Invasion of Gilneas [TG signups, preparation stage]

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

It seems like we've had some trouble with our old threads in keeping everything streamlined and organized. This time, let's start with a preparations stage where we start to get ready for the roleplay. We ought to start the roleplay around September 1. In the meantime, we can get everything set up.

To start, here's the map of the war area. You can see that unclaimed territory exists west of 'Colona' and 'New Genov', two NPC nations. Anyone who wants to settle down on the continent of Genevieva is free to do so, moreover, encouraged to do so. If you don't have a place to call home, be sure to let me know so I can add you on the map, and you can live there forever! Dun dun dun...



Per Serrian's request, I made his country into an island state. A bit of artistic license was used -- seven islands in a small sea. As for Cedonia, I gave him the territory that was originally Serrian's. This is going to be the official Gilneas war thread. If you don't want to participate, please let me know. If you do, also let me know. However, if you have already claimed a spot of land on my map, you will be indirectly involved, but may freely remain neutral.

The spoiler below contains initial details for the start of the roleplay. We are currently in OPEN SIGNUPS, so make sure you get in. Remember, this starts on September 1.

Gilneas is an expansionist, productive state situated in and around the Gilnean Desert, after which the country was named. This desert is barren and is sparsely populated, filled only with a few tribes who have adapted and leave serenely on (and in) the dunes. Like the mythical dwarf, the Gilnean natives in the desert have successfully built an enormous system of tunnels and underground structures. They are busy miners, and, despite being natives, they are quite intelligent. They are considered by the Gilnean government to be autonomous, but the natives insist that they are at the emperor's command.

The climate of Gilneas varies significantly. 90% of the land is the barren, rocky desert (and the rich mines and cave communities below). The other 10% is fertile and rich, and spreads about 10 miles out on all sides along the borders of the kingdom. Gilneas' fertile outskirts land is said to be called the Fertile Crescent of the whole Genevievan continent.

Gilneas began as a small colonial city-state hundreds of years ago. Today, it has significantly expanded and encountered a variety of other cultures, many of which have been hostile. Gilneas has been invaded, or done the invading, in over fifty wars we know of in the last three hundred years. Unusually, the kingdom has never had any hostilites with the natives, who have always been cooperative and friendly.

Gilneas has many small rural hamlets, but the majority of the population live in busy urban centers. These include Isleta, Lake St. Paul, and of course, Gilneas City. After many wars with the neighboring nation of Lithuania-Latvia, Gilneas has successfuly conquered great chunks of land and has governed them efficiently. The barren, mostly useless desert has no roads, but a highway and railroad system runs along the border of Gilneas all aroung the fertile crescent. A large international airport, the first to be built in Genevieva, is located in Gilneas City.

The War in Gilneas, the most recent one to be specific, began at the end of August of 2014 (Gregorian Calendar). This war has already had some devastating effects, and four small nuclear explosions have at least put a dent in Gilneas' rocky geography. Though casualties have so far been minimal, Gilneas and her ally Archeuland and Baughistan have managed to re-take land gained by the invaders. The first stage of the war is over. However, angry nations -- Serria, Cedoria, and other enemies of Gilneas have only been scarred. They are fully prepared for a second wave, this time for total military domination of Gilneas and the formation of a new government.

Emperor Markus III of Archeuland has responded to pleas for help by sending in reinforcements (60,000 troops) to Gilneas, personally commanded by himself. They are stationed currently in the small village of Puero Jorge. Small contingencies are distributed along the southern border of Gilneas, acting as lookouts, waiting for any invasion from the south. Meanwhile, Gilnean troops and allied troops from Deian-Salazar are monitoring the western border along the River Serria. The small river is filled with perfect fords and crossing points, making a land attack on Gilneas easy if the border is not guarded. Some native mercenaries and volunteers have come up to the two front lines to help out. In addition, the King of Gilneas reports a substantial home guard has gathered to defend towns and the borders from attack.

The current defensive position of Gilneas, however, is precarious. The first wave of attacks, totally unexpected, nearly conquered Gilneas except for pockets of resistance and a re-grouped defense force, who quickly pushed back the foreign foe to their own countries. About a thousand were killed, not to mention the uncounted dead from four nuclear attacks. Significant areas along the western edge of the Gilnean fertile crescent include the towns of Lake St. Paul and Riverside. These towns were not captured in the first wave due to the resourcefullness of their citizens. Instead, the allied nations attacking Gilneas buzzed right past them. When the enemies of Gilneas were forced to retreat after being surrounded and pushed back, militias from these towns killed and captured about 20 or 30 retreating soldiers. However, this dumb luck may not save Gilneas next time. Gilneas is getting ready for a second wave, and so are the enemies of Gilneas across the River Serria -- Cedoria and Serriat.

And now, time having passed and only hours of ceasefire spent, the war appears to have resumed. Rumors are circulating of enemy troop movement in preparation of crossing the River Serria. The defenders of Gilneas are ready for a long fight.

