The Vladivostok Alliance (DISBANDED)

[Nitom]

it was a british operation at his mountain side house, they had explosive ammo so that even if they didnt kill him on the initial shot the explosion would kill him

[Solyhniya]

it was a british operation at his mountain side house, they had explosive ammo so that even if they didnt kill him on the initial shot the explosion would kill him

Everyone knows what an explosive round is. The point is how does yours fit "any gun"???

[Nitom]

Easy we just out fit the ammo with a holder. (A piece of metal that holds the bullet in place untill it is shot then it waits for the next bullet to be shot.)

[Belkan Provinces]

How's this idea:

Every Unit that uses a specific weapon for example, my own 122nd Regiment are folded into an army that uses only the same form of ammo
For Example:

2nd ERF Army
Commander: (Insert Name Here)
Assignment: None

Regiments
-Belkan 122nd Reg ---- Sta-54 LAR.....5.45x39mm
-Belkan 167th Reg ----Sta-54 LAR......5.45x39mm
-Renzenian 9th Repub. Ran. -----AN-94...........5.45x39mm

That way it's easier to identify what ammo needs to go where and keeps things organised

[Nitom]

k that sound good.

Im now a member of The ASA, The VA, and CONS, im going to start working on a joint alliance project with all 3 alliances.

[La Habana]

How's this idea:

Every Unit that uses a specific weapon for example, my own 122nd Regiment are folded into an army that uses only the same form of ammo
For Example:

2nd ERF Army
Commander: (Insert Name Here)
Assignment: None

Regiments
-Belkan 122nd Reg ---- Sta-54 LAR.....5.45x39mm
-Belkan 167th Reg ----Sta-54 LAR......5.45x39mm
-Renzenian 9th Repub. Ran. -----AN-94...........5.45x39mm

That way it's easier to identify what ammo needs to go where and keeps things organised

A standardized ammo would be a better idea. I mean NATO in RL had this problem, that all the members argued over which weapon should be the standard weapon, and they compromised by having a standard calibre instead.

OOC: If the standardization of weapons and ammo is going to be related to regiments etc, then I will have to arrange my ERF contingent into divisions, something that I have put off until now.

[Dianstria]

Is it too late for Dianstria to join the Alliance?

[Uawc]

Easy we just out fit the ammo with a holder. (A piece of metal that holds the bullet in place untill it is shot then it waits for the next bullet to be shot.)

You don't have any idea how guns work, do you?

Explain to me the process of loading and firing a Heckler & Koch USP .45, in full detail.

[La Habana]

k that sound good.

Im now a member of The ASA, The VA, and CONS, im going to start working on a joint alliance project with all 3 alliances.

You DO NOT have the authority to do so.

[Grittonia]

k that sound good.

Im now a member of The ASA, The VA, and CONS, im going to start working on a joint alliance project with all 3 alliances.

[professional]You are not a member of the Vladivostok Alliance and cannot be seen on the member list. Please leave this thread alone, danke schön. [/professional]

[Uawc]

Is it too late for Dianstria to join the Alliance?

We're always open for applications.

[Belkan Provinces]

How's this idea:

Every Unit that uses a specific weapon for example, my own 122nd Regiment are folded into an army that uses only the same form of ammo
For Example:

2nd ERF Army
Commander: (Insert Name Here)
Assignment: None

Regiments
-Belkan 122nd Reg ---- Sta-54 LAR.....5.45x39mm
-Belkan 167th Reg ----Sta-54 LAR......5.45x39mm
-Renzenian 9th Repub. Ran. -----AN-94...........5.45x39mm

That way it's easier to identify what ammo needs to go where and keeps things organised

A standardized ammo would be a better idea. I mean NATO in RL had this problem, that all the members argued over which weapon should be the standard weapon, and they compromised by having a standard calibre instead.

OOC: If the standardization of weapons and ammo is going to be related to regiments etc, then I will have to arrange my ERF contingent into divisions, something that I have put off until now.

OOC: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adding up all the troops for the ERF is a nightmare, organising it into units saves me so much time
IC: If we do standardize ammo, it better be a round that packs a punch (doesn't have to be a .50 cal) but armor peircing rounds would nice

[Uawc]

How's this idea:

Every Unit that uses a specific weapon for example, my own 122nd Regiment are folded into an army that uses only the same form of ammo
For Example:

2nd ERF Army
Commander: (Insert Name Here)
Assignment: None

Regiments
-Belkan 122nd Reg ---- Sta-54 LAR.....5.45x39mm
-Belkan 167th Reg ----Sta-54 LAR......5.45x39mm
-Renzenian 9th Repub. Ran. -----AN-94...........5.45x39mm

That way it's easier to identify what ammo needs to go where and keeps things organised

A standardized ammo would be a better idea. I mean NATO in RL had this problem, that all the members argued over which weapon should be the standard weapon, and they compromised by having a standard calibre instead.

OOC: If the standardization of weapons and ammo is going to be related to regiments etc, then I will have to arrange my ERF contingent into divisions, something that I have put off until now.

OOC: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adding up all the troops for the ERF is a nightmare, organising it into units saves me so much time
IC: If we do standardize ammo, it better be a round that packs a punch (doesn't have to be a .50 cal) but armor peircing rounds would nice

This caliber idea is good. I suggest Union rounds; for full-size rifles, we have rimless 7.62x54mm rounds. More powerful than 7.62x51mm, and legendary for accuracy and range...and, because our 7.62x54mm rounds are rimless, they can be easily loaded into box magazines and fired on fully automatic.

For assault rifles and carbines, the Union uses 7.62x39mmC. This is very similar to the M67 7.62 short, except the bullet is especially designed to be not as stable; it has a hollow space inside (like the 5.45x39mm round) which means lots of tumbling when entering human tissue. The 7.62x39mmC also retains the anti-materiel power the M67 7.62x39mm round has, so it can literally blast through solid concrete, enter the target from behind, tumble, and end the conflict. In short, it combines the sheer ball-shrinking power of the 7.62x39 with the lethality of the 5.45x39 cartridge.

For handguns and submachine guns, we use 11.43x23mm. It's the same as .45 ACP.

For PDWs we use 5.7x28mm, the same cartridge used in the P90.

[Belkan Provinces]

Rimless 7.62x54mm rounds sound good to me, pack a punch and can pierce some forms of body armor.

[Uawc]

Rimless 7.62x54mm rounds sound good to me, pack a punch and can pierce some forms of body armor.

Not only that, but because it's rimless you can pack a lot of them into a single box magazine, like we do with our CS-RO.

[La Habana]

I looked back through the posts on the thread and eventually found the original post I made, which said what kind of weapons my ERF forces use:

Type 150 Assault Rifle:

Manufacturer: ArmaTech Corporation™.
Materials: Polymers.
Calibre: .50.
Ammunition Capacity: 35.
Accuracy of 90% within 500 Metres.


Type 120 Pistol:

Manufacturer: ArmaTech Corporation™.
Materials: Polymers.
Calibre: .50.
Ammunition Capacity: 15.
Accuracy of 90% within 175 Metres.

S9910 Cybernetic Assault Unit

Manufacturer: ArmaTech Corporation™.

V2200 Armoured Personnel Carrier

Manufacturer: ArmaTech Corporation™.

R1103 Sentry Robots

Manufacturer: ArmaTech Corporation™.

A915 Transport/Command Aircraft

Manufacturer: Aerodynamic Systems Incorporated™.

[Belkan Provinces]

Rimless 7.62x54mm rounds sound good to me, pack a punch and can pierce some forms of body armor.

Not only that, but because it's rimless you can pack a lot of them into a single box magazine, like we do with our CS-RO.

But we still would have an issue with money, buying a crap ton of boxes of ammo + weapons that use them = lots and lots of money

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Type 150 Assault Rifle:

Manufacturer: ArmaTech Corporation™.
Materials: Polymers.
Calibre: .50.
Ammunition Capacity: 35.
Accuracy of 90% within 500 Metres.

looks cool, but .50 caliber, that would be heavy!!!

[La Habana]

Rimless 7.62x54mm rounds sound good to me, pack a punch and can pierce some forms of body armor.

Not only that, but because it's rimless you can pack a lot of them into a single box magazine, like we do with our CS-RO.

But we still would have an issue with money, buying a crap ton of boxes of ammo + weapons that use them = lots and lots of money

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Type 150 Assault Rifle:

Manufacturer: ArmaTech Corporation™.
Materials: Polymers.
Calibre: .50.
Ammunition Capacity: 35.
Accuracy of 90% within 500 Metres.

looks cool, but .50 caliber, that would be heavy!!!

OOC: Edited the post, just to make clear that it is humans with some cybernetic enhancements that carry the .50 calibre weapons.

[Belkan Provinces]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

[Grittonia]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

[Uawc]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

We have a good MT tank.

[Grittonia]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

We have a good MT tank.

And what are the stats for it?

I'm thinking of posting the Montana II. Cheap to maintain, easy to learn to control and it packs a good punch.

[Belkan Provinces]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

never mind then, *walks quietly back to corner with head down in shame*

What about....

M1 Abrams
or
LEOPARD 2
or
Challenger 2

[Grittonia]

You know, for tanks we should use the old reliable Imperial Guard Leman Russ Main Battle Tank

Stats:

Vehicle Name: Leman Russ Battle Tank
Main Armament: Battle Cannon
Secondary Armament: Lascannon or Heavy Bolter
Known Patterns: I-XXXIII
Traverse: 360 degrees
Crew: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Loader, 2 Sponson Gunners
Elevation: From -8 to +22 degrees
Powerplant: HL230 v12 multi-fuel
Main Ammunition: 40 rounds
Weight: 60 tonnes
Secondary Ammunition: Unlimited or 600 rounds
Length: 7.08m Armour
Width: 4.86m
Height: 4.42m
Superstructure: 180mm
Ground Clearance: 0.45m
Hull: 150mm
Max Speed - on road 35kph
Gun Mantlet 100mm
Max Speed - off road: 21kph
Vehicle Designation: 0427-941-1876-LR657/514
Tranport Capacity:
None Firing Ports: n/a
Access Points: top hatch
Turret: 200mm

Or, how about not and keep to normal full MT stuff for a tank? Otherwise, we might as well also make a flying fortress as our moving HQ.

never mind then, *walks quietly back to corner with head down in shame*

What about....

M1 Abrams
or
LEOPARD 2
or
Challenger 2

a Montana II, those tanks are like totally great and Grittonian.

I love Grittonia. Did you know that? I love you Grittonia.

fixed.

[Boridistan]

Boridistan would like to send the following forces to the Alliance Guard: 1st Infantry division (10,000) .