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Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm**

Eternal Life with God wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:
Cerantia wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:We refuse to lift our ban against the Homophobic, anti-other religion, anti-atheist extremists known as 'Christians'. If you wish to go to war due to your support for this intolerant religion, then so be it. Protests against your nations and Christianity in general are taking place in Sacramento, Bezerkly, and San Franutsco, calling Christians fear mongers, Homophobic, anti-Pro Choice, and against other religions, and for mistreating the environment and women in general.

Cerce Tentones, to the Leader of San Franutsco;

I humbly request not a lifting of this ban, but the release of your Christian prisoners into Cerantia. With these Christians in our borders, and not yours, you will have no one to oppose you. You still have aproximately 2 hours in which to do this before I go to war.

Sincerely,

~Cerce Tentones, Emperor of the Cerantian Millitary Empire.

We will be willing to send the Christian Extremists to your nation.

Thanks a lot, the Protestant Conservative Party needs a few extra votes.

OOC: I'm pretty sure he was reffuring to me.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:16 pm**

Cerantia wrote:
Eternal Life with God wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:
Cerantia wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:We refuse to lift our ban against the Homophobic, anti-other religion, anti-atheist extremists known as 'Christians'. If you wish to go to war due to your support for this intolerant religion, then so be it. Protests against your nations and Christianity in general are taking place in Sacramento, Bezerkly, and San Franutsco, calling Christians fear mongers, Homophobic, anti-Pro Choice, and against other religions, and for mistreating the environment and women in general.

Cerce Tentones, to the Leader of San Franutsco;

I humbly request not a lifting of this ban, but the release of your Christian prisoners into Cerantia. With these Christians in our borders, and not yours, you will have no one to oppose you. You still have aproximately 2 hours in which to do this before I go to war.

Sincerely,

~Cerce Tentones, Emperor of the Cerantian Millitary Empire.

We will be willing to send the Christian Extremists to your nation.

Thanks a lot, the Protestant Conservative Party needs a few extra votes.

OOC: I'm pretty sure he was reffuring to me.

OOC: I see...

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:25 pm**

The Empire of Eizen applauds the efforts of all nations seeking to reduce religious impact in their countries, but warns that bans on specific religions do not go far enough, a country that rejects all religion is truly free. Free from false teachings, charismatic swindlers, and anti-intellectual ideology.

"Civilization will not attain to its perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priest."

-Émile Zola

Emile Zola, the King of Atlanthea sends you his highest regards. Religion is the root of all evil ( not God). You deserve a Nobel prize for peace.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:35 pm**

Amystris wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:We refuse to lift our ban against the Homophobic, anti-other religion, anti-atheist extremists known as 'Christians'. If you wish to go to war due to your support for this intolerant religion, then so be it. Protests against your nations and Christianity in general are taking place in Sacramento, Bezerkly, and San Franutsco, calling Christians fear mongers, Homophobic, anti-Pro Choice, and against other religions, and for mistreating the environment and women in general.

You call us Fear Mongers, yet we have pledged to help you against Ryouse. You call us Homophobic yet we allow Gay Marriage. You call us Anti-Pro Choice yet....Wait, we don't allow abortion. We also allow freedom of religion and women are very highly respected

Namabia is sending Christian Missionarys.

Something all Islam/Muslims/Jews/Atheist need to know:

1.Christians are Pro Choice
2.Christians have high respect for women, I know my family members that are women that serve the church.
3.Not all Christians are dum idiots like everyone says.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:37 pm**

Namabia wrote:
Amystris wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:We refuse to lift our ban against the Homophobic, anti-other religion, anti-atheist extremists known as 'Christians'. If you wish to go to war due to your support for this intolerant religion, then so be it. Protests against your nations and Christianity in general are taking place in Sacramento, Bezerkly, and San Franutsco, calling Christians fear mongers, Homophobic, anti-Pro Choice, and against other religions, and for mistreating the environment and women in general.

You call us Fear Mongers, yet we have pledged to help you against Ryouse. You call us Homophobic yet we allow Gay Marriage. You call us Anti-Pro Choice yet....Wait, we don't allow abortion. We also allow freedom of religion and women are very highly respected

Namabia is sending Christian Missionarys.

