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Red Talons
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Postby Red Talons » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:28 am

The Technocracy concurs with the Consortium, as this would allow for maximum freedom and control over each nation's respective area. Furthermore, we would be willing to put forth stable, safe, and fully declassified power systems that would be more than capable of providing for such a station. Our cold fusion technology would allow for minimal upkeep of station power core systems without risk of safety as well as without the complications of a sentient power core.

Further, it is out request that artificial intelligence be limited to secure systems in such a way that should rampancy occur, no serious damages can result.

We are prepared to offer advanced analog systems. This would allow for both a minimal level of required upkeep, as well as ensure the simplest possible adaption to alien technology in the case of modular systems.

While we understand that many nations hold differing views on the subject, it is our view that Artificial Intelligence should, for the sake of safety and security, never be allowed direct or indirect access to vital systems such as life support, orbital positioning, security, docking, or airlock systems. Should such an intelligence have access to these or similar systems and become compromised then irreparable damage would result.
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Postby Tellus Mater » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:32 am

As an entire race of synthetic peoples are found under the dominion of the Tellan hegemony we heavily object to this preposterous idea of proposing segregation against artificial intelligence's brought to the floor by the Technocracy. Our peoples, biological or otherwise are to be treated as equals.
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Postby Bentus » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:48 am

The Commonwealth has to agree with the Tellan delegation. Whilst the population of sentient AIs within our nation is still small, they are legally afforded the rights of citizenship based upon their level of sapience and thus receive the same fundamental treatment as our biological citizens. That is not to say their access cannot be limited, as not all information is privy to all biological citizens by default either. Although to bar them access purely based upon their Artificial nature is seen as discrimination by Bentusi law and therefore cannot be a course pursued by this government.
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Postby Neornith » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:16 pm

The Consortium would like it noted that that the Technocracy did not propose segregation so much as limit their interaction with vital systems aboard the space station to ensure the station's inhabitants safety should the AI systems become compromised, the Consortium is equally opposed to handing over such systems to Artificial Intelligences as well. We do not however endorse the idea of discrimination of any kind be they artificial or sapient beings.
Secondly the Consortium seconds the motion of the Technocracy handling the stations power core so long as access to it by all members is provided.
Thirdly the Consortium nominates the Tellan hegemony in constructing the station's Atmosphere maintenance and treatment. We feel their vast knowledge of differing species puts them in the forerunning for such a task.

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Red Talons
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Postby Red Talons » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:15 am

To clarify our earlier statement, we do not suggest any kind of segregation. Merely a sane method of operation. We would not trust every vital system of such a station to any single sentient or non sentient entity. To do so would invite folly. Organic individuals can be compromised in just as many ways as inorganic ones. To give any individual entity full access to every vital system of such a construction would be folly.

The fact is that, as the Gaians stated, an artificial intelligence resides in a body, and that body is subject to the same laws as any organic body. The body in which your spirit resides is yours, an artificial intelligence is no different save for one fact. A synthetic entity is capable of expanding, and changing its body, as able, within a computer network. In a similar way a vine plant can grow in a network of halls.

We would be against any single entity being capable of exerting unchecked control over any vital system, let alone all of them at the same time.
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This is my factbook(perpetually under construction)
Because I advocate more space-magic, Laws For Magic.
A 4.2 civilization, according to this index.
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Defense Status
{Green}--{Orange}--|{Blue}|--{Red}--{Black}
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Universal peace is an archaic concept.
It is like taking a handful of sand,
and expecting none of it to slip through your fingers...

=Isahil Traekith=
---
Fear is a basic emotion...
What frightens you more, the evil that you know?...
...Or the evil that you don't...
When you light a candle,
you also cast a shadow...
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Postby Bentus » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:29 am

Red Talons wrote:To clarify our earlier statement, we do not suggest any kind of segregation. Merely a sane method of operation. We would not trust every vital system of such a station to any single sentient or non sentient entity. To do so would invite folly. Organic individuals can be compromised in just as many ways as inorganic ones. To give any individual entity full access to every vital system of such a construction would be folly.

