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Realistic Vietnam war (IC)

Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:24 pm

The Vietnam war demonstrated the capabilities of commanders to fight under different conditions, with the new helicopter being used as a weapons and either using or countering guerrilla warfare and insurgency.

The following is the map to be used in the RP. Yes I realize Khe Sanh wasn't an island but it helps the RP.

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(HD version can be found here: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125 ... heSanh.jpg )

Rules:
No more than five nations per side (Redfor vs Bluefor)
No weapons of mass destruction (Biological, chemical or nuclear. Exceptions may be made in EXTREME circumstances but ask first.)
Military strength must not exceed one regiment/brigade (Approx. 3-5 thousand or 3-8 battalions)
Deception, traps, ambushes and political intrigue are allowed so long as moderation and realism is thought of first
ALL Bluefor troops must base themselves at Khe Sanh airfield or they cannot receive supplies and logistic support.
ALL Redfor troops live off the land and enemy logistics, they gain forces slower but can recuperate anywhere on the map.
Bluefor must hold Khe Sanh AND force Redfor to surrender
Redfor must take Khen Sanh OR force Bluefor to surrender
Choose a branch, Marines, Mechanized, Armoured, Motorized, Air Force, Air Cavalry, Airborne etc.
ALL Military forces must be divided into Brigades/Regiments, Battalions and Companies using the following key:

Brigade/Regiment = 4 battalions
Battalion = 6 companies
Company = 4 platoons
platoon = 25 people

All players must have first been accepted on the OOC thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=291774

Gameplay mechanics:

Blufor ground forces can only regain strength by moving them into khe Sanh Combat Base. Supplies, replenishment and munitions can only be done by Blufor by holding units inside Khe Sanh or specifically ordering a logistics force to resupply the unit.

Redfor ground forces gain strength much slower but can gain troops anywhere on the map except within Blufor owned regions. Supplies, replenishment and munitions can be given to Redfor troops faster by specifically ordering a logistic force to resupply the unit.

Winning hearts and minds of the civilians in towns and farms greatly affects the rate of Redfor reinforcements. Air support, artillery, mortars and any other kind of fire support near towns will damage relationships with civilians in the immediate area and make them enemies of Blufor and more likely to either resupply Redfor or take up arms themselves.

Manipulation of the local population as soldiers, spies, logistics personnel or in any other way is allowed.

Blufor troops lose combat effectiveness the longer they are out in the field without direct supply lines or without returning to Khe Sanh.

In summary: Blufor and Redfor must fight to win the civilian hearts and minds, Blufor regain supplies faster but need direct supply lines. Redfor always gain supplies from the land but can benefit from direct supply lines, they will never be able to match Blufor supply systems though.

REMEMBER: If you can explain something with words, try explaining by editing the map in MS paint or anther image editor and show off where troops are with pictures and pretty colours!
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Postby Sharko Federation » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:04 pm

Lang Vei, Vietnam 1960, 1st January, 7AM.....

The war in Vietnam had just started a few years ago and the battle was still going on.
The NVA 33rd Regiment had retreated from South Vietnam at the very start of the war, leaving the 33rd Regiment to capture Lang Vei. Lang Vei was one of the most valuable tows to the NVA and it was their only town. 5 T-55 tanks strolled over the horizon, driving back to Lang Vei from a scouting mission not far from Lang Vei. The 33rd Regiment has 4 battalions, the first one being INVAR1, INVAR2, INVAR3 and INVAR4. They Were All Stationed In Lang Vei. In One Of The Platoons, Was Nyen Gyet Ho, A Sargent In The 33rd Battalion. Nyen Was Resting On A Porch Of An Abandoned House, When Someone Approached Him.

"Nyen Gyet Ho?" Asked The Man.
Nyen Looked Up Only To See The Commander Of The NVA 33rd Regiment, Lai Vey Lanh.

"Yes Sir!" Said Nyen Firmly, Saluting To His Supreme Commander.

"Good, Mister Nyen, Follow Me...." Said Lai Vey, Signalling Him To Follow Him Into A
Trench. Without A Word, Nyen Followed Him Into The Lang Vei Trench. Inside, Lai Vey Took A Map Of Khe Sanh.

"So Sir, What Do I Have To Do?" Asked Nyen.

"Well, Your Squad Is Supposed To Do A Recon Mission Near The Khe Sanh Combat Base Over There." He Said In Response.

"You Will Go Out Today Night, And Make Sure You Don't Get Spotted." Added Lai Vey.

"Yes Sir!" Nyen Shouted Back.

