The Vladivostok Alliance (DISBANDED)

[Belkan Provinces]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

never mind then, *walks quietly back to corner with head down in shame*

What about....

M1 Abrams
or
LEOPARD 2
or
Challenger 2

a Montana II, those tanks are like totally great and Grittonian.

I love Grittonia. Did you know that? I love you Grittonia.

fixed.

OOC:STOP PUTTIN WORDS IN MAH MOUTH!!!! lol

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Boridistan would like to send the following forces to the Alliance Guard: 1st Infantry division (10,000) .

Alright, they will be added a.s.a.p.

[Grittonia]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

never mind then, *walks quietly back to corner with head down in shame*

What about....

M1 Abrams
or
LEOPARD 2
or
Challenger 2

a Montana II, those tanks are like totally great and Grittonian.

I love Grittonia. Did you know that? I love you Grittonia.

fixed.

OOC:STOP PUTTIN WORDS IN MAH MOUTH!!!! lol

OOC: I get the hint. You want something else in your mouth, right? I'm up for it.

[Belkan Provinces]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

never mind then, *walks quietly back to corner with head down in shame*

What about....

M1 Abrams
or
LEOPARD 2
or
Challenger 2

a Montana II, those tanks are like totally great and Grittonian.

I love Grittonia. Did you know that? I love you Grittonia.

fixed.

OOC:STOP PUTTIN WORDS IN MAH MOUTH!!!! lol

OOC: I get the hint. You want something else in your mouth, right? I'm up for it.

OOC: NOT FUNNY lol, ok it was funny but NO NO NO NO NO and, oh yeah NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Grittonia]

OOC: NOT FUNNY lol, ok it was funny but NO NO NO NO NO and, oh yeah NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OOC: No need to get angry.

[Pokemonman]

Nation Full name: The Conservative Democracy of Pokemonman
National Leader Name (full name please): David Henry Smith
Military forces you wish to divert in case of emergency: 800,000 Troops, 200 Tanks, 25 Fighter Jets, 5 Battleships, 1 Aircraft Carrier
USD You wish to donate to the Emergency Contingency Fund: I cannot donate now due to my economy but will when economy rises
NS Government Type: Inoffencive Centrist Democracy

Any other alliances you are currently associated with: Global Democratic Federation
What is your position in said alliance: Member

*Form of Socialism You Associate with (if any): Pokemonman is capitalist, however, we are allied with some socialist and communist nations
*What do you wish to gain from this alliance: Military Protection and New Trade Opportunities
*What is the your largest ship in naval service: Aircraft Carriers
*Give a brief summary about your nation: We are a capitalist nation who is based mainly on a Center-Right Wing stance. We have a huge 3.317 billion populaton and a 1% military size. Our top priorities are Defence, Law and Order, and Education. We are proud that crime is "unknown" in Pokemonman, that we have a great military, and that we are in a wonderful region which has all friendly nations.

[Belkan Provinces]

Nation Full name: The Conservative Democracy of Pokemonman
National Leader Name (full name please): David Henry Smith
Military forces you wish to divert in case of emergency: 800,000 Troops, 200 Tanks, 25 Fighter Jets, 5 Battleships, 1 Aircraft Carrier
USD You wish to donate to the Emergency Contingency Fund: I cannot donate now due to my economy but will when economy rises
NS Government Type: Inoffencive Centrist Democracy

Any other alliances you are currently associated with: Global Democratic Federation
What is your position in said alliance: Member

*Form of Socialism You Associate with (if any): Pokemonman is capitalist, however, we are allied with some socialist and communist nations
*What do you wish to gain from this alliance: Military Protection and New Trade Opportunities
*What is the your largest ship in naval service: Aircraft Carriers
*Give a brief summary about your nation: We are a capitalist nation who is based mainly on a Center-Right Wing stance. We have a huge 3.317 billion populaton and a 1% military size. Our top priorities are Defence, Law and Order, and Education. We are proud that crime is "unknown" in Pokemonman, that we have a great military, and that we are in a wonderful region which has all friendly nations.

APPLICATION ACCEPTED, WELCOME POKEMONMAN!!!