If you would like to play, please see the next post.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

You durn foreigners, stay out y'hear?

By default, all nations on our map are free to play. These nations are the Oahu Empire, Seriat , Cedoria, The Grand Kingdom of Gilneas, Acharastan, Unifed Prussian States, The Royally United Provinces and Serrian. In addition, I am playing (my country is on the bottom), and some NPCs also exist, ripe for conquest (though you never know when that NPC becomes a hostile country taken over by another player).

There is a little bit of space left on the map in the top left corner, as of now (8/30/2014). So, you fur'ners, if you would like to join this map, you can ask me to add your nation in. You can be an island country in the sea, a small city-state, or a larger kingdom. We won't allow any foreign intervention from 'overseas', so if you are here to lecture us on how to roleplay (RP moderators and mentors excepted), please leave, as we will ask for your help if we need it.

In addition, you may prefer to form a new nation just for this roleplay (please keep it active), or perhaps you would like to speak with one of the nations above to RP a general or other official in their military during this war.

I alone reserve the right to ignore posts (I believe this is fair). If I see godmodding, I will call someone out for it. Follow common-sense rules. If you see something wrong, please report it to me first via telegram.

Obviously, if you only have 5 million citizens, you won't have an army any bigger than 10,000. As a rule, a roleplay army contains about 1-5% of the nation's population. Be prepared to take losses, make treaties, etc!

Keep in mind that this war map and roleplay is only part of a greater overarching roleplay coordinated at the 'Great Mixing Muscle' tread, linked here - viewtopic.php?f=5&t=308997
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To sum it up, keep it serious and 'real life' oriented. Ponies and magic and other hulabaloo can stay out and never return!

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Nations currently involved in some fashion:

Archeuland
Rutthenia
District XIV
Commonwealth of Hank the Cat

Other nations have been invited, and all nations on the map are involved per se, though I am awaiting an official response of acceptance from all of them.

[District XIV]

I think you forgot a [/spoiler] tag at the end of the very long and well-written summary

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

I think you forgot a [/spoiler] tag at the end of the very long and well-written summary

Wow, thank you. I didn't notice at first.

[District XIV]

I think you forgot a [/spoiler] tag at the end of the very long and well-written summary

Wow, thank you. I didn't notice at first.

No problem.

So that 'free to claim' territory... is it still up for grabs?

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Wow, thank you. I didn't notice at first.

No problem.

So that 'free to claim' territory... is it still up for grabs?

Yes it is, but not all of it (others may be interested). Please see my latest post (rules of rp) to know exactly what to do.

Also, I confess my concern -- your country was formed in 2012, you could overrun us all. By that I mean you have an immense population and could muster an army to conquer us all. We would have to agree on a reasonable army size. Perhaps you could form a puppet.

[District XIV]

No problem.

So that 'free to claim' territory... is it still up for grabs?

Yes it is, but not all of it (others may be interested). Please see my latest post (rules of rp) to know exactly what to do.

Also, I confess my concern -- your country was formed in 2012, you could overrun us all.

Modern District XIV was formed in the 1970s... it was originally created 600 years ago

My military only numbers 600,000 troops total, so I doubt I could 'overrun you all'.

[Rutthenia]

Could I have the light green unclaimed area above Russoviska? (If other people want it, I can claim the Eastern Half.)

[District XIV]

Could I have the light green unclaimed area above Russoviska?

That area is likely to be divided into smaller areas to everyone can get a fair take - see A&B's recent response to my post similar to yours:

No problem.

So that 'free to claim' territory... is it still up for grabs?

Yes it is, but not all of it (others may be interested). Please see my latest post (rules of rp) to know exactly what to do.

Also, I confess my concern -- your country was formed in 2012, you could overrun us all. By that I mean you have an immense population and could muster an army to conquer us all. We would have to agree on a reasonable army size. Perhaps you could form a puppet.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Could I have the light green unclaimed area above Russoviska?

Please send me a telegram first so we can discuss this.

@District XIV
600,000 troops is just fine. Perhaps you would like to form a colony of sorts on the coast?

[Rutthenia]

Could I have the light green unclaimed area above Russoviska?

That area is likely to be divided into smaller areas to everyone can get a fair take - see A&B's recent response to my post similar to yours:

Yes it is, but not all of it (others may be interested). Please see my latest post (rules of rp) to know exactly what to do.

Also, I confess my concern -- your country was formed in 2012, you could overrun us all. By that I mean you have an immense population and could muster an army to conquer us all. We would have to agree on a reasonable army size. Perhaps you could form a puppet.

I've just edited it that I'll be fine with getting an Eastern Half with connections to the Ocean/Rivers.

[District XIV]

@District XIV
600,000 troops is just fine. Perhaps you would like to form a colony of sorts on the coast?

