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Postby Dhammonia » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:30 pm

:-)

It's just a game and let's be quite clear: NS is totally lacking the basis for roleplay.
I like roleplay in general but i never quite understood why people try to do it with NS accs.
Heck, the missing "core information" as one needs it in games like D&D isn't available at all here, making a "we have 2 million supersoldiers, ultra-mega trained, equal in skill and efficency to 50million soldiers of your country. we know because our spies got the information about your army." very easy.
Just accept NS as some trollcave instead of rp-place and you'll be fine :-)

If you don't want to, i strongly suggest starting to work on some rulebook to prevent "annoying" things just like that.

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Postby Amazonian Beasts » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:38 pm

Dhammonia wrote::-)

It's just a game and let's be quite clear: NS is totally lacking the basis for roleplay.
I like roleplay in general but i never quite understood why people try to do it with NS accs.
Heck, the missing "core information" as one needs it in games like D&D isn't available at all here, making a "we have 2 million supersoldiers, ultra-mega trained, equal in skill and efficency to 50million soldiers of your country. we know because our spies got the information about your army." very easy.
Just accept NS as some trollcave instead of rp-place and you'll be fine :-)

If you don't want to, i strongly suggest starting to work on some rulebook to prevent "annoying" things just like that.


That's a pretty pessimistic view.

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Postby Malikov » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:06 pm

William Germania wrote:Signed, William Germania

I am only a day old, but I can understand what you mean.

No, you have no idea what these people mean Youngia. You're one of the people that is degrading the level of RPing within II. When will you understand... that WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!!
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Postby Ozymos » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:11 pm

Malikov wrote:
William Germania wrote:Signed, William Germania

I am only a day old, but I can understand what you mean.

No, you have no idea what these people mean Youngia. You're one of the people that is degrading the level of RPing within II. When will you understand... that WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!!


Mal, not everyone new here is a Youngia clone ;)

Also, I would like to second Leis's note about stickies. There definetly has to be some way of making them "mandatory reading" for all nations coming on here for the first time.

I'm not sure about II being beyond dying, or even dying to be honest. Pardon my french, but amongst the sea of crap, there are still a fair number of decent RPs floating around. And, even if it's only 1 in every 10, a good new RPer emerges every now and then. The other 9 either get bored of being told they're wrong and fade away (or get DEATed) or they learn to adapt, and become good RPers.

But unfortunely, I am well aware of the differences between this and the old II, so i'm afraid this has to be done:

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Malikov
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Postby Malikov » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:18 pm

Ozy, take a look at the bottom of page one please.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=29924&start=0
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Postby Ozymos » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:20 pm

Malikov wrote:Ozy, take a look at the bottom of page one please.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=29924&start=0


:palm:

Well, this is the sort of thing that i'm talking about - 9 of 10 bad RPers are probably controlled by him
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Postby Malikov » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:22 pm

Ozymos wrote:
Malikov wrote:Ozy, take a look at the bottom of page one please.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=29924&start=0


:palm:

Well, this is the sort of thing that i'm talking about - 9 of 10 bad RPers are probably controlled by him

Doubtful. he's a DoS (as almost everyone knows) so a quick Mod sweep for the IP range he uses would eliminate any unwanted Youngian's.
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Postby Akimonad » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:23 pm

Ozymos wrote:Well, this is the sort of thing that i'm talking about - 9 of 10 bad RPers are probably controlled by him


Whenever I read your posts in italics, my eyes hurt. Please stop. It's unnecessary. If you want to look cool, wear a top hat and get a cane.
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Ozymos
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Postby Ozymos » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:24 pm

Malikov wrote:Doubtful. he's a DoS (as almost everyone knows) so a quick Mod sweep for the IP range he uses would eliminate any unwanted Youngian's.


Yes, I was aware of his Shoot/Beat/Delete on Sight status.

Akimonad wrote:Whenever I read your posts in italics, my eyes hurt. Please stop. It's unnecessary. If you want to look cool, wear a top hat and get a cane.


Jeez, fine. It's not about "cool". I just preffered it, is all.
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Postby Amazonian Beasts » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:48 pm

Akimonad wrote:
Ozymos wrote:Well, this is the sort of thing that i'm talking about - 9 of 10 bad RPers are probably controlled by him


Whenever I read your posts in italics, my eyes hurt. Please stop. It's unnecessary. If you want to look cool, wear a top hat and get a cane.


Actually, it's cooler just to write in batshit form.


Malk: Banning an IP range could unintentionally ban some others who have similar IPs. That's a little risky, even for a royal pain in the ass.
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Postby Thrashia » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:12 pm

Amazonian Beasts wrote:
Akimonad wrote:
Ozymos wrote:Well, this is the sort of thing that i'm talking about - 9 of 10 bad RPers are probably controlled by him


Whenever I read your posts in italics, my eyes hurt. Please stop. It's unnecessary. If you want to look cool, wear a top hat and get a cane.


Actually, it's cooler just to write in batshit form.



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Postby Brewdomia » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:13 pm

Akimonad wrote:
Ozymos wrote:Well, this is the sort of thing that i'm talking about - 9 of 10 bad RPers are probably controlled by him


Whenever I read your posts in italics, my eyes hurt. Please stop. It's unnecessary. If you want to look cool, wear a top hat and get a cane.


How does Italics hurt?

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Postby Malikov » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:58 pm

Amazonian Beasts wrote:[snip]
Malk: Banning an IP range could unintentionally ban some others who have similar IPs. That's a little risky, even for a royal pain in the ass.

Which is why i said scan, not ban. The Mods would individually identify the nations within Youngia's range that are controlled by him, and dole out swift DEAT-ations. THe identifying would vbe pretty easy, as Youngia's posting manner is extremely... unique... and by that I mean annoying, terrible, poor, and... well, you know.

(P.S. It's Malikov, not Malk. I don't like people misspelling my name. Youngia has had a very bad habit of doing that, continually calling me Malivov.)
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Postby Amazonian Beasts » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:16 pm

Malikov wrote:
Amazonian Beasts wrote:[snip]
Malk: Banning an IP range could unintentionally ban some others who have similar IPs. That's a little risky, even for a royal pain in the ass.

Which is why i said scan, not ban. The Mods would individually identify the nations within Youngia's range that are controlled by him, and dole out swift DEAT-ations. THe identifying would vbe pretty easy, as Youngia's posting manner is extremely... unique... and by that I mean annoying, terrible, poor, and... well, you know.

(P.S. It's Malikov, not Malk. I don't like people misspelling my name. Youngia has had a very bad habit of doing that, continually calling me Malivov.)


So...um...why do you RP with him? Just ignore him and he'll eventually leave you alone when he gets bored. No one likes being blatantly ignored.
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Postby The Great Lord Tiger » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:26 pm

Dhammonia wrote::-)

It's just a game and let's be quite clear: NS is totally lacking the basis for roleplay.
I like roleplay in general but i never quite understood why people try to do it with NS accs.
Heck, the missing "core information" as one needs it in games like D&D isn't available at all here, making a "we have 2 million supersoldiers, ultra-mega trained, equal in skill and efficency to 50million soldiers of your country. we know because our spies got the information about your army." very easy.
Just accept NS as some trollcave instead of rp-place and you'll be fine :-)

If you don't want to, i strongly suggest starting to work on some rulebook to prevent "annoying" things just like that.


Because, you know, we don't have any sort of rules or regulations already...

The problem is formalizing things too much. When you do that, then everyone is more concerned about making sure they have exactly the number of soldiers or tanks that they're 'allowed' to have, and the narrative element departs.
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Postby Malikov » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:54 pm

Amazonian Beasts wrote:So...um...why do you RP with him? Just ignore him and he'll eventually leave you alone when he gets bored. No one likes being blatantly ignored.

