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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:05 pm

So who wants to harbor a JSU agent who leaks secrets about a JSU prison island where "Enhanced Interrogation" goes on

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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:06 pm

Jurestist wrote:So who wants to harbor a JSU agent who leaks secrets about a JSU prison island where "Enhanced Interrogation" goes on


The CIA will be working with a JSU Agent?
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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:10 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:So who wants to harbor a JSU agent who leaks secrets about a JSU prison island where "Enhanced Interrogation" goes on


The CIA will be working with a JSU Agent?


He could run to the US after he leaks the information about the JSU Island Prison and then they could offer him protection or a job

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Postby The United States of Soviet Britain » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:16 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
The CIA will be working with a JSU Agent?


He could run to the US after he leaks the information about the JSU Island Prison and then they could offer him protection or a job


Joint KGB-CIA espionage operation involving the JSU agent.
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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:18 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
The CIA will be working with a JSU Agent?


He could run to the US after he leaks the information about the JSU Island Prison and then they could offer him protection or a job


We will provide him with a new identity as a CI (confidential informant). This means his information is highly classified and encrypted.
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GDP: $N 391 Million
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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:22 pm

The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
He could run to the US after he leaks the information about the JSU Island Prison and then they could offer him protection or a job


Joint KGB-CIA espionage operation involving the JSU agent.


that could happen after he leaks the information, but storming the island prison would be a logistics nightmare as only the best JNA Marines are there and there are about 9000 of them and 30,000 JSU agents there. All he would want is protection from trial from JDF High Command

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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:24 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
He could run to the US after he leaks the information about the JSU Island Prison and then they could offer him protection or a job


We will provide him with a new identity as a CI (confidential informant). This means his information is highly classified and encrypted.


wouldn't be that hard to give him a new identity as every JSU Agent who works for the JSU's International Branch have their whole lives wiped clean to the point as if they were never born and the JSU only restore after the agent retires

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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:32 pm

Jurestist wrote:
The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:
Joint KGB-CIA espionage operation involving the JSU agent.


that could happen after he leaks the information, but storming the island prison would be a logistics nightmare as only the best JNA Marines are there and there are about 9000 of them and 30,000 JSU agents there. All he would want is protection from trial from JDF High Command


30,000 is way too much for your country, let alone an island.
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Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

Having fought Antarteca twice before, we have developed a respect of the Grand Republic. There fore, we declare war on all enemy's of Antarteca

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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:41 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
that could happen after he leaks the information, but storming the island prison would be a logistics nightmare as only the best JNA Marines are there and there are about 9000 of them and 30,000 JSU agents there. All he would want is protection from trial from JDF High Command


30,000 is way too much for your country, let alone an island.


no it not, remember the water pipeline system that was started in the 1930's well it would be 2008 so the desert areas wouldn't be desert and the Stateless peoples act lasted until the 1980's where it was stopped because too many people were coming into the country and putting a strain on the social welfare system and the economy. There enough population in the country to support that many JSU Agents. The JDF, JNA, and JAF are all volunteer based so not everybody who can serve serves, but enough serve. Jurestist citizens are more likely to join the JSU than the Jurestist Military

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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:47 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
30,000 is way too much for your country, let alone an island.


no it not, remember the water pipeline system that was started in the 1930's well it would be 2008 so the desert areas wouldn't be desert and the Stateless peoples act lasted until the 1980's where it was stopped because too many people were coming into the country and putting a strain on the social welfare system and the economy. There enough population in the country to support that many JSU Agents. The JDF, JNA, and JAF are all volunteer based so not everybody who can serve serves, but enough serve. Jurestist citizens are more likely to join the JSU than the Jurestist Military


What is your population exactly? And what your telling me is your JSU population is larger than your militaries? Which means your military is quite small which means your open and unsafe...?
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Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:52 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
no it not, remember the water pipeline system that was started in the 1930's well it would be 2008 so the desert areas wouldn't be desert and the Stateless peoples act lasted until the 1980's where it was stopped because too many people were coming into the country and putting a strain on the social welfare system and the economy. There enough population in the country to support that many JSU Agents. The JDF, JNA, and JAF are all volunteer based so not everybody who can serve serves, but enough serve. Jurestist citizens are more likely to join the JSU than the Jurestist Military


What is your population exactly?


It's in the millions, but it's not 10million, I think 7 million seems fare as the Collective Repealed the Stateless Peoples act in the 80's of course your population would increase as well with birth rates.

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Postby The United States of Soviet Britain » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:57 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
What is your population exactly?


It's in the millions, but it's not 10million, I think 7 million seems fare as the Collective Repealed the Stateless Peoples act in the 80's of course your population would increase as well with birth rates.


Even Australia's population is bigger than that.
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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:01 pm

The United States of Soviet Britain wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
It's in the millions, but it's not 10million, I think 7 million seems fare as the Collective Repealed the Stateless Peoples act in the 80's of course your population would increase as well with birth rates.


Even Australia's population is bigger than that.


starting by their 1930's population, but if you can figure it out be my guest

This link should help
http://www.populstat.info/Oceania/australc.htm

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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:04 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
What is your population exactly?


It's in the millions, but it's not 10million, I think 7 million seems fare as the Collective Repealed the Stateless Peoples act in the 80's of course your population would increase as well with birth rates.


You're agent size would be about 30,000 at the rates you provided and your military would be 20,000 or 15,000 (considering your population and the rates your provided.
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Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
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Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:07 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
no it not, remember the water pipeline system that was started in the 1930's well it would be 2008 so the desert areas wouldn't be desert and the Stateless peoples act lasted until the 1980's where it was stopped because too many people were coming into the country and putting a strain on the social welfare system and the economy. There enough population in the country to support that many JSU Agents. The JDF, JNA, and JAF are all volunteer based so not everybody who can serve serves, but enough serve. Jurestist citizens are more likely to join the JSU than the Jurestist Military


What is your population exactly? And what your telling me is your JSU population is larger than your militaries? Which means your military is quite small which means your open and unsafe...?