Something all Islam/Muslims/Jews/Atheist need to know:

1.Christians are Pro Choice
2.Christians have high respect for women, I know my family members that are women that serve the church.
3.Not all Christians are dum idiots like everyone says.

^^^^^^^^ hopefully people listen to this

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:38 pm**

Namabia wrote:
Amystris wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:We refuse to lift our ban against the Homophobic, anti-other religion, anti-atheist extremists known as 'Christians'. If you wish to go to war due to your support for this intolerant religion, then so be it. Protests against your nations and Christianity in general are taking place in Sacramento, Bezerkly, and San Franutsco, calling Christians fear mongers, Homophobic, anti-Pro Choice, and against other religions, and for mistreating the environment and women in general.

You call us Fear Mongers, yet we have pledged to help you against Ryouse. You call us Homophobic yet we allow Gay Marriage. You call us Anti-Pro Choice yet....Wait, we don't allow abortion. We also allow freedom of religion and women are very highly respected

Namabia is sending Christian Missionarys.

Something all Islam/Muslims/Jews/Atheist need to know:

1.Christians are Pro Choice
2.Christians have high respect for women, I know my family members that are women that serve the church.
3.Not all Christians are dum idiots like everyone says.

Cerantia, while supporting this movement, warns Namabia that this anti-Christian country may attack these incomming Missionaries. We wish you luck.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:46 pm**

Namabia wrote:
Amystris wrote:
San Franutsco wrote:We refuse to lift our ban against the Homophobic, anti-other religion, anti-atheist extremists known as 'Christians'. If you wish to go to war due to your support for this intolerant religion, then so be it. Protests against your nations and Christianity in general are taking place in Sacramento, Bezerkly, and San Franutsco, calling Christians fear mongers, Homophobic, anti-Pro Choice, and against other religions, and for mistreating the environment and women in general.

You call us Fear Mongers, yet we have pledged to help you against Ryouse. You call us Homophobic yet we allow Gay Marriage. You call us Anti-Pro Choice yet....Wait, we don't allow abortion. We also allow freedom of religion and women are very highly respected

Namabia is sending Christian Missionarys.

Something all Islam/Muslims/Jews/Atheist need to know:

1.Christians are Pro Choice
2.Christians have high respect for women, I know my family members that are women that serve the church.
3.Not all Christians are dum idiots like everyone says.

1. Wrong. The Catholics dont even support birth control. Generally Baptists and methodists are prolife while lutherens and episcipalians tend to be Pro Choice.

2. True Ture

3. Very true.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:47 pm**

Sir, I humbly ask you lift the ban,you have 1 hour to respond before Declartion of war. Thank you.
If you would ban muslims that would also make me happy.

-Fedral Republic of New Zephua

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:50 pm**

New Zepuha wrote:Sir, I humbly ask you lift the ban,you have 1 hour to respond before Declartion of war. Thank you.
If you would ban muslims that would also make me happy.

-Fedral Republic of New Zephua

I haughtilly suggest you dont, the nation is over 20 times larger than you will barely achnowledge your pitiful attempts at war.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:53 pm**

New Zepuha.
Please do not declare war. You will be crushed.
There is a better way to settle this.

King Colopatiron I.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:04 pm**

The Principality of Fredrikshamn has severed all ties with the country of San Franutsco because of its ban of Christianity. However, the Principality opens its borders as a humanitarian gesture to accept all the displaced Christians.

-Otto von Wolfe
Reich Minister of Culture
3rd Margrave of Wolfe

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:36 pm**

New Zepuha wrote:Sir, I humbly ask you lift the ban,you have 1 hour to respond before Declartion of war. Thank you.
If you would ban muslims that would also make me happy.

-Fedral Republic of New Zephua

Cerantia will join in this war attempt if the said Christian hostages are not released in the morning, and, reguardless of our size, we will fight with honor, glory, and power.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:48 pm**

Cerantia wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Sir, I humbly ask you lift the ban,you have 1 hour to respond before Declartion of war. Thank you.
If you would ban muslims that would also make me happy.

