 because one of it's puppets got a bit cocky. I see what you mean though.
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Postby Of The Arch ilands » Sat May 22, 2010 2:43 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Ekilion wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:
Soviet Anatolia wrote:Would anyone mind if I went for Italian Tunisia?

OOCly? No. But ICly, you'd have quite a fight on your hands, since France and Venice have both claimed it. And Venice hates the Ottomans anyway, so you'd be risking a major war if you attacked- especially with the Venetians all hyped up.


Then Russia would come into it and then Britain would have to come in cause werever the russians are the British are there too. Pretty much it would cause WW4

Providing OMG is willing to start WW4 because one of it's puppets got a bit cocky. I see what you mean though.


And America sits on the sidelines reaping the spoils of war lol ^-^ and having all the attention of its new expedition and colonisation attempt forgotten about before it even started.... i guess ill have a system to me self then wont it ^-^
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