Nyen Then Went Out Of Lai Vey's Office, Thinking About The Operation He Was Going To a Commence That Night....
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Postby Vivoe » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:39 pm

Lang Vei, Vietnam 1960, 1st January, 6AM

The Royal Australian Regiment were the first Blufor troops to arrive at Khe Sanh combat base, coming in by C130 transport they brought with them 3 infantry battalions and a support battalion. Huey choppers, a battery of 105mm howitzers, M113 APCs, a company of Centurion tanks, 82mm mortar teams and converted Huey 'Bushranger' gunships made up the 4th battalion in a support and mobility role to aid the other 3 battalions at all times.

With the Combat Base almost completely exposed at this time it was imperative tat defensive positions be built up as fast as possible. 2 and 3 RAR were tasked with the immediate construction of strong points across the airfield, to be armed with prepared emplacements, barbed wire, MG nests and mine fields on the approaches it would take time but eventually be constructed.

1960, 1st January, 7AM

1 RAR prepared themselves for immediate patrols to branch out in five directions to secure the immediate area around Khe Sanh. Five of the six companies would be mobilized, leaving the headquarter company back at base to assist with renovations and constructions of the combat capabilities of the base. Most importantly was setting up the mortar and howitzer emplacements so fire support could come online ASAP.

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(Crossed circles are strongpoints, arrows and troop movements, each arrow is one company of soldiers.)
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Postby Novicius Imperium Romanum » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:00 pm

Lang Vei, Vietnam
1960
January 1st
0800 hours


The 7th began to arrive by air approximately two hours after the Australian forces did, arriving by C-130 transports just like they had. The mechanized unit, consisting of nearly three thousand soldiers, a fourth of whom were in mere support units, two hundred M113 APCs, thirty M101A1 artillery pieces, an equal number of M24 Chaffee light tanks, and forty five Huey Iroquois transport helicopters, used to supply the men. Today, they were all to, after reaching Khe Sanh, go about and secure territory outside of the base for the rest of BlueFor.

The first of the planes touched down on the runway, gradually slowing to a halt and parking, dropping their ramps. Some of the Iroquois flew overhead, landing at nearby helipads. Artillery pieces were towed out of the planes by M113s, which were flanked on either side by infantry, most of whom carried M14 battle rifles. A select few carried special weapons, like M18s or M60s, and even a pair brought the occasional 81mm mortar out from the plane. The ammunition, thankfully, was stored away in either the choppers or in the APCs tugging artillery guns along.

Major James Nathaniel observed from atop an APC as his men lined up in their companies, while the hundred men from the 4th's supply company moved ammunition crates from their helicopters onto the M113s, as the Hueys simply could not support the rest of the regiment out in the jungle, but could easily resupply the men from the base, or a possible clearing made by the men. Either way, the helicopters would be more useless than the tanks for this mission, which was to head northwest and begin securing roads for the rest of BlueFor, who'd either already arrived or were on their way. If a village was encountered along the way, they were to try and capture that as well.

"Captain Harrison," Major Nathaniel said, looking down at a captain, who quickly turned, looked up, and saluted.
"At ease, son," the major said, right after returning the salute. "I've procured a map for you to use while on this mission, Harrison. Don't forget to set up outposts at those locations, son."
"Thank you, sir," Harrison replied, watching the major climb down from the top of the M113, map in hand. He quickly handed it to his subordinate, who reviewed it. "And I won't, sir."
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"Hmm... we can do it without a problem, sir," Harrison stated, folding up the map and putting it into his pocket.
"That's the spirit, captain! Now, get your men and get to work!"
"Yes sir!"

The captain was quick in calling for the three battalions, and, soon enough, they were mounting up in the M113s and preparing to go and accomplish their mission. They expected little to no resistance, but brought the brunt of their force mostly because they needed some of their men to set up positions at the roads to create the requested outposts. They had no engineers along for the ride, save for a few brought with First from the base, and so they had to sacrifice firepower for construction capability.

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Postby Vivoe » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:59 am

Lang Vei, Vietnam 1960, 1st January, 9AM

The troops of 1RAR were moving on foot, patrolling through the jungle and shrub regions and making it to their respective patrol points. Once they arrived a description of each town or point was recorded, sent back to HQ and added to the general situational awareness. The 105mm Howitzers back at Khe Sanh Combat Base where just starting to come online, it was always dangerous to send troops out without fire support. The 105mm shells had a maximum range of just over 11 kilometres, any troops further out than that would need air support or motorized mortars rather than the slow moving howitzers.