-Fedral Republic of New Zephua

Cerantia will join in this war attempt if the said Christian hostages are not released in the morning, and, reguardless of our size, we will fight with honor, glory, and power.

Cerantia withdraws this offer, as new circumstances have nullified our... 'support' of New Zepuha.

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:58 pm**

[OOC: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30925

My response is here.]

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:49 pm**

New Zepuha wrote:Sir, I humbly ask you lift the ban,you have 1 hour to respond before Declartion of war. Thank you.
If you would ban muslims that would also make me happy.

-Fedral Republic of New Zephua

Official Commuque from the Multiple Personas of Seperates

To: The Federal Republic of New Zephura
You and your kind disgust me. Willing to go to war over a petty nations religious intolerance and then turning heel and asking for the ban of another religion. Throwing your weight around like a disgusting obese man asking for liposuction, then turning around and demanding that implants be outlawed after the procedure. Yours is yet another campiagn for religious intolerance. Only worse... seeing as you are a hypocrite as well as intolerant. The only way to solve this is though civilized debate. We find that the situation doesn't call for arms. We highly recommend that you change your position but will not fight for it. I care not for the eventual obileration of something that is not a business venture.

Sincerly,
Lernad Boigenzahn
"Red-Eye"
C.E.O. of Seperates

Posted: **Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:03 am**

Seperates wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Sir, I humbly ask you lift the ban,you have 1 hour to respond before Declartion of war. Thank you.
If you would ban muslims that would also make me happy.

-Fedral Republic of New Zephua

Official Commuque from the Multiple Personas of Seperates

To: The Federal Republic of New Zephura
You and your kind disgust me. Willing to go to war over a petty nations religious intolerance and then turning heel and asking for the ban of another religion. Throwing your weight around like a disgusting obese man asking for liposuction, then turning around and demanding that implants be outlawed after the procedure. Yours is yet another campiagn for religious intolerance. Only worse... seeing as you are a hypocrite as well as intolerant. The only way to solve this is though civilized debate. We find that the situation doesn't call for arms. We highly recommend that you change your position but will not fight for it. I care not for the eventual obileration of something that is not a business venture.

Sincerly,
Lernad Boigenzahn
"Red-Eye"
C.E.O. of Seperates

This matter has been resolved;

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30914&start=275

Posted: **Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:15 am**

In the interest of the protection of the civil rights of the oppressed religious groups, Congress, on behalf of the nation of Pararescue, deems it prudent to enact the following decree:

1. All citizens being oppressed for religious intoleration are welcome within Pararescue.

2. Any act to stop or hinder in any form the free movement of these citizens will be met with military action.

3. Human rights abuses of those choosing to stay in the above nation will be met with military action.

4. The military and intelligence arms of the government of Pararescue will closely observe the above nation for these rights violations.

5. Pararescue does so forth enact an embargo and blockade of trade goods and services against the above nation.

6. The military of Pararescue henceforth and until the situation is resolved is placed on alert status in preparation for a possible invasion.

7. The Pararescue Air Force Special Attack Squadron is ordered to open fire on planes flying supplies into the above nation.

8. The Pararescue Oceanic Navy Surface Battle Group and Submarine Squadron 7 are given orders to fire and sink any commercial or military shipping going into the above country, while protecting from attack all shipping leaving the country with refugees.

9. The Pararescue Coast Guard Rescue Battalion 3 is ordered to the area to area to rescue and return safely to Pararescue's borders any refugee found attempting to escape persecution in the above nation.

Resolved, as the face of history and the lessons taught us by events such as the Holocaust, it becomes the duty of other nations to act when the Government of a stated nation acts in a way tyrannical to its people, or fails to act in the protection of its people. The nation of Pararescue hereby issues condemnation to above stated nation and places the preceding orders into effect, this 1st day of January, Year of Our Lord 2010.

Doc Swanson, President, Pararescue

Posted: **Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:51 am**

Official Verzian Message

To:[Open To all]
From:The President of Verzia, Johan Mondizzia

The nation of Verzia, an ally of Amystris, will support it in full, however, we only go to war to defend a loyal ally, otherwise, we would never got to war over such an issue. I will be attempting to restore peace as fast as possible, in th mean time, Verzia is on high alert, its military is mobilizing, but Verzia is not officially in this war yet.

Regards,

Posted: **Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:58 am**

we dont support banning of any religion. the religion is right of the person

Posted: **Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:15 pm**

Note that this was an attack on Cerantia for Cerantia defending San Franutsco's freedom to ban a country - Cerantia however does not support the hostage taking of anyone, but since the hostage situation has been resolved, Cerantia backs fully the country of San Franutsco.

For any who wish to aid Cerantia, it is more than accepted - and for any who wish to rebuff Parthia for it's actions, click on the "Wrote:" next to my name in the quote.

Cerantia wrote:THE FALL OF CERANTIA (continued
OOC: Yea, sure, it doesn't directly coincide with the proposed events, but I'd like to at least deal some minimul damage.
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23:00 Hours, December 31st
One hour before extermination

Sirens blare throughout Cerantia as a suspected nuclear exchange is to take place. Citizens everywhere look up in confusion as the Tentones Tower begins it's anual New Year's light up. The series of blares continue, signalling a possible nuclear launch. Citizens scramble to the nearest underground facility.

The Naval Forces of the Cerantian Military are signalled to stay off of the coast of New Zepuha.

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23:17 hours, December 31st
43 minutes before extermination

Cerce Tentones and the other main polliticall members, allong with a sizeable population, are rushed to Sarka (a joint city controlled by Atlamar and Cerantia) and goes into hiding underground - this would normally be considered weakness, but is currently considered preservation of Cerantian legacy, therefore preserving our Glory and Honor.

Silos around Cerantia prepare to launch, the CME Ground Forces begin marching twords the enemy, with 3.2 million troops (coupled with 2.5 million from Atlamar, and the tanks numbere roughly 1 million in both of the Sarkomian Alliance's nations).

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23:34 hours, December 31st
26 minutes before extermination

7.9 Million Cerantians are either in bomb shelters or out at sea to avoid potential Nukes. Cerce Tentones prepairs a recording that was undisclosed at this time. Cerce Tentones requests that Atlamar takes control of Cerantia should the Emperor not live through the Nuclear exchange, if indeed there is one.

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23:52 hours, December 31st
8 minutes before extermination

Orbital launch of missiles is detected, the 4 ICBMs and the Cruise Missiles are prept for launch.

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23:59 hours, December 31st
1 minute before extermination

The first nukes reach the silos before the assorted missiles from Cerantia could be succesfully launched. However, only 20 of the 100 Cerantian submarines are destroyed due to the fact that 80 of the Subs were not yet at the base and were still off the coast of New Zepuha, as ordered. 10 Cruise Missiles from those submarines are launched at the 5 largest ground-based Military structures.

Cerce Tentones plays the recorderd message and sets it to replay after finishing:
To my people of the Cerantian Millitary Empire; You are frightened and scared, if I am to interperate the everyday citizen's response to a nuclear exchange. You are oviously mad at the Parthians for this, as I know I am. You may be questioning wether or not I am fit to rule with my decision to threaten a larger nation such as Parthia - you have every right to this, and may impeach me at your leigure - but now we are at war, in a war against a nation I know we cannot win against. But actions have been done, and we must now all pay the consequences. Atlamar has promised us their humanitarian support, if we survive this.

To the listeners of this message that may not be a Cerantian citizen, you are now looking at the tyrany of Parthia. We ask that, should we not be able to do so, you dish out proper judgement on Parthia for attacking a nation that was only defending a country that has been rendered indefencive. Parthia is a country guilty of war crimes and genocide. If any are listening to this, we have fallen victom to both - and Parthia needs to be punished accordingly.

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0:00, 1st of January
0 minutes untill extermination

Nuclear missiles land all over Cerantia - older bomb shelters callapse killing countless thousands - ships not yet out of range are demolished - and citizens ranging from elderly to children are engulfed in a uranium-charged blast. Thankfully, due to the Cracion Peaks that border Atlamar and Cerantia, Atlamar is completely unaffected by the nuclear blasts - except, of course, the near-loss of it's ally. Only 3.4 million Cerantians still survive compared to the original 16 million. Much of the Navy and Military still survives because they were deployed before the nukes were launched, however only about 10% of the air force remains.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:14 am**

Namabia wrote:Something all Islam/Muslims/Jews/Atheist need to know:

1.Christians are Pro Choice
2.Christians have high respect for women, I know my family members that are women that serve the church.
3.Not all Christians are dum idiots like everyone says.

1- We would remind you as other nations have about the Catholic stance on birth control, and let us not forget the Christian Conservative movement that champions the pro-life movement in the nation known as "United States of America". While some Christians are pro-Choice that remains a very dividing issue.

2- According to the Southern Baptist convention, women must submit to the servant leadership of their husbands. A support network exists for women abused by Catholic priests. As with your #1 while many Christians are respuctful to women and some denominations have a great deal of equality this is not universal.

3- By mispelling the word "dumb" you do little to help your case.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:45 pm**

Assistan Wasteland wrote:
Namabia wrote:Something all Islam/Muslims/Jews/Atheist need to know:

1.Christians are Pro Choice
2.Christians have high respect for women, I know my family members that are women that serve the church.
3.Not all Christians are dum idiots like everyone says.

1- We would remind you as other nations have about the Catholic stance on birth control, and let us not forget the Christian Conservative movement that champions the pro-life movement in the nation known as "United States of America". While some Christians are pro-Choice that remains a very dividing issue.

2- According to the Southern Baptist convention, women must submit to the servant leadership of their husbands. A support network exists for women abused by Catholic priests. As with your #1 while many Christians are respuctful to women and some denominations have a great deal of equality this is not universal.

3- By mispelling the word "dumb" you do little to help your case.

Everyone messes up. Sheesh you atheist and agnostics are very very picky. Lighten up.
1. Ok
2. Every woman I know that goes to Church serves the Church. I know one that is head of the Children's Church and Children Ministry. Where are you gettin that from? Every church in my town respects women as far as I am concerned.
3.By being a picker you tell me that you have nothing better to do then point that out(but thankyou anyways.)

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:57 pm**

OOC: I would suggest y'all take this to general. I mean, you're just cluttering up this thread with, um, generalness.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:34 pm**

Namabia wrote:2. Every woman I know that goes to Church serves the Church. I know one that is head of the Children's Church and Children Ministry. Where are you gettin that from? Every church in my town respects women as far as I am concerned.

I'm talking about Southern Baptists, while they try to include women, they are very strict in their interpretation of scripture that places them as subordinate to men. While their actions are looked down upon by other Christian denominations, they are the largest Protestant Denomination

3.By being a picker you tell me that you have nothing better to do then point that out(but thankyou anyways.)

This wasn't just a nitpick, you mispelled the word "dumb" while claiming Christians aren't idiots. You are either too dense to see the sheer irony of what you just said your you're deflecting the comment off hand out of shame.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:39 pm**

San Franutsco wrote:Earlier today, the San Franutscan Congress has unanimously voted to officially ban Christianity, citing the recent surge of bans of Islam and Judaism being the reason behind the bill. As of now, Christians everywhere are being arrested and deported out of the nation, churches torn down, bibles confiscated, burned, thrown in the toilet, etc, and crosses torn down.

OOC: First off to Alien Space Bats rude posting at the beginning of this thread. I really honestly don't know where to start. I'll just sum it all up by saying you have no business attempting to dictate what individual sovereign nations can or cannot do. If he wants to banish a religion, thats his right just as it is yours. Your post reeks of a base arrogance that really is befuddling to me, and I don't mean that in a rude or disrespectful way, it just really is confusing to me the way in which some people act on these forums. With that said, I'm switching to in character now.

IC: The recent developments of San Franutsco banning a religion is unfortunate. Sacrumsia will continue to maintain diplomatic relations with San Franutsco, but we wish to emphasize that this course of direction is one that can only in the long run hurt relations between our two countries. We ask the leadership to reconsider their actions and to think about their foreign relations in a more positive light before making reckless domestic decisions.

NationStates

Christianity Is Banned!

I oppose