The fact is that, as the Gaians stated, an artificial intelligence resides in a body, and that body is subject to the same laws as any organic body. The body in which your spirit resides is yours, an artificial intelligence is no different save for one fact. A synthetic entity is capable of expanding, and changing its body, as able, within a computer network. In a similar way a vine plant can grow in a network of halls.

We would be against any single entity being capable of exerting unchecked control over any vital system, let alone all of them at the same time.


This is a position which Bentus can gladly stand behind, and keeps within the limits imposed by the legal system of our country. Indeed, we have been made aware that certain non-organic citizens have expressed agreement with the proposal. We also have no issue with the establishment of either the power source by the Tellan government - should no other members put forward applications - and we support the proposal for the Hegemony to be placed in charge of maintaining the station's atmospheric quality given their experience with the needs of multiple species.
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Postby The Fedral Union » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:41 am

The Terran Alliance supports the Bentusi and Talonian position on the matter, in furtherance we offer our services and technology for the defense, and shield grid of this star-base.
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Postby Neornith » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:05 pm

The Consortium also endorses the stance of the Technocracy for not allowing any one entity in command and wholly stand behind them in this matter.

We also second having the United Terran Alliance as the maker of the stations defenses.

Furthermore the Consortium would like to put forth its name for the construction of the dock facilities on the station. We feel our extensive knowledge and our experience in maintaining and constructing docks on our sky cities as well as our own extensive space station network makes us more than qualified for such a task.
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Postby Etrentia » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:16 pm

The Etrentian Diarchs have come to the decision that they will too support the United Terran Alliance offer to build the defensive systems.

We would also like to offer to build the Atmosphere maintenance and treatment area of the station. We believe that, of the different systems that need construction, this system would be the one in which our engineers would have the most expertise.

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Postby Creataris » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:59 am

The Empire would be happy to take atmosphere control or a portion of security.

Security is a good position for our people because our culture is highly disciplined and militaristic however despite this we only act offensively when threatened and follow our traditions strongly, we have a strong sense of justice which is stronger than most civilisations. One of the empires core races are also mild telepaths to the extent of communication and reading surface thoughts or skimming a mind without a technological aid allowing them to easily tell whose trying to hide something.

Atmosphere is another good position as although some races have similar living requirements like for example those of a standard Terran class planet, however there are also many like our core races that have extreme living requirements such as a different atmosphere, different temperature requirements and even radiation levels. A race that is able to live comfortably on most worlds may not be fully willing to adjust some atmospheres beyond what they're comfortable with. In addition to this we have races within our empire that have radically different atmospheric requirements and whilst many of these people can live on most habitable worlds the other races must live alongside them making my people experts at carefully maintaining different atmospheres, even delicately creating one which is breathable with some discomfort to all races involved.
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The Fedral Union
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Postby The Fedral Union » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:20 pm

We would support a measure to allow for subcontracting of component pieces for systems to multiple nations.
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Postby Hobbeebia » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:08 pm

The Hobbeebian Imperium would like to sub-contract for the production of the stations super-structure and general structural items. Our Industrial output and construction processes would be best to complete specialty objects in a timely manner.
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Postby The Fedral Union » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:00 pm

We should take in to account the different environmental controls different species may need, or special amenities. But otherwise we are satisfied with the proposal.
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Yalos
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Postby Yalos » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:51 pm

The Infinite Empire of the Radiant Moons of Yalos denounces the entire star base operation as a poorly disguised attempt by the United Terran Alliance to force its authority upon other sovereign nations. Through it's facade and mask of cooperation and harmony, the United Terran government covers its machinations, and slowly usurps all that makes our nations mighty and powerful.

The Infinite Empire Radiant Moon Empire, long frustrated at its former benefactor's (referring to, of course, The United Terran Alliance) imperialistic and hegemonic ambitions and aims, hereby boycotts this whole project and will fight any efforts to bring it to fruition. The Radiant Empire will refuse to accept the legitimacy of the project and its aims, and will withdraw from any and all GESO operations until this issue is resolved. The Glorious Sun Emperor has had a few words to say on the issue, shaking his head and sighing, lamenting the Terran attempt to draw all else into its arms of "republicanism" and "freedom."

