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Postby The United States of Soviet Britain » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:42 pm

That is the opposite of what I said. What I was trying to say was, why would you want to start a program that would help African economies. I was saying, it would be more beneficial to you, as well it would be more imperialist, to try and keep African economies down, making it easier for Madagascar and South Africa to dominate the continent.
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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:47 pm

The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:That is the opposite of what I said. What I was trying to say was, why would you want to start a program that would help African economies. I was saying, it would be more beneficial to you, as well it would be more imperialist, to try and keep African economies down, making it easier for Madagascar and South Africa to dominate the continent.


Well I could RP that the ATP is to limit curtain African Nations, but they don't know it until it's too late

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Postby The United States of Soviet Britain » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:49 pm

Jurestist wrote:
The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:That is the opposite of what I said. What I was trying to say was, why would you want to start a program that would help African economies. I was saying, it would be more beneficial to you, as well it would be more imperialist, to try and keep African economies down, making it easier for Madagascar and South Africa to dominate the continent.


Well I could RP that the ATP is to limit curtain African Nations, but they don't know it until it's too late


That would be better for Imperialist Bloc ambitions.
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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:59 pm

So I will be setting up the African Trade Partnership or ATP for short which will be this RP version of the TPP it will be set up between five African nations and five non-African nations.

Five main African Nations
  1. Libya
  2. Democratic Republic of the Congo
  3. Angola
  4. Namibia
  5. Somalia


Foreign Nations
  1. Jurestist
  2. Japan
  3. Indonesia
  4. South Africa
  5. Madagascar


This is the set up for the Secretive ATP agreement where the Foreign Nations make off better than the African Nations, but the African nations don't know it yet. To the person RPing the DRC you can make it so your government finds out about what's going on and leaves the ATP while trying to get the other African nations to leave with you, but their government think that your government is trying to cheat them out of becoming a an African Superpower or something like that. The reason the other African nations don't believe the DRC is because they are seeing profits just the Foreign nations profits are higher they just don't know it.
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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:02 pm

1st, USSB it's cool if you have those nations under your socialist sphere of influence.

2nd, Jurestist I recommend you keep your hands off of other African nations... The United States is allocating major funds towards the DRC to form a union in Central and South African regions.

3rd, USA+USSR=ULTRA POWERS!!!
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Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

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Postby Grand Switzerland » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:03 pm

Jurestist wrote:So I will be setting up the African Trade Partnership or ATP for short which will be this RP version of the TPP it will be set up between five African nations and five non-African nations.

Five main African Nations
  1. Libya
  2. Democratic Republic of the Congo
  3. Angola
  4. Namibia
  5. Somalia


Foreign Nations
  1. Jurestist
  2. Japan
  3. Indonesia
  4. South Africa
  5. Madagascar


This is the set up for the Secretive ATP agreement where the Foreign Nations make off better than the African Nations, but the African nations don't know it yet. To the person RPing the DRC you can make it so your government finds out about what's going on and leaves the ATP while trying to get the other African nations to leave with you, but their government think that your government is trying to cheat them out of becoming a an African Superpower or something like that.


I'm going to destry the ATP at all costs.
Thank you usa for the money, im going use it good.

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:06 pm

Antarcteca wrote:1st, USSB it's cool if you have those nations under your socialist sphere of influence.

2nd, Jurestist I recommend you keep your hands off of other African nations... The United States is allocating major funds towards the DRC to form a union in Central and South African regions.

3rd, USA+USSR=ULTRA POWERS!!!


First South Africa is an Imperialist Bloc nation so it is the Imperialist Bloc's voice in Africa

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:09 pm

Grand Switzerland wrote:
Jurestist wrote:So I will be setting up the African Trade Partnership or ATP for short which will be this RP version of the TPP it will be set up between five African nations and five non-African nations.

Five main African Nations
  1. Libya
  2. Democratic Republic of the Congo
  3. Angola
  4. Namibia
  5. Somalia


Foreign Nations
  1. Jurestist
  2. Japan
  3. Indonesia
  4. South Africa
  5. Madagascar


This is the set up for the Secretive ATP agreement where the Foreign Nations make off better than the African Nations, but the African nations don't know it yet. To the person RPing the DRC you can make it so your government finds out about what's going on and leaves the ATP while trying to get the other African nations to leave with you, but their government think that your government is trying to cheat them out of becoming a an African Superpower or something like that.