[Grittonia]

All members, don't forget to vote on the Chaiman election.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40840

[Uawc]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

We have a good MT tank.

And what are the stats for it?

It's a hybrid. That's all you need to know.

Okay, kidding, though it is a hybrid. It's called the DtN-6. It's built to be powerful while still not damaging the atmosphere. Its armor is a steel-composite-reactive blend (Kontakt-5), it runs on biodiesel, can drive at speeds up to 60km/hr. It's got laser warning receivers and an EMT-7 anti-mine defense system. Its standard armament includes a 130mm semi-automatic revolver cannon, which allows it to fire up to 6 shells in quick succession before reloading. Its secondary armament is a UAWC ETGG-754 general-purpose machine gun, which can be detached and used by a single soldier in emergencies. However, it is important to note that the DtN-6 tank can use many other machine guns as well. The DtN-6 also features thermal sights, so it's easily used at night.

[Belkan Provinces]

Official Message

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To: High Command of The Vladivostok Alliance
From: Prime Minister Alex Grean

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Requesting Assistance for my nation. We have fended off a missile strike, but an invasion seems imminent. Please send help, right away.
It is in the best interest of the Vladivostok Alliance to quash the expansionist ambitions of Vlack Strum and allies, before they dominate innocent nations, and their people.

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Prime Minister of the Republic of Sailsia,

OOC:Bumping it up for easier access...

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OOC:Alliance Page Updated

[Solyhniya]

I can make tanks on Spore, but I'll need you all to give me some details before I go ahead.

Ammunition: the 7.62 seems extreme for all assault rifles, especially in CQB. Needless to say, the 5.56 is useless in all situations bar the latter. How about a compromise? The 6.8 Remington seems about the best choice (Solyhniya uses the 6.78x46 which is longer, slightly thinner, but still uses the concept of an intermediate assault rifle round).

Regiments: as of recently, Solyhniya's ERF personnel are no longer drawn from the mainstream Solyhniyan army. Instead, they are troops dedicated primarily to the ERF who are trained in the KRS.

[Uawc]

I can make tanks on Spore, but I'll need you all to give me some details before I go ahead.

Ammunition: the 7.62 seems extreme for all assault rifles, especially in CQB. Needless to say, the 5.56 is useless in all situations bar the latter. How about a compromise? The 6.8 Remington seems about the best choice (Solyhniya uses the 6.78x46 which is longer, slightly thinner, but still uses the concept of an intermediate assault rifle round).

Regiments: as of recently, Solyhniya's ERF personnel are no longer drawn from the mainstream Solyhniyan army. Instead, they are troops dedicated primarily to the ERF who are trained in the KRS.

The UAWC has experience with all 7.62x39 cartridge types, but we think it's the best option. How is 7.62x39mmC extreme?

[Solyhniya]

I can make tanks on Spore, but I'll need you all to give me some details before I go ahead.

Ammunition: the 7.62 seems extreme for all assault rifles, especially in CQB. Needless to say, the 5.56 is useless in all situations bar the latter. How about a compromise? The 6.8 Remington seems about the best choice (Solyhniya uses the 6.78x46 which is longer, slightly thinner, but still uses the concept of an intermediate assault rifle round).

Regiments: as of recently, Solyhniya's ERF personnel are no longer drawn from the mainstream Solyhniyan army. Instead, they are troops dedicated primarily to the ERF who are trained in the KRS.

The UAWC has experience with all 7.62x39 cartridge types, but we think it's the best option. How is 7.62x39mmC extreme?

It's heavy, inaccurate and largely unnecessary at close ranges due to the recoil it usually produces (countered by the balanced gas system used in Solyhniya's Vlasjuk series). The 6.8 seems to solve most of these problems fairly flawlessly.

[Solyhniya]

As you know, many of us are now directly involved in the war on Vlack Sturm. Relating to the plans I have TG'd to some of you, shown below is the Mykhajlyk-Romanenko B101 experimental rudderless strategic bomber, armed with cruise missiles:

[Uawc]

I can make tanks on Spore, but I'll need you all to give me some details before I go ahead.

