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Postby Neu Engollon » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:40 am

Riysa wrote:Riysa would be suffering internal strife that would eventually lead to a civil war and complete collapse of the former government, Ottoman Empire-style. It would attempt to get involved in GAW in order to project some semblance of stability, but regardless of what happens, it will collapse.


They would be aligned with the Northern Powers, correct? I think that's what you said before.
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Postby Riysa » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:51 am

Neu Engollon wrote:
Riysa wrote:Riysa would be suffering internal strife that would eventually lead to a civil war and complete collapse of the former government, Ottoman Empire-style. It would attempt to get involved in GAW in order to project some semblance of stability, but regardless of what happens, it will collapse.


They would be aligned with the Northern Powers, correct? I think that's what you said before.


Correct. If the NP wins, then the conflict would have overtaxed the fragile economy, leading to collapse. If they lose, then obviously, civil war and disintegration of Riysa into a number of independent states.

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Postby Arglant » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:32 pm

Vedrian Expeditionary Forces would probs be fighting alongside Aquitaynian guys, wherever they go...

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Postby Aquitayne » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:34 pm

Arglant wrote:Vedrian Expeditionary Forces would probs be fighting alongside Aquitaynian guys, wherever they go...


I thought we were having your war of independence?
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Postby Arglant » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:37 pm

Yeah, but the independance is a direct cause of so many soldiers dying...

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Postby Aquitayne » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:46 pm

Aquitayne, towards the middle parts and later bits of the war, will be fighting for control over a colonial province of Vedria (this will require some MT tweaking, but not a big deal).

Aquitayne will also be supporting Glislandia against its fight against BC behind the scenes, and Aquitayne's Foreign Legion will also be formed during the war. I need to speak with BC to finalize/remember some other details, but that's the gist so far.
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Postby Nikolia » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:07 pm

Ok, here's what i've thought.

Noordenstaat and Fhiongair are going be in the Empire before GAW1. During the GAW1, large NP influence rises in Fhiongair and northern parts of Noordenstaat, so they eventually start civil war. They start pirate activities in the seas to cripple the delivery of troops and ammo to Nikolian troops in Noordenstaat and they eventually kidnap a vessel from the third party (Possibly Haguenau) that gets dragged into a war.
Eventually after the war, Noordenstaat gets separated into Nikolian South and liberated North (sort of like postwar Germany). They unite in GAW2. Thoughts?

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So, ViZion had a bit of an extensive military reach at that time... indeed, until its more recent history in the greater context of time. So I will be seeing how that plays into this. ViZion wasn't always a mind-our-own-business, economy-first nation after all.
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Postby Yellow Star Republic » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:06 pm

Aquitayne wrote:Aquitayne, towards the middle parts and later bits of the war, will be fighting for control over a colonial province of Vedria (this will require some MT tweaking, but not a big deal).

Aquitayne will also be supporting Glislandia against its fight against BC behind the scenes, and Aquitayne's Foreign Legion will also be formed during the war. I need to speak with BC to finalize/remember some other details, but that's the gist so far.


BC and Glisandia will be on the same side. I think you meant Yellosia/YSR. We're actually good guys this time, up to a point.
We're on the side of the Western Powers, but deep in the heart of Northern Powers country.
Much like Russia in 1917, the Konungur will be deposed and the Marxists will take over and pull Yellosia out of the war, after much rebellion and civil strife. Lunyuk (Lenin) is the main instigator that makes this happen.
Ironically, Glisandia are the bad guys back in the day, and that may even carry over to GAW2, too.
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Postby Arglant » Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:06 pm

During the first Great Astyrian War, Vedrian troops fought in the Blackhelm Confederacy along with their colonial overlords. As the causualties went up, and the demands for new troops kept growing, discontent with Aquitayne rose.

Finally, in 1923, it came to a boiling point. The people demanded an end to the war, and when they could not get it, they declared their independance. Soon after they declared their independance, the Governor, James Rendower was crowned King of Vedria.

All Aquitaynian Military presence was soon eradicated. A new military was formed, and equipment from the Vedrian-Aquitaynian forces were integrated into the now force. To help them prepare for their fight, advisors and instructors from the Confederacy arrived. They soon began fighting their former overlords for their independance.

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Postby Neu Engollon » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:31 pm

Arglant wrote:During the first Great Astyrian War, Vedrian troops fought in the Blackhelm Confederacy along with their colonial overlords. As the causualties went up, and the demands for new troops kept growing, discontent with Aquitayne rose.

Finally, in 1923, it came to a boiling point. The people demanded an end to the war, and when they could not get it, they declared their independance. Soon after they declared their independance, the Governor, James Rendower was crowned King of Vedria.

All Aquitaynian Military presence was soon eradicated. A new military was formed, and equipment from the Vedrian-Aquitaynian forces were integrated into the now force. To help them prepare for their fight, advisors and instructors from the Confederacy arrived. They soon began fighting their former overlords for their independance.


Thanks. That helps. I know you vaguely hinted at it in this thread about a month ago, but this is very helpful in figuring out more canon.
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Postby Woodstead » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:30 pm

Okay, so I've sorted out what I should do. The Erlenic Empire (modern day CZ, Woodstead, Nyasott, and Libetta) will be neutral from the beginning; it is most likely that there will be neutrality throughout, though a development in IC may provoke something more: even something as small as harbouring a safe haven for certain alliances and powers. Either way, I do expect to at least contribute news articles and maybe anxious letters from the government given the placement of the Empire's land and sparsity.
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Postby Riysa » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:46 pm

Wait, please fill me in - did the alliances already form by now?

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Postby Neu Engollon » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:55 pm

Riysa wrote:Wait, please fill me in - did the alliances already form by now?


Not fully, ICly.
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Postby Riysa » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:58 pm

Neu Engollon wrote:
Riysa wrote:Wait, please fill me in - did the alliances already form by now?


Not fully, ICly.


Ah alright, I'm working on an intro post right now and wanted to see whether I should declare my entry into something or not.

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Postby Neu Engollon » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:06 pm

Riysa wrote:
Neu Engollon wrote:
Not fully, ICly.


Ah alright, I'm working on an intro post right now and wanted to see whether I should declare my entry into something or not.


You could. That is entirely up to you.
Sorry, my earlier reply was from work on my crappy old ipod. So anyway, there is the basics of alliances, but there are still a lot of neutrals at the point we're at which is approximately Fall 1920, depending on the nation and posts, side plots, etc.

Gaul and Haguenau have the Gaulic League, basically a Francophone national league, including colonies.
Gaul also has an alliance with Yellosia (old time YSR) and very friendly relations with Nikolia and Aquitayne.
Glisandia and Nouvel Ecosse have an alliance and friendly relations with several other potential Northern Powers countries like the Exponential Empire (Blackhelm Confederacy), Andamonia and a few others, as well as major influence in Noordenstaat, a major thorn in the side of Nikolia.
Glisandia has Romberg as a colony and will be utilizing Rombergian troops.

We have seen the opening shots of Glisandia going ahead and starting a war with Yellosia, with not much provocation, other than the Duke hates his cousin, the Koningur of Yellosia...but underlying that is centuries of conflict and territorial claims. Ecossian troops will move through Adler and hit Northern Yellosia in solidarity with Glisandia.

Gaul is mobilizing troops to come to the aid of their ally in Northern Lorecia, including colonial troops in Dachine, Cote d' Cuivre and Kamalbia. Eventually, soon, we will see the Noordenstaatians start privateering and taking over or raiding vessels off their shore, Nikolian, Gaulic and Haguenois, among others. This will drag the Gaulic League into the war on two fronts.

Yellosia will eventually pull out of the war after a couple years as Marxist revolutionaries topple the monarchy and chaos will ensue there. They will make a separate peace with the Northern Powers. (Yes, exactly like Russia did.)

Oh, and Andamonia and Trellin are about to come to blows over the ports, I think.

The rest I'm not sure about as the situation has changed a bit.
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Postby Trellin » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:14 am

Trophy Wars are the '30s. Trellin's just glowering quietly in the corner for this whole decade. Arimathea, however, is definitely going to be provoking a few incidents with Andamonia, and then Andamonia will invade Txekrikar and Arimathea will declare war to defend an ally of the Trellinese Empire.

Arimathea also has an old alliance with GH, dating back to the Napoleonic Wars.
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Postby Neu Engollon » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:36 pm

Trellin wrote:Trophy Wars are the '30s. Trellin's just glowering quietly in the corner for this whole decade. Arimathea, however, is definitely going to be provoking a few incidents with Andamonia, and then Andamonia will invade Txekrikar and Arimathea will declare war to defend an ally of the Trellinese Empire.

Arimathea also has an old alliance with GH, dating back to the Napoleonic Wars.


Sorry, I keep mixing them up. I meant Arimathea, not Trellin.
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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:07 pm

Scottopian Isles wrote:
Empire of Symphonia wrote:Lol, so much stuff. I have no clue where to add myself in.


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Postby Arglant » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:17 pm

Would Gaul be interested in an alliance with Vedria after it breaks away from Aquitayne?

This question kinda is pointed to anyone that would kinda be classified as the Entente/Allies in RL

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Postby Nikolia » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:30 pm

Nikolia wrote:Ok, here's what i've thought.

Noordenstaat and Fhiongair are going be in the Empire before GAW1. During the GAW1, large NP influence rises in Fhiongair and northern parts of Noordenstaat, so they eventually start civil war. They start pirate activities in the seas to cripple the delivery of troops and ammo to Nikolian troops in Noordenstaat and they eventually kidnap a vessel from the third party (Possibly Haguenau) that gets dragged into a war.
Eventually after the war, Noordenstaat gets separated into Nikolian South and liberated North (sort of like postwar Germany). They unite in GAW2. Thoughts?


Kinda adding up to this. Fhiongair will turn Communist (see that as the October revolution). Basically the commies will march to the Ducal palace and overthrow him and install new, commie government. The communists will spread to Noordenstaat too, where they'll organise mass protests against the Nikolian colonial government, which will eventually led to a civil war between Commies and Nikolian supporters (Nikolian colonial troops.) In order to cripple the colonial troops, the commies will start pirate operations in the Putin strait (the strait between Nikolia and Noord) where they'll attack and capture Nikolian ships delivering arms and men to Noordenstaat. Of course, the help from the mainland will be late, because the Tsar had a secret agreement with commies prior to the civil war. The people in mainland started to rally against the Tsars actions (He was not liked anyways) and eventually they storm in the Imperial palace, arrest the Tsar, change the nation to Kingdom and install a new King from Petrov family, which supported the "rebels". After the "switch", the new King starts sending more troops to Noordenstaat, but now he hires more ships of the Navy to protect the sea corridor. As Commies started advancing fast towards the south, they reached the capital of Noordenstaat and even a small pocket of them reached close to Haguenavian border, which also pulled them into the war. With the help of the Gaullic league, Nikolia pushes the commies back to Fhiongair, which remains communist and independent.

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Postby Lexmark » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:52 am

Tagging this for participation as a member of the Western Powers and Gaulic League.

At the time of the war, the Seraphic Empire of Cassonne has been involved in the Gaulic League for almost a decade, and is still in control of a fruitful colonial empire. However, fears of being considered a second-tier power in Astyria, along with a passionate desire to prove the strength of their membership in the Gaulic League, leads Cassonne to make a major investment in the war, which will ultimately spark the decline of the Empire after the war due to the tremendous debts racked up. The only guaranteed colonial possession of the Seraphic Empire at this time is Valle Crucis, but I'm working with some people to expand it.
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Postby Neu Engollon » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:51 am

Lexmark wrote:Tagging this for participation as a member of the Western Powers and Gaulic League.

At the time of the war, the Seraphic Empire of Cassonne has been involved in the Gaulic League for almost a decade, and is still in control of a fruitful colonial empire. However, fears of being considered a second-tier power in Astyria, along with a passionate desire to prove the strength of their membership in the Gaulic League, leads Cassonne to make a major investment in the war, which will ultimately spark the decline of the Empire after the war due to the tremendous debts racked up. The only guaranteed colonial possession of the Seraphic Empire at this time is Valle Crucis, but I'm working with some people to expand it.


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