Hill 1015 just to the north was empty, eventually a fire base would be set up on both hill 950 and 1015 but that would be worried about later. Xom Ta Can was a small village of ten huts populated by Vietnamese peasant farmers, Tum Lang was a similar town but three times larger with a number of primitive huts and houses. The inhabitants were terrified when a hundred and twenty heavily armed foreigners came walking and they hid indoors. Trung Thuan was abandoned, a burnt out wreckage of a small farming village was all that was left. Throng van was much larger than any of the previous towns, it had an actual population centre and a crude government system, around five times larger than Tum Lang it was divided into several sections.

The next objective was to secure Route 9, work it into a supply line and use it to supply troops, reduce enemy movement and allow for rapid deployment of mechanized forces.
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:55 am

Xom Bong, 9:15 AM

The two NVA battalions had just arrived in the Xom Bong area. The HQ was set up on the eastern slope of Hill 881. The 211th nested between Hill 632 and 303 where it would be safe from artillery fire coming from potential hostiles to the south, while the 212th settled two kilometres south of Xom Bong. The commander of the 212th ordered the 9th Company, an engineering unit, to build a bridge over a ravine which connected the village with Xa Lang Miet further to the north. The previous bridge had been bombed months earlier during an aerial campaign, frustrating the locals and severing their contact with friends and relatives in the northern village.

Two artillery batteries of four 122mm A-19 guns began immediate deployment - the battery of 4th Company was being deployed between hills 444 and 632, while the guns of 10th Company were being stationed between Hills 861 and 861A. These powerful guns could fire at a distance of 20 kilometres, putting most potential hostile forces in their range, but were relatively slow to load and deploy. To increase the agility of artillery support for both units, the mortar platoon of the 10th Company, consisting of four M-160 160 mm heavy mortars, split up and deployed two mortars on the northern slopes of the hills where the 122 mm guns were being deployed. The mortars could provide indirect fire with a range of 8 kilometres without worrying about counterbattery fire.

To increase awareness of hostile presence in the area, 5th Company dispatched two BRDM-1 scout cars and a 30-man sniper platoon along the valley northeast of Hill 861A. The BRDMs had little trouble traversing the rough terrain and carefully avoided open spaces where they could be spotted by long-range enemy observation. The snipers began positioning on elevated vantage points on treetops, camouflaging themselves to become almost invisible. They knew the area very well, and one by one they were picking positions which would eventually provide them with excellent coverage over the valley.

The two BRDMs were now slowly advancing west of Hill 558 towards Xom Ta Can.
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Postby Vivoe » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:32 am

Throng Van, 9:15 AM
Captain Fenz was in command of Alpha Company, 1RAR. His troops were walking through the small town, weary of the civilians who could not be told apart from the enemies they came to fight again. A defensive perimeter had been set up just outside Throng Van after they had gone through to recce the location. Fenz was called over to his radio operator, the Brigadier himself was on the line. "Fenz, I need you to hold Throng Van." the Brigadier told him through the crackly phone piece.
"Sir?" Fenz questioned.
"We are going to hold Throng Van against the communists. Throng will be turned into an independent fortress town that will have have support from allied forces."
"Yes sir!"
"Remember Fenz, we are here to help the civilians and kill the Viet Cong, don't get it confused."

It was obvious what he meant by that, it was all too easy to get carried away and start fighting the civilians rather than the insurgents. If they did start shooting civilians it would only be hours before they abandoned their towns and became part of the NVA or the local guerrillas. If they were to hold the town and build up on it then it would be a good idea to set a good first impressions, he moved into the town with a section of men while the company guarded the perimeter. He had with him an English-Vietnamese dictionary and one of his own soldiers who was partially fluent in the language and had to try his best with it to make it clear to the leadership in the town just what they were going to do. After a long and broken conversation with the village elders Fenz thought he had gotten his point across. While they still did not look pleased with to have the foreigners in their town it was a relief that they could be made to talk and would not resist the project. It could be argued they felt under duress to agree to the project it was a good start and their own apathy to the war and their will to continue with life with as little trouble as possible would work to the advantage of allied operations.
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Postby Palonitr and Howland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:33 am

Philippine Marine Detachment and NAVSOG, Xa Bai, 9.30 am

Joaqin Oblefias, Major, NAVSOG OPERATIONS UNIT 1
Joaqin felt sympathy for the village of Xa Bai. The Americans had accidentally dropped a bomb here months back and killed off most of the villagers. Anyone else that survived had packed up and went probably joined the NVA. He looked around and saw a couple of the huts still intact, right next to a tunnel, which was probably built by the viet cong earlier in the war. He felt happy. Its been 5 weeks since had found a safe area to rest in. He gave out others to his men. He was the overall commander of the marines and NAVSOG in the area.
"Captain Romeo and Liutenant Greg, get the boys to secure the area and then get a patrol out. We dont want to be suprised by anything tonight. We have a good spot here to sleep and I dont want it to go to waste. Secure the perimeter." Joaqin then went off to sleep in one of the huts.
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Postby Vivoe » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:48 am