Sure - if it could border Colona NPC that would be great.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

@District XIV
600,000 troops is just fine. Perhaps you would like to form a colony of sorts on the coast?

Sure - if it could border Colona NPC that would be great.

Glad to have you "on board".

@Rutthenia
Welcome! Thanks for your telegram. I'll add you in.

@Valaran
Welcome! Thanks for your telegram. I'll add you in as well.

[District XIV]

Also, I confess my concern -- your country was formed in 2012, you could overrun us all. By that I mean you have an immense population and could muster an army to conquer us all. We would have to agree on a reasonable army size. Perhaps you could form a puppet.

You know I don't use my game population for roleplay, right? My RP population is around 23 million - the game population is a) too unrealistic and uncreative and b) changes all the time

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Also, I confess my concern -- your country was formed in 2012, you could overrun us all. By that I mean you have an immense population and could muster an army to conquer us all. We would have to agree on a reasonable army size. Perhaps you could form a puppet.

You know I don't use my game population for roleplay, right? My RP population is around 23 million - the game population is a) too unrealistic and uncreative and b) changes all the time

My old nation had 1.5 billion, and I often exploited that population to gain respect. For instance, I had a total military force of 50 million, with 45 million as reserve troops. It was totally possible with my enormous size. I would argue for an improved population system, though. How can one compete with a nation of 20 billion?

[District XIV]

You know I don't use my game population for roleplay, right? My RP population is around 23 million - the game population is a) too unrealistic and uncreative and b) changes all the time

My old nation had 1.5 billion, and I often exploited that population to gain respect. For instance, I had a total military force of 50 million, with 45 million as reserve troops. It was totally possible with my enormous size. I would argue for an improved population system, though. How can one compete with a nation of 20 billion?

I simply don't RP with nations who use their unrealistically huge population for RP or I urge them to use a separate and lower RP population.

Then one could make the argument that 'in some cases it's fine because some nations' game population is realistic!'

But it's not because the game population goes up 5-6 million every day (1 million per day if your game population is under 25 million or so), which is extremely unrealistic.

[Commonwealth of Hank the Cat]

Reportin' in, Ally!

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

My old nation had 1.5 billion, and I often exploited that population to gain respect. For instance, I had a total military force of 50 million, with 45 million as reserve troops. It was totally possible with my enormous size. I would argue for an improved population system, though. How can one compete with a nation of 20 billion?

I simply don't RP with nations who use their unrealistically huge population for RP or I urge them to use a separate and lower RP population.

Then one could make the argument that 'in some cases it's fine because some nations' game population is realistic!'

But it's not because the game population goes up 5-6 million every day (1 million per day if your game population is under 25 million or so), which is extremely unrealistic.

I think that NS could use a better population system. Obviously existing nations can keep their current population, but from that point on, it would grow realistically instead of 'lolz 15 million new citizensaday!!!!!!'

[District XIV]

I simply don't RP with nations who use their unrealistically huge population for RP or I urge them to use a separate and lower RP population.

Then one could make the argument that 'in some cases it's fine because some nations' game population is realistic!'

But it's not because the game population goes up 5-6 million every day (1 million per day if your game population is under 25 million or so), which is extremely unrealistic.

I think that NS could use a better population system. Obviously existing nations can keep their current population, but from that point on, it would grow realistically instead of 'lolz 15 million new citizensaday!!!!!!'

Of course. Would you (and anyone else here) consider using a separate and more realistic population for RP?

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

I think that NS could use a better population system. Obviously existing nations can keep their current population, but from that point on, it would grow realistically instead of 'lolz 15 million new citizensaday!!!!!!'

Of course. Would you (and anyone else here) consider using a separate and more realistic population for RP?

I don't see many other ones that are too unrealistic. Unbelievably huge armies will be considered godmodding.

[District XIV]

Of course. Would you (and anyone else here) consider using a separate and more realistic population for RP?

I don't see many other ones that are too unrealistic. Unbelievably huge armies will be considered godmodding.

Yeah. I believe that you can have a population around the size of China and India or so, but that's only realistic if your nation is the size of said RL countries. Having a nation the size of Moldova and maintaining a population of well over, say, 5 million is very, very unrealistic.

(Moldova has a population of around 3.5 million)

[Valaran]

I think that NS could use a better population system. Obviously existing nations can keep their current population, but from that point on, it would grow realistically instead of 'lolz 15 million new citizensaday!!!!!!'

Of course. Would you (and anyone else here) consider using a separate and more realistic population for RP?

I already do, so yeah

[District XIV]

Of course. Would you (and anyone else here) consider using a separate and more realistic population for RP?

I already do, so yeah

Same. Appoximately over 1.5 billion (my nation's game population) is very infeasible due to its size on the map.

[Valaran]

I already do, so yeah

Same. Appoximately over 1.5 billion (my nation's game population) is very infeasible due to its size on the map.

The trick to that is having more than just the Atlas map

(and colonies, but then I am an Empire)