We don't. He's an annoying little pest that spams the forums, and lures new plarers into RP's where he wanks every rule, and forces newer players to accept it (because they're newbies they don't know better). I hate the little ass because he's made ludicrous claims about invading my nation, killing off my leader and her family multiple times, and i'm not going to take that shit from anyone. Now when I get wind of him I nuke his little backwater nation into a crater. It gives me a perverse pleasure, having him know that he's so hated by me.
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Postby Estovokiat » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:03 pm

lol Malivov

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Postby Taledonia » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:15 pm

Anyone here remember Seaquest? Ah, what a time; a time luckily spent squabbling with my own people on our own forums. But still, I.I survived him. But more to the point, while I support better RPing, to sign my name now would make it appear that I'm a mere slave to fashion.

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Postby Malikov » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:33 pm

Estovokiat wrote:lol Malivov

If you hadn't been created on the 19th I'd be suspicious of you being Youngia. Little monster has me so paranoid...
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Postby Estovokiat » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:41 pm

Malikov wrote:
Estovokiat wrote:lol Malivov

If you hadn't been created on the 19th I'd be suspicious of you being Youngia. Little monster has me so paranoid...


Lol im not youngia, ive been around in the jolt forums

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Postby Amazonian Beasts » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:20 pm

Taledonia wrote:Anyone here remember Seaquest? Ah, what a time; a time luckily spent squabbling with my own people on our own forums. But still, I.I survived him. But more to the point, while I support better RPing, to sign my name now would make it appear that I'm a mere slave to fashion.


AH WHY DID YOU BRING HIM UP.

I wasn't here for the entire time of SeaQuest, but I do remember some of him. Enough of him.
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Postby Ewa beach » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:22 pm

Malikov wrote:
Amazonian Beasts wrote:So...um...why do you RP with him? Just ignore him and he'll eventually leave you alone when he gets bored. No one likes being blatantly ignored.

We don't. He's an annoying little pest that spams the forums, and lures new plarers into RP's where he wanks every rule, and forces newer players to accept it (because they're newbies they don't know better). I hate the little ass because he's made ludicrous claims about invading my nation, killing off my leader and her family multiple times, and i'm not going to take that shit from anyone. Now when I get wind of him I nuke his little backwater nation into a crater. It gives me a perverse pleasure, having him know that he's so hated by me.

I agree with Malikov. We've found four of his puppets in the past 2 days. All DEATed now. So thanks to us, the forums are a better place.
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Postby Amazonian Beasts » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:27 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Malikov wrote:
Amazonian Beasts wrote:So...um...why do you RP with him? Just ignore him and he'll eventually leave you alone when he gets bored. No one likes being blatantly ignored.

We don't. He's an annoying little pest that spams the forums, and lures new plarers into RP's where he wanks every rule, and forces newer players to accept it (because they're newbies they don't know better). I hate the little ass because he's made ludicrous claims about invading my nation, killing off my leader and her family multiple times, and i'm not going to take that shit from anyone. Now when I get wind of him I nuke his little backwater nation into a crater. It gives me a perverse pleasure, having him know that he's so hated by me.

I agree with Malikov. We've found four of his puppets in the past 2 days. All DEATed now. So thanks to us, the forums are a better place.


Yea, I found the topic in moderation about him...seems like we could do an interesting case study on psychology about his little habit.

Regardless, he's gone for the moment so no worries temporarily.
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Postby Gc1mak » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:30 pm

I feel lucky to be dragged out of the noob stream, I almost became a noob, but luckily the Auctland thread died, and then Amazonian Beast's thread forced me to write a paragraph instead of the one-liner I preferred at that time. Thank you :)

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Postby Amazonian Beasts » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:37 pm

Gc1mak wrote:I feel lucky to be dragged out of the noob stream, I almost became a noob, but luckily the Auctland thread died, and then Amazonian Beast's thread forced me to write a paragraph instead of the one-liner I preferred at that time. Thank you :)


Yea...my bad for ending that a while back, I kinda went on a hiatus there for a while...
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