Hill 950, Echo Company 1RAR

The troops moved in a wide spread, while they weren't expecting contact it was always a threat. Winning this war was about winning over the civilians, after all, they were the ones that supplied, assisted and sometimes made up the ranks of the Viet Cong. It was important that every effort be made to reduce civilian casualties. The next target for the recon mission was Xa Bai, a small town destroyed by the recent fighting which was a key position should the insurgency wish to strike at Khe Sanh with mortars. It was the holding position of Echo Company 1RAR in their immediate patrol after landing in Khe Sanh. The company moved down the hill and across the roads to the east, 1st platoon was split across either side of the dirt path while the rest of the 3 platoons spread wide, a searching arc ready to test and hit any enemy forces in the area. They walked forwards, always aware and ready, that was when the first shots rang out across the Valley. "Contact front!"
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Postby Palonitr and Howland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:32 am

Xa bai, Philippine Marine Detachment and NAVSOG

Joaqin heard the shots ring from up Hill 950, he sighed. Of course he wouldnt get some rest. He shouted "ALL RIGHT, COMRADES. LET IT RAIN HELL ON THESE CAPITALIST PIGS!!!! ROMEO TAKE YOUR SQUAD AND SET UP A FIRING POSITION BY THOSE ROCKS TO THE EAST. GREG TAKE 2 SQUAD AND FLANK THE FOOLS. YOU MARINES SPREAD YOURSELF OUT AND FIND SOME COVER!" Rifle fire was now pelting Joaqin's position and was coming through the flimsy wooden hut. He jumped out and took cover behind a big tree. He saw that no one could move to their positions. He signalled to his comrades for a supressive fire on the enemy positions. He counted one.... two....... THREE!

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Postby Vivoe » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:39 am

OOC: Just how many of your guys are in the town? I currently have four platoons (1 company) moving in on a recon in force mission.

The Australian troops were firing first, L1A1 SLR rifles firing 7.62 nato and the M60 machine guns were laying down lethal fire and for a couple moments the fight was all one way. In another moment suppressive fire came thundering back at them, fully automatic trying to get the Australians to duck rather than trying to individually hit and kill targets. For a moment it worked, 1st platoon was forced to the ground as a hail storm of rounds ricocheted off the ground and trees. It didn't take long for the other platoons to get moving, folding the formation around the small village with a platoon on either flank while the final platoon assisted 1st platoon. This fight was getting serious.
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Postby Palonitr and Howland » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:28 am

Ooc: A platoon of NAVSOG and 2 Platoon of Marines

Joaqin was taking potshots and whatever he could. It seemed that there were more enemy than they and thank god for the viet cong and their tunnels. He had to retreat, his men did nlt have the strength and morale to beat the larger force of enemy. "Dammit, someone get a rpg into that where ever those imperialist scum are." At the same moment, Greg and his band of men, had moved to the left flank of the Australians. They lobbed grenades and then started the flanking manouver which suprised the fools. With the enemy flanked, the Australians were caught between a crossfire.
Joaqin cursed as he had 1st squad was decimated by a grenade and 1st squadron had the RPG.

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Postby Vivoe » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:41 am

A section of Australian soldiers was pinned down on the far left, flanked on either side. Of the 11 man section 5 were wounded, 2 badly and another 2 were dead. The rest of the platoon on the far left drew back, regrouped and began laying down extended bursts through the M60 support weapons that the platoons carried with them. The L1A1 SLRs were semiautomatic service rifles, massive stopping power and accurate to as far as you could see but they could not lay down the heavy fire needed. To compensate the platoon used their third weapon, the M72 LAW. The Australians fired a 66mm HEAT rocket that struck out at the enemy positions, blowing away two soldiers that had bunched up.

Meanwhile in the center Australian soldiers began pushing up, shear weight of numbers and therefore weight of fire was gradually working against Redfor and the moment they got close enough grenades were thrown into the burnt out huts and buildings, the weak wooden and straw structures were no match for fragmentation and high explosives. The huts began one by one crashing down, either shot to pieces by the M60s or blow to pieces by grenades and LAWs. At this rate the enemy had to be taking casualties, at least as badly as the Australians were.
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