GESO Official Joint Actions

[Tahar Joblis]

Colonel Aisling bows before the Ruskarkand delegation. "Your Condolences are greatly appreciated, and your suggested course of action quite reasonable. However, there is one glaring problem:

"How do we Amend the Charter? The Charter makes no provision for amendments. Do we need a majority vote? A two-thirds vote? Unanimous?"

"I say we need a majority vote. It is much easier and quicker that way." replied Count Orlov.

The Tahar Joblissan delegation stirred. The first to speak was the brown-haired woman, with the more ordinary human complexion.

"A charter without provision for amendment cannot be amended by some signatories on behalf of others," Sarah said, a sharp edge of anger in her voice. "That is plainly apparent, and amounts to little more than the authoring of a new treaty between the subset of signatories approving of the amendment."

The tall man with greenish skin spoke, gray hair shifting in a manner that spoke of a minute head-shake. His tone was more conciliatory. "However, we could unanimously agree to amend the charter to permit amendments on the basis of some particular quorum. It would, perhaps, be easier to gain agreement on an amendment process than upon a specific amendment."

Sarah glared at the tall man, who patted his mechanical vest in nervous reflex.

The third delegate spoke, her voice high and soft, features hidden under the deep cowl of her cloak, which shimmered faintly. "I propose that a treaty to amend the charter with provision for amendment, as follows. Amendments requiring an approval greater than two-thirds of those voting in reasonable time upon that amendment, with a quorum of no less than two thirds of signatories. Further, that no amendment to ever be passed with less than an absolute majority of support from signatories. Reasonable time shall be adjudicated by the secretary general, but the passage of no amendment shall be delayed beyond the point at which more than an absolute supermajority of two thirds of signatories have approved of that amendment."

The other two delegates glared at each other. Sarah shook her head; the tall man shook his back, more fiercely, and then spoke. "The Tahar Joblissan delegation approves of this treaty and will offer our signature to it."

[Excidium Planetis]

Colonel Aisling speaks on behalf of Excidium Planetis, as Causer has still not recovered from his tirade on tyranny. "I support this amendment to the Charter to allow amendments to the Charter, though it is perhaps a bit wordy. From what I understand, two thirds of the members must approve an amendment to get it to vote, at least two thirds of the members must vote on it, and at least half of all members must support the amendment to amend the charter. The Scretary general decides the time frame for the vote, yes? Good. Please, everyone, approve of this amendment."

[Deminis]

Damian stood up finally to settle this dispute, though hoping to have been able to retain his anonymity. He stood up a waited a second before starting.

"As a member of the Security Council, I can assure you that both Security and Executive councils are separate parties with their own individual members. As well that both members are working for the Good of all Member nations. Now please refrain from diverting from the matter at hand. The meeting with at the Icr Station will have surely stared by now. So perhaps you can all stop wondering in your personal goals and let us focus on our most current of problems. If no peace can be found what actions are we to take..."

Damian Sighed at the end of his rant, He turned from his table and waved his hand behind him.

"I am tired, confused and exhausted, I'll be back after i have had time to think."

[The Fedral Union]

Secretary silver stated calmly a smile across her face as he sipped a drink of water from a frosty glass.

"I think a few corrections in spelling and interpretation would be be need to solve the issue, as for passing new amendments. I agree that a two thirds vote be required to pass any additional legislation. But I must stress, while the executive council and the judicial sections put in place will be elected by the member states of the security council. Both branches should have a semi autonomous separation of powers to act if NEED be.. decisively in a situation we may not have time to debate. We must strike a balance, democratic institutions like ours can only flourish if we work together. But they also require that some task be delegated to what at this juncture amounts to a join executive branch. Witch checks and balances, so we can as a group act effectively and quickly but also preserve the democratic ideals we hold sacrosanct.

Some offices should be chosen directly by the executive council or the secretary general, others should be submitted as proposed candidates to the the general security council here. I hope you follow what I am trying to say my fellow sapient's?

We are arguably the most economically, military and possibly if we put our minds to it powerful group of stellar nations the galaxy has seen, surpassing even the founders dreams. Let us not ruin it with bickering, let us make it last as an example a shining beacon of hope for the galaxy..

On that note I apologize for my outburst. "

-Secretary silver sat down she folded her hands on the desk her mind wandering to the conference and joint delegations attending.-

[Ferret Civilization]

Pacifico continued to listen along quietly, this place was something else. Always seemed to be made of talk, arguing, and planning that he was not sure was even going anywhere. Out of all the things that happened here, they half seemed to result in something that he was not aware of, and that the other half made bickering of some sort. Though this was the second time that he was here at least that there was a problem with something about the charter. He would have preferred so much to stay out of a place like this now, but he had to be here, for the Greater Good of The Colony. He continued to look over what he had written down, talk about a typo was highly disturbing, especially to the likes of him. Though he didn't have the words to express the concerns like the other delegates, or to try and mediate it.

Well, he could busy himself rewriting his notes at least. There was a lot to do and they seemed to be really bogged down in bureaucracy issues and it looked like they were being made worse by the decisions in foreign areas. He sighed to himself, missing his home right about now, since they had their own stuff to do and he couldn't be there to directly help with that.

"Were should it be started then, at the beginning of the charter, or fix and thoroughly define those roles that have seemed to be mixed up?"

[Ruskarkand]

The Draan Representative, Damoclavix, simply sunk into his seat somewhat - a less-than-bemused look plastered across the white contours of his visage. He found his gaze slinking to the side so as to focus on the Artificial Intelligence Platform by his side, a furtive sigh ringing from him all the while. A small exchange was shared between them in the form of a glare - both parties locking eyes as the Draan quietly piped up in Draconic, his tone growing more and more sarcastic throughout the statement. It concluded with both of the parties taking a moment to ease off a short chuckle. "Euclidean nightmare, I suppose." the Platform murmured back - it's response spoken back in plain English, before turning to face forward.

More than that, the Delegation of Ruskarkand abstained from further input on the matter. They simply dwelled on their little exchange for the time being since that was what mattered to them.

[Hobbeebia]

"The UHR would suggest that the delegate from the Sith Empire has failed to grasp what it is that was proposed." Drake stood again, "The UHR is not dismissing the concerns of those delegates calling for armed conflict, however, we do not feel that there are sufficient grounds at this point to pursue a war. We acknowledge the possibility that these Huerdeans might be considering an attack on GESO territory but do not feel that it would be in the interests of the Alliance to provoke a conflict which is, at this point, hypothetical."

"The proposal put forward by the UHR allows for the creation of a scenario in which we may test the Huerdean willingness to attack a GESO state. We give them a target. If they do not have warlike intentions they will not attack it and the argument for peace will have triumphed. If they attack it, this is all the evidence we need to pursue an armed conflict. Following the UHR plan would allow GESO to control any possible attack on our territory, rather than waiting for it to occur at some unforeseen point in the future."

The human delegation of the Imperium stood and spoke in a most arrogant manner.

"This plan would require placing a nations resources in the path of danger.Peoples lives will be at risk, territory threatened. How do we decide who is the be our sacrifical lambs for the hypothetical slaughter hmmm?"

The Eborian delegate smirked and murmured under his breathe loud enough to let the human hear but not the surrounding delegations. "Perhaps the traitors of the Imperium?" The human delegate stopped mid sentence and glared at his counterpart before erupting into an outburst.

"HOW DARE YOU... YOU... POMPOUS ASS! YOU WASTE OF AIR! I WILL RATHER CUT MY OWN THROAT THAN DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT YOU AND YOUR DISGUSTING KIND!"

The Eborian bolted from his chair and took the human by his throat responding in a calm yet stern manner.

"You are embarrassing yourself..." swiftly dropping the man letting him struggle for air.

The Eborian continued "The plan is sound and provides us the best option for keeping an potential conflict on our terms and in a far more controlled manner. As our esteemed partners of Dyelli Beybi said..Better to be in control of when and where it happens than to be taken by surprise."

[Dyelli Beybi]

The human delegation of the Imperium stood and spoke in a most arrogant manner.

"This plan would require placing a nations resources in the path of danger.Peoples lives will be at risk, territory threatened. How do we decide who is the be our sacrifical lambs for the hypothetical slaughter hmmm?"

The Eborian delegate smirked and murmured under his breathe loud enough to let the human hear but not the surrounding delegations. "Perhaps the traitors of the Imperium?" The human delegate stopped mid sentence and glared at his counterpart before erupting into an outburst.

"HOW DARE YOU... YOU... POMPOUS ASS! YOU WASTE OF AIR! I WILL RATHER CUT MY OWN THROAT THAN DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT YOU AND YOUR DISGUSTING KIND!"

The Eborian bolted from his chair and took the human by his throat responding in a calm yet stern manner.

"You are embarrassing yourself..." swiftly dropping the man letting him struggle for air.

The Eborian continued "The plan is sound and provides us the best option for keeping an potential conflict on our terms and in a far more controlled manner. As our esteemed partners of Dyelli Beybi said..Better to be in control of when and where it happens than to be taken by surprise."

The Dyellian delegate inclined his head politely from across the floor, before, briefly, standing to add a few more points, "Obviously the idea of this is that no GESO state becomes a 'lamb led to the slaughter'. We only propose giving the illusion of weakness."

"Now... as for which State that should be. The smaller, the better. It seems unlikely that a bellicose neighbor would ever dare to challenge a State such as the UHR or the Imperium of Hobeebia. Quite frankly, it is my opinion that, even without GESO, there is no scenario in which a State of the size and level of technological advancement of the UHR or Imperium would ever be considered an easy target. If this plan is to be implemented a less powerful state must take up the mantle of responsibility."

[Excidium Planetis]

The human delegation of the Imperium stood and spoke in a most arrogant manner.

"This plan would require placing a nations resources in the path of danger.Peoples lives will be at risk, territory threatened. How do we decide who is the be our sacrifical lambs for the hypothetical slaughter hmmm?"

The Eborian delegate smirked and murmured under his breathe loud enough to let the human hear but not the surrounding delegations. "Perhaps the traitors of the Imperium?" The human delegate stopped mid sentence and glared at his counterpart before erupting into an outburst.

"HOW DARE YOU... YOU... POMPOUS ASS! YOU WASTE OF AIR! I WILL RATHER CUT MY OWN THROAT THAN DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT YOU AