The Vladivostok Alliance (DISBANDED)

[Solyhniya]

That's not a battlestation... it's a space station.

[Grittonia]

That's not a battlestation... it's a space station.

Plus, Death Star I is a big no-no. Death Star II is a maybe, if we have immense resources (larger than we have now).

And that's just talking about defensive/attacking capabilities.

[Jungastia]

so nations who...claim to have bases on other planets unfortunately cannot exist in the same plain of existence as the VA Space Program. Sorry to disappoint.

It depends on how you look at it and what planet, as Lunar or Martian bases are well within current technologies, for example the US abandoned its Lunar program but if it and the USSR had continued, Lunar bases would be a very real thing, that is why Lunar and Martian bases are part of our Space Program, because the technology is modern and could have potentially existed since the mid 1980s

[Solyhniya]

so nations who...claim to have bases on other planets unfortunately cannot exist in the same plain of existence as the VA Space Program. Sorry to disappoint.

It depends on how you look at it and what planet, as Lunar or Martian bases are well within current technologies, for example the US abandoned its Lunar program but if it and the USSR had continued, Lunar bases would be a very real thing, that is why Lunar and Martian bases are part of our Space Program, because the technology is modern and could have potentially existed since the mid 1980s

A fully working base on the moon? I don't mean some crappy pod, I mean a fully-fledged, comfortable, functional base of operations. This is what the VA should be working to make a reality.

[Jade Confederacy]

what are some of the the economic advantages a space program will provide?

[Rhods]

Thread jack! (temporary)

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41966

Seems fun guys, a good RP with some veteran nations and what not. I could also use a little support but hey I always wanted to try being a blackened radioactive pit!

[Jungastia]

so nations who...claim to have bases on other planets unfortunately cannot exist in the same plain of existence as the VA Space Program. Sorry to disappoint.

It depends on how you look at it and what planet, as Lunar or Martian bases are well within current technologies, for example the US abandoned its Lunar program but if it and the USSR had continued, Lunar bases would be a very real thing, that is why Lunar and Martian bases are part of our Space Program, because the technology is modern and could have potentially existed since the mid 1980s

A fully working base on the moon? I don't mean some crappy pod, I mean a fully-fledged, comfortable, functional base of operations. This is what the VA should be working to make a reality.

what do you classify as a fully working base, i'm talking about bio-domes etc and modular systems

[New Olwe]

I would like to stress that this alliance is MT...

Then New Olwe cannot be a part of it. I am officially leaving.

That doesn't mean we can't exist in more than one plain. I think Belkan has some kind of a galactic fleet or something. However, as most NSers are MT, so is the Space Program, and the alliance must therefore cater mainly to MT. The VA exists in FT as well though, so I wouldn't sweat it if I were you.

New Olwe's pretty far from FT (in fact, the opposite end of the non-MT spectrum in most areas). My problem with MT is that it doesn't permit the use of magic, which is the basis for most of New Olwe's tactics and technology.

[Solyhniya]

what do you classify as a fully working base, i'm talking about bio-domes etc and modular systems

Sorry, but there really isn't a way that could have happened in the '70s.

Thread jack! (temporary)

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41966

Seems fun guys, a good RP with some veteran nations and what not. I could also use a little support but hey I always wanted to try being a blackened radioactive pit!

I was just reading this thread! I guess the crucial point is: why is it that the VA should protect Sharfghotten?

[Solyhniya]

I would like to stress that this alliance is MT...

Then New Olwe cannot be a part of it. I am officially leaving.

That doesn't mean we can't exist in more than one plain. I think Belkan has some kind of a galactic fleet or something. However, as most NSers are MT, so is the Space Program, and the alliance must therefore cater mainly to MT. The VA exists in FT as well though, so I wouldn't sweat it if I were you.

New Olwe's pretty far from FT (in fact, the opposite end of the non-MT spectrum in most areas). My problem with MT is that it doesn't permit the use of magic, which is the basis for most of New Olwe's tactics and technology.

We're cool with that: basically, you exist in the VA of the future, as do many of our members.

[Geilinor]

Geilinor would like to add 2,000 additional troops to the The Emergency Reaction Force

[Rhods]

Thread jack! (temporary)

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41966

Seems fun guys, a good RP with some veteran nations and what not. I could also use a little support but hey I always wanted to try being a blackened radioactive pit!

I was just reading this thread! I guess the crucial point is: why is it that the VA should protect Sharfghotten?[/quote]

Isn't he one of us?..... Since I guess not then never-mind. Fun thread though.....fun...thread.

[Solyhniya]

Thread jack! (temporary)

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41966

Seems fun guys, a good RP with some veteran nations and what not. I could also use a little support but hey I always wanted to try being a blackened radioactive pit!

I was just reading this thread! I guess the crucial point is: why is it that the VA should protect Sharfghotten?

Isn't he one of us?..... Since I guess not then never-mind. Fun thread though.....fun...thread.[/quote]

You thinking of Shaff?

[Vlack Sturm]

Excuse me, my 'aquintances', I have a new topic that needs those who were in the Vlack Sturm Rearmament and Conquest Thread.

[Alahastra]

Please don't drag the alliance into unnecessary conflicts. What I mean by this is do not use the Alliance's name to bully others into doing what you want. Unless the attacked is a member of the VA, then it is up to the Chairman and its Council Members to decide for its actions.

[Solyhniya]

To: all VA members

I will be on holiday until next weekend, and so will not be able to carry out the duties of chairman for the next seven days. In the meantime, the UAWC will take charge unless is also unable, in which case further delegation shall be made.

[La Habana]

It is election season in La Habana! Cast your vote here: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=42743&p=1760652#p1760652

Don't miss out!

OOC: You can RP a citizen of La Habana if you like, their trip to the polling booth, their reasons for voting who they are voting for etc etc.

[La Habana]

*Bump* for responses to my post.

[Uawc]

*Bump* for responses to my post.

OOC:
I would have posted something but I believe that representative democracy is not real democracy, especially within the capitalist system. I don't vote in those kinds of elections.

[La Habana]

*Bump* for responses to my post.

OOC:
I would have posted something but I believe that representative democracy is not real democracy, especially within the capitalist system. I don't vote in those kinds of elections.

OOC: It's ok, you would have just voted for the communists anyway................

[Belkan Provinces]

*Bump* for responses to my post.

OOC:
I would have posted something but I believe that representative democracy is not real democracy, especially within the capitalist system. I don't vote in those kinds of elections.

That is actually very true, but in just about in any government form, it comes to the people with the money taking control and the people on the bottom suffering.

"If man were perfect there would be no need for government" - anonymous

here UAWC, found this when I was looking for soviet military parades, you might like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br3eKh4VgP0

[Uawc]

*Bump* for responses to my post.

OOC:
I would have posted something but I believe that representative democracy is not real democracy, especially within the capitalist system. I don't vote in those kinds of elections.

That is actually very true, but in just about in any government form, it comes to the people with the money taking control and the people on the bottom suffering.

"If man were perfect there would be no need for government" - anonymous

here UAWC, found this when I was looking for soviet military parades, you might like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br3eKh4VgP0

That was rather enjoyable.

[La Habana]

REMINDER: La Habana Presidential Elections will finish later this week, get your vote in before the polls close! http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=42743&start=0

[Vostria]

OOC: Sorry for my recent inactivity, the USSV hopes to become a more active and committed member of the Alliance in the near future

[La Habana]

LAST CALL BEFORE THE POLLS CLOSE IN THE LA HABANA ELECTION 2010! POLLS CLOSE FRIDAY MORNING! LAST CALL!

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=42743