Ammunition: the 7.62 seems extreme for all assault rifles, especially in CQB. Needless to say, the 5.56 is useless in all situations bar the latter. How about a compromise? The 6.8 Remington seems about the best choice (Solyhniya uses the 6.78x46 which is longer, slightly thinner, but still uses the concept of an intermediate assault rifle round).

Regiments: as of recently, Solyhniya's ERF personnel are no longer drawn from the mainstream Solyhniyan army. Instead, they are troops dedicated primarily to the ERF who are trained in the KRS.

The UAWC has experience with all 7.62x39 cartridge types, but we think it's the best option. How is 7.62x39mmC extreme?

It's heavy, inaccurate and largely unnecessary at close ranges due to the recoil it usually produces (countered by the balanced gas system used in Solyhniya's Vlasjuk series). The 6.8 seems to solve most of these problems fairly flawlessly.

The only round with similar lethality to 7.62x39mmC that we have experience with is 5.45x39mm. We've never used 6.8, but we do feel comfortable trying out 6.5 Grendel. Our CS-RO rifle is highly modular and can easily be calibrated for any of these calibers.

[Uawc]

As you know, many of us are now directly involved in the war on Vlack Sturm. Relating to the plans I have TG'd to some of you, shown below is the Mykhajlyk-Romanenko B101 experimental rudderless strategic bomber, armed with cruise missiles:

An excellent fighter, to be sure. The UAWC would also like to present its 2013 Battlemech:

The UAWC has a new mech!

Its old mech, the 2012, has done wonders for our military. However, it presented a very large target and had balance issues due to its way-too-long barrel. In light of this, the Union introduces its new mech, the 2013 Battlemech!


Image shown is entirely 2D, so the other leg is not visible.

The 2013 Battlemech features, like its predecessor, a semi-automatic revolver cannon which allows the pilot to fire up to 6 massive 130mm rounds in quick succession before reloading. However, obviously caution should be taken as the recoil from doing so can in some situations compromise the 2013's balance. The 2013 also features two short arms, each equipped with 30mm AL-100 miniguns as well as HSML (Heat-Seaking Missile Launcher) weapon systems. The 2013 is also a hybrid.

[Belkan Provinces]

Well, the Belkan Provinces presents our newest artillery piece:

The Medusa Siege Tank

Vehicle Name: Medusa Siege Tank
Main Armament: Medusa Siege Gun
Secondary Armament: Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: II-XIII
Traverse: 3 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, 2 Loaders
Elevation: From 0 to +40 degrees
Powerplant: Vulcanor 16 twin coupled multi-burn
Main Ammunition: 18 rounds
Secondary Ammunition: 300 rounds
Weight: 38 tonnes
Length: 5.29m
Width: 3.78m
Height: 3.72m
Superstructure: 100mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - (on road) 50kph
Max Speed - (off road) 35kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-3021-BA112
Transport Capacity: n/a
Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: n/a
Turret: n/a

We are afterall planning to dig in after our initial assault (In the Sailsian Conflict), Trench Warfare is our cup o' tea

[Renzenia]

Standard equipment is the worst idea ever. It has failed numerous times at several other alliances, and believe me, it won't work here.

Plus, I believe I AM the commander of the ERF, so anything related to 'my' forces, should be forwarded to me, awnsered by me and not decided by a small group of members who do not control the ERF.

Wow, take it easy. The funny thing is before the coup, I was the ERF Commander and you got bent out of shape because BP put me in without an election but now you are saying that other countries dont have any say in what there forces wear or use?? and Alliance Uniforms would be a good idea so there isn't any blue on blue on the battlefield.

[Grittonia]

Standard equipment is the worst idea ever. It has failed numerous times at several other alliances, and believe me, it won't work here.

Plus, I believe I AM the commander of the ERF, so anything related to 'my' forces, should be forwarded to me, awnsered by me and not decided by a small group of members who do not control the ERF.

Wow, take it easy. The funny thing is before the coup, I was the ERF Commander and you got bent out of shape because BP put me in without an election but now you are saying that other countries dont have any say in what there forces wear or use?? :eyebrow: and Alliance Uniforms would be a good idea so there isn't any blue on blue on the battlefield.

I believe that part is not what is being questioned here or should be questioned. The Vladivostok Alliance is a democratic alliance. When a player with almost no seeable experience gets chosen (prob. because you know each other from school or whatever), I will bitch about it, yes. But, I'm over it and now a better experianced person is chosen who will surely lead us to safety and security.
I am the commander, I believe that I need to control or command, hence the commander title, the troops. If Belkan Provinces says: Let's do that! and immediatly changes the structure of the ERF, it is unfair as I am the commander and thus should be asked if it is possible, practicle and payable. After that, and with my support that it is achievable (standard weapons for example is unpracticle and EXTREMELY expensive yet standard uniforms is achieable) we can vote with the members.
I propose yellow helmets with a purple/red uniform. Or entirely pink, pink is the new fashion color, atleast so they say. Always need to have a stylish force otherwise they get laughed due their horrible uniforms.

[La Habana]

I am the commander, I believe that I need to control or command, hence the commander title, the troops. If Belkan Provinces says: Let's do that! and immediately changes the structure of the ERF, it is unfair as I am the commander and thus should be asked if it is possible, practicle and payable. After that, and with my support that it is achievable (standard weapons for example is unpracticle and EXTREMELY expensive yet standard uniforms is achievable) we can vote with the members.

I agree with this. I trust Grittonia's judgement on this matter, as it is completely outside the capacity of members to re-equip their ERF contingent forces, the costs would be monumental, even The Emergency Contingency Fund wouldn't be able to cover the costs (which, might I add, La Habana donated considerable sums to). It seems to me that there are no real practical purposes for standardising equipment in The ERF. A standard uniform and identifying markers, on the other hand, are an absolute necessity.

[Belkan Provinces]

I agree that standardized weaponry would be extremely expensive and a headache with more and more nations constantly joining.

Standard uniforms however would be easier and a simple symbol painted on the side of a Tank/APC/Plane etc. would also make it easier to identify friend from foe, rather than spending a ****ton of money buying new ships to replace perfectly good ones.

BUT PINK??????? Hows this for uniforms:
Woodland

Desert

Arctic

Urban

Helmet

[Grittonia]

I agree that standardized weaponry would be extremely expensive and a headache with more and more nations constantly joining.

Standard uniforms however would be easier and a simple symbol painted on the side of a Tank/APC/Plane etc. would also make it easier to identify friend from foe, rather than spending a ****ton of money buying new ships to replace perfectly good ones.

BUT PINK??????? Hows this for uniforms:
Woodland

Desert

I hate them. They are so standard that it won't help. We need a good color. Yellow helmets with red and purple uniforms will help our troops to spot each other. Sure, the enemy will be able to spot us too, but the increase in kills is neglictable.

[Belkan Provinces]

I hate them. They are so standard that it won't help. We need a good color. Yellow helmets with red and purple uniforms will help our troops to spot each other. Sure, the enemy will be able to spot us too, but the increase in kills is neglictable.

We could try helmets with built-in-strobes to identify freindlies, give the ERF lots of tech so we can have a technological edge for the most part

[Grittonia]

I hate them. They are so standard that it won't help. We need a good color. Yellow helmets with red and purple uniforms will help our troops to spot each other. Sure, the enemy will be able to spot us too, but the increase in kills is neglictable.

We could try helmets with built-in-strobes to identify freindlies, give the ERF lots of tech so we can have a technological edge for the most part

The problem with Technology is that it can break or be hacked etc.
We need something like clothes with a not-so-many used color, as that won't break.

[Pokemonman]

Belkan and Grittonia,

We could put a red patch on the side of our helmets to idenify ourselves. So we will not automatically be recognized by our uniforms or have our technology possibly break down and cause major chaos.

[Belkan Provinces]

I hate them. They are so standard that it won't help. We need a good color. Yellow helmets with red and purple uniforms will help our troops to spot each other. Sure, the enemy will be able to spot us too, but the increase in kills is neglictable.

We could try helmets with built-in-strobes to identify freindlies, give the ERF lots of tech so we can have a technological edge for the most part

The problem with Technology is that it can break or be hacked etc.
We need something like clothes with a not-so-many used color, as that won't break.

Ok, I do agree that we need something a bit out of the norm, but not WAY out there...

how's our main military uniform:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2223/helghast.jpg

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Good idea Pokemonman