I'm going to destry the ATP at all costs.
Thank you usa for the money, im going use it good.


Your goal would be to get the other nations to leave the ATP, but most will not. Libya should be the first to leave and Somalia will not leave at any cost

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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:12 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Grand Switzerland wrote:
I'm going to destry the ATP at all costs.
Thank you usa for the money, im going use it good.


Your goal would be to get the other nations to leave the ATP, but most will not. Libya should be the first to leave and Somalia will not leave at any cost


Somalia will leave if we buy them off :twisted:
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Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:12 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:1st, USSB it's cool if you have those nations under your socialist sphere of influence.

2nd, Jurestist I recommend you keep your hands off of other African nations... The United States is allocating major funds towards the DRC to form a union in Central and South African regions.

3rd, USA+USSR=ULTRA POWERS!!!


First South Africa is an Imperialist Bloc nation so it is the Imperialist Bloc's voice in Africa


It is going to be a weak voice because of heavily funded and influenced DRC.
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Antarctic Continent: New San Francisco, New California, Antara, Rhilea, Terre, Royale, West Sillia, East Sillia, Arkea, Trois Portes, Courte, Central Federal Territory
Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:19 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
First South Africa is an Imperialist Bloc nation so it is the Imperialist Bloc's voice in Africa


It is going to be a weak voice because of heavily funded and influenced DRC.


No, it's a strong voice because it would be the most stable nation in Africa aside from Madagascar

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:20 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
Your goal would be to get the other nations to leave the ATP, but most will not. Libya should be the first to leave and Somalia will not leave at any cost


Somalia will leave if we buy them off :twisted:


Given that Somalia is Imperialist Bloc leaning it will discover the deception on it's own and con it's way into being a full Imperialist Bloc member

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Postby The United States of Soviet Britain » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:22 pm

A TPP style trade organization in Africa will be destabilizing.

International corporations working in Africa will love the ATP. They'll use it to start corporate operations in Africa, putting domestic and local Africans in an even harsher position of joblessness, or worse, it will force them into a similar situation as Chinese workers.

That's how you get a Communist Revolution son.
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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:22 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
It is going to be a weak voice because of heavily funded and influenced DRC.


No, it's a strong voice because it would be the most stable nation in Africa aside from Madagascar


Not if the most financially advanced and stable economy are being poured into the DRC.... Like seriously look at Israel and imagine if it wasn't funded by the US. DRC is the Israel of africa.
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Antarctic Continent: New San Francisco, New California, Antara, Rhilea, Terre, Royale, West Sillia, East Sillia, Arkea, Trois Portes, Courte, Central Federal Territory
Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:23 pm

The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:A TPP style trade organization in Africa will be destabilizing.

International corporations working in Africa will love the ATP. They'll use it to start corporate operations in Africa, putting domestic and local Africans in an even harsher position of joblessness, or worse, it will force them into a similar situation as Chinese workers.

That's how you get a Communist Revolution son.


Me and the USSB could even testify against you at the UN for creating an inhumane organization full of fraud and malice.
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Antarctic Continent: New San Francisco, New California, Antara, Rhilea, Terre, Royale, West Sillia, East Sillia, Arkea, Trois Portes, Courte, Central Federal Territory
Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:28 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
No, it's a strong voice because it would be the most stable nation in Africa aside from Madagascar


Not if the most financially advanced and stable economy are being poured into the DRC.... Like seriously look at Israel and imagine if it wasn't funded by the US. DRC is the Israel of africa.


South African would have years of funding behind it the person RPing the DRC would first have to RP fining out about the ATP deception and then going to NATO and asking to join then you could start funding them. South Africa has been getting funding from me starting in the 1930's and then when the Imperialist Bloc formed they got funding and trade from the other Imperialist Bloc nations.

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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:30 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
Not if the most financially advanced and stable economy are being poured into the DRC.... Like seriously look at Israel and imagine if it wasn't funded by the US. DRC is the Israel of africa.


South African would have years of funding behind it the person RPing the DRC would first have to RP fining out about the ATP deception and then going to NATO and asking to join then you could start funding them. South Africa has been getting funding from me starting in the 1930's and then when the Imperialist Bloc formed they got funding and trade from the other Imperialist Bloc nations.


The only difference is that the United States could fund 80 years of your funding in a few months... :lol2: ;)
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Antarctic Continent: New San Francisco, New California, Antara, Rhilea, Terre, Royale, West Sillia, East Sillia, Arkea, Trois Portes, Courte, Central Federal Territory
Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:31 pm

The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:A TPP style trade organization in Africa will be destabilizing.

International corporations working in Africa will love the ATP. They'll use it to start corporate operations in Africa, putting domestic and local Africans in an even harsher position of joblessness, or worse, it will force them into a similar situation as Chinese workers.

That's how you get a Communist Revolution son.


The only thing that is different is that it doesn't allow the outsourcing of jobs it would create an environment to create jobs in those countries for their people the only deception would be the fact that they are not getting much profit from their labor and that's all.

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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:32 pm

Jurestist wrote:
The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:A TPP style trade organization in Africa will be destabilizing.

International corporations working in Africa will love the ATP. They'll use it to start corporate operations in Africa, putting domestic and local Africans in an even harsher position of joblessness, or worse, it will force them into a similar situation as Chinese workers.

That's how you get a Communist Revolution son.


The only thing that is different is that it doesn't allow the outsourcing of jobs it would create an environment to create jobs in those countries for their people the only deception would be the fact that they are not getting much profit from their labor and that's all.


That is what you want us to think.
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Antarctic Continent: New San Francisco, New California, Antara, Rhilea, Terre, Royale, West Sillia, East Sillia, Arkea, Trois Portes, Courte, Central Federal Territory
Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:33 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
South African would have years of funding behind it the person RPing the DRC would first have to RP fining out about the ATP deception and then going to NATO and asking to join then you could start funding them. South Africa has been getting funding from me starting in the 1930's and then when the Imperialist Bloc formed they got funding and trade from the other Imperialist Bloc nations.


The only difference is that the United States could fund 80 years of your funding in a few months... :lol2: ;)


We're starting in the Great Recession era for the RP so your economy is down as well as mine except that mine would recover a bit faster as most of it is private sector and would not require the Collective to do much to fix it as it would fall on the company directors

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:35 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
The only thing that is different is that it doesn't allow the outsourcing of jobs it would create an environment to create jobs in those countries for their people the only deception would be the fact that they are not getting much profit from their labor and that's all.


That is what you want us to think.


That's what I know because that's how it will be RP'd that nations create jobs in manufacturing, but most of the profit go to the foreign nations in the deal

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Postby Antarcteca » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:37 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
The only difference is that the United States could fund 80 years of your funding in a few months... :lol2: ;)


Funny you should say that, President Barack Obama will be presenting AmericaWorks, a jobs program -- in turn taking me out of the recession earlier. I'm sharing this program with NATO members as well.
We're starting in the Great Recession era for the RP so your economy is down as well as mine except that mine would recover a bit faster as most of it is private sector and would not require the Collective to do much to fix it as it would fall on the company directors
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Link of The Day
Antarctic Continent: New San Francisco, New California, Antara, Rhilea, Terre, Royale, West Sillia, East Sillia, Arkea, Trois Portes, Courte, Central Federal Territory
Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Jurestist » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:47 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
We're starting in the Great Recession era for the RP so your economy is down as well as mine except that mine would recover a bit faster as most of it is private sector and would not require the Collective to do much to fix it as it would fall on the company directors

Funny you should say that, President Barack Obama will be presenting AmericaWorks, a jobs program -- in turn taking me out of the recession earlier. I'm sharing this program with NATO members as well.



I see you watch House of Cards which is a great show, but back to the RP if you look in the factbook on my nationpage the private companies you see there will be the new companies that start up in the place of the other ones failing and they would boost the Jurestist economy back to stable in a few months and then by the next year in the RP it will be back to normal levels.

How the ATP works it is a program to boost up jobs in other countries all the while making it easier for foreign nations in the deal to take in 3x more profit than the African nations in the deal only taking in 1/2 of the total profits from what they're producing. So for every new jobs program they introduce they take in less and less in profits.

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Postby The United States of Soviet Britain » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:52 pm

Guys, I know we are all very RP-deprived, but please, stop spilling all of your RP plans now, or they won't be interesting when the RP starts
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