The Military is the JDF, JAF, JNA, and JSU.

The JSU would be like the National Guard and FBI rolled into one as they have two branches one National and one International so more people are willing to sign up for the national guard because they stay home more often and are only called into action if there is an invasion of the homeland. Which is why the JDF is called the Jurestist Defense Force as there are enough for defense, but for this RP there are more than enough in the JDF, JAF, and JNA to be an attacking and defending force.

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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:12 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
What is your population exactly? And what your telling me is your JSU population is larger than your militaries? Which means your military is quite small which means your open and unsafe...?


The Military is the JDF, JAF, JNA, and JSU.

The JSU would be like the National Guard and FBI rolled into one as they have two branches one National and one International so more people are willing to sign up for the national guard because they stay home more often and are only called into action if there is an invasion of the homeland. Which is why the JDF is called the Jurestist Defense Force as there are enough for defense, but for this RP there are more than enough in the JDF, JAF, and JNA to be an attacking and defending force.


So I would say 45,000 JSU plus military so about 65,000 security forces (military and JSU and more).
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Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:18 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
The Military is the JDF, JAF, JNA, and JSU.

The JSU would be like the National Guard and FBI rolled into one as they have two branches one National and one International so more people are willing to sign up for the national guard because they stay home more often and are only called into action if there is an invasion of the homeland. Which is why the JDF is called the Jurestist Defense Force as there are enough for defense, but for this RP there are more than enough in the JDF, JAF, and JNA to be an attacking and defending force.


So I would say 45,000 JSU plus military so about 65,000 security forces (military and JSU and more).


That seems more like a reasonable number for the island prison when the RP starts I don't plan on doing much invading with my nation, only Madagascar to Zimbabwe.
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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:38 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
So I would say 45,000 JSU plus military so about 65,000 security forces (military and JSU and more).


That seems more like a reasonable number for the island prison when the RP starts I don't plan on doing much invading with my nation, only Madagascar to Zimbabwe.


Even if you got water pipes to the desert then all you would have is available water. It still doesn't fix the fact that the weather there is still inhospitable and you cannot simply grow goods there and trying to grow goods in the hospitable lands of Australia wouldn't be enough to feed the ones in the desert region. Even if you bought goods from Bloc members then would be spending way too much and then it would drain other budgets such as defense.
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Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:43 pm

Antarcteca wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
That seems more like a reasonable number for the island prison when the RP starts I don't plan on doing much invading with my nation, only Madagascar to Zimbabwe.


Even if you got water pipes to the desert then all you would have is available water. It still doesn't fix the fact that the weather there is still inhospitable and you cannot simply grow goods there and trying to grow goods in the hospitable lands of Australia wouldn't be enough to feed the ones in the desert region. Even if you bought goods from Bloc members then would be spending way too much and then it would drain other budgets such as defense.


which why I want what was Polynesia all those tropical islands there would be plenty of places to grow food and reduce the amount my nation would have to import just a note my nation doesn't export any food for reasons stated

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Postby Blayk » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:47 pm

Jurestist wrote:
Antarcteca wrote:
Even if you got water pipes to the desert then all you would have is available water. It still doesn't fix the fact that the weather there is still inhospitable and you cannot simply grow goods there and trying to grow goods in the hospitable lands of Australia wouldn't be enough to feed the ones in the desert region. Even if you bought goods from Bloc members then would be spending way too much and then it would drain other budgets such as defense.


which why I want what was Polynesia all those tropical islands there would be plenty of places to grow food and reduce the amount my nation would have to import just a note my nation doesn't export any food for reasons stated


Don't you have New Zealand?
In the Real World New Zealand produces enough food to feed 40 Million People a Year yet has a Populace of only 4.5 Million, as
they export 90% of it.
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Postby Antarcteca » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:54 pm

Blayk wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
which why I want what was Polynesia all those tropical islands there would be plenty of places to grow food and reduce the amount my nation would have to import just a note my nation doesn't export any food for reasons stated


Don't you have New Zealand?
In the Real World New Zealand produces enough food to feed 40 Million People a Year yet has a Populace of only 4.5 Million, as
they export 90% of it.


Exactly, so Jurestist you better not expand into the Polynesian islands for they have very very close ties to the United States. Invading them would not only be an act of war by you would be tried in the United Nations and possibly kicked from the Security Council.

The Polynesian and Micronesian islands are allies and trade partners with the United States and have mutual defense treaties.
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Birdmay-Aktosh Border Dispute - In Progress
Leader: Elector-Primo Phillip Dean IV
Currency: The Note
Allies: UMU and the United Council of Nations
Population: 645,700,040 Million
Military: 8.6 Million
Budget: 46.4% of GDP
GDP: $N 391 Million
Poorest 10%: $N 54,191
Avg. Per Person: $N 100,752
Richest 10%: $N 172,681[/b]

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Postby Jurestist » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:55 pm

Blayk wrote:
Jurestist wrote:
which why I want what was Polynesia all those tropical islands there would be plenty of places to grow food and reduce the amount my nation would have to import just a note my nation doesn't export any food for reasons stated


Don't you have New Zealand?
In the Real World New Zealand produces enough food to feed 40 Million People a Year yet has a Populace of only 4.5 Million, as
they export 90% of it.


I guess I can RP that the farmland was restored because of you remember during the New Zealand conflict I had the JAF Napalm the island and then the US put the fires out and turned into factory island. I could also RP that there are large Greenhouses in the Desert areas where food is grown

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