To defend from any potential retaliation, the Yaliite Military Command has announced its intention to add an additional 50 warships to its starfleet armada, including two dreadnaughts to exceed the length of 7 km, hoping to stave off all Terran aggression, and the Yaliite military has expanded the draft to all colonial territories and extended the eligible service age to 15-200 years of age for most humans. The Radiant Moons also announces the return of the "Fukiita*" warrior code to the military.

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Neornith
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Postby Neornith » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:40 pm

The Consortium notes the Infinite Empire's dissent with the current plans for the GRF Space Station, it has been stressed by several member states multiple times the planned station is to be an instrument of peace and co-operation, where the notion came from the Empire that it is to be used as a weapon of oppression is beyond the Consortium's comprehension.
It has also been noted by the Consortium that the Empire has neither contributed to and has stated it will actively oppose any measure that GESO has tried to democratically come to a consensus on. If the Infinite Empire is so opposed to everything that makes the Galactic Economic and Security Organization what it is, the Consortium must ask, why is the Empire still a member.

Furthermore, the Consortium sees this as a ploy by the Yallites to drive a wedge between the members of GESO and destroy our organization, The Interstellar Consortium of Avlana declares that its support for this noble organization will be unwavering and we will not stand down to any entities attempts at ruining GESO.
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Postby Yalos » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:58 pm

Kiethan Roberts ( a name copied from the United Terrans) stood, his eyes flashing with righteous anger.

"This humble Yaliite delegate would like to, with all due respect, bring your attention to Article 3A of the GESO charter, which states that any nation feeling its posessions or sovereignity to be threatened by a hostile force is compelled to voice such concerns. Yalos, as of the present moment, feels that the United Terrans are attempting to obstrue our efforts at carrying out our foreign policy with its opposition to the use of force to unite Gamma worlds under the pretense of galactic stability and harmony, while in fact, doing nothing but tryin to maintain economic hegemony over the alliance with its powerful infastructure.

The Infinite Empire is appalled by the desire of GESO member states to be cowed by the UTA's human supremacist aims, and urges all nations to reconsider the development of such a space station. The United Terrans will doubtlessly try to maintain their iron fisted control of such a station and all political agents within. Fear the Terran Imperialists. They created this alliance to enslave our mighty nations, and will seek to do so. Our vision of GESO is one in which all nations are truly equal, free of the influence of the Terran Alliance."

Roberts scanned the room, and continued.


"However, it seems we are outvoted. Very well." Sighing deeply, Roberts spoke dejectedly.

"Yalos shall contribute 5,000 Terran Credits for the project towards the implementation of chairs for the control center. Thus rests our contribution to this space station."

Back at home, in the Imperial Palace, theSun Emperor, Bkka, scratched his nose and began to draft a message to the Kornosians, known enemies of the UTA and Hobeebain Imperium. Indeed, Yalos would refuse to lose out on her chance for national glory.

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Postby Neornith » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:26 am

The Consortium would like to know what evidence the Infinite Empire can put forth to justify their claims that the United Terran Alliance actions have been hostile and aggressive towards any member state of GESO. Furthermore it is noted that the United Terran Alliance is more than a human nation alone and has several races amongst it that are neither oppressed or cowed to do the humans bidding, it also noted that the Alliance puts forth the rights and equality of all races in the galaxy. As you can see we are quite confused at where these outrageous accusations are derived from and unless any evidence is put forth by the Infinite Empire we can only dismiss these ridiculous claims as baseless and unfounded.
It is however further noted the the Empire is the only nation at this time that is stepping up preparations for a fabricated retaliation, as such the Consortium can only call into question that actions and the motives of the Infinite Empire as they seem to be the only ones acting aggressively.

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Postby Bentus » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:13 am

Yalos wrote:-snip-


The delegation of Bentus has recognised the complaints raised by the Infinite Empire, and acknowledges there concerns with the Starbase proposal. Regardless, as they have already admitted, in this matter they have been outvoted; as such, the construction of the Starbase shall continue. It is, however, counter-productive for this alliance to force a member state to do something which they consider to be detrimental for their sovereign peace and security. As such, we would like to recommend and remind the Infinite Empire of their right to abstain from the Starbase project, as any and all Security Council resolutions within GESO are non-binding.




Moving on, the delegation of Bentus would like to put its name forward to provide the Water supplies for the station. Due to the specific benefits of our Gateway technology, we can ensure a steady and constant supply of the liquid piped directly through the Gate aperture for the station's convenience. This of course, will require certain power requirements which must be met by the member providing the power source. Details will be attached to the technical forum forwarded to the engineering team. Furthermore, Bentus would be more than willing to use a similar method for transferring fuel to the station; however, we currently still primarily utilize carbon-based fuel, and as such do not believe that we can satisfy the requirements for all member nations.

As part of our proposal to provide the water supply for the station, we will also fund the construction of a water treatment and recycling plant on the station itself, to help with sustainability and to ensure a supply in the event of a Gate collapse or a power failure.
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Postby The Fedral Union » Sat May 03, 2014 3:10 am

Speaking of gates, we should ensure the station is in a system linked to the GESO gate network, it will provide rapid response and increase the flow of commerce.
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Postby Minroz » Sat May 03, 2014 5:59 am

The Fedral Union wrote:Speaking of gates, we should ensure the station is in a system linked to the GESO gate network, it will provide rapid response and increase the flow of commerce.

Good idea.

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Postby Neornith » Tue May 06, 2014 11:11 pm

Thus far the Consortium has compiled a list of what nations have offered what assistance to the GESO station, a star next to a nation name denotes another nation has endorsed their proposal to build that station component.


-Security (i.e. customs, weaponry, etc) United Terran Alliance ** Creataris
-Shielding
-Docks Batheran Republic, Consortium of Avlana
-Fuel supply
-Power supply The Technocracy*, Tellan Hegemony
-Water supply The United Dominion, Bentus
-Foodstuff supply
-Waste disposal and treatment
-Atmosphere maintenance and treatment Creataris, Etrentian Diarch
-Internal transport system
-Artificial gravity generation
-Communications
-Super Structure- Hobbeebian Imperium
Monetary Contributions- Yalos/5000 Terran Credits

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Postby Itailian Maifias » Wed May 07, 2014 5:43 pm

The Hibernian Kingdom can supply the Communications section to the system, assisting the construction of internal communication array's for internal use of the station and the construction of external array's allowing the station to be a true hub for the alliance by communicating with even the most far flung holdings.
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Postby Anagonia » Wed May 07, 2014 7:38 pm

The Confederacy has no idea what is going on. We'll be drinking beer.
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Postby Anagonia » Wed May 07, 2014 7:48 pm

The Confederacy will still drink a beer, but respectfully requests to construct and deal with the Waste Disposal Systems.
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Capital: Liberty, State of Liberty, CSA
President: Mileethus Canisilus
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Postby Neornith » Thu May 08, 2014 12:11 pm

Updated


-Security (i.e. customs, weaponry, etc) United Terran Alliance ** Garmillas
-Shielding United Terran Alliance, Batheran Republic
-Docks Batheran Republic, Consortium of Avlana
-Fuel supply
-Power supply The Technocracy*, Tellan Hegemony
-Water supply The United Dominion, Bentus
-Foodstuff supply
-Waste disposal and treatment- The Confederacy
-Atmosphere maintenance and treatment Garmillas , Etrentian Diarch, Tellan Hegemony*
-Internal transport system
-Artificial gravity generation
-Communications- Hibernian Kingdom, Batheran Republic
-Super Structure- Hobbeebian Imperium
Monetary Contributions- Yalos/5000 Terran Credits

OOC: edited Batheran Republic into the other things she requested, I'm thinking of deleting the food supply and the power supply as I'm thinking each nation will supply it's own food stores and the nation supplying the power core will maintain the fuel supply (Unless this supposed to refer to something else), please input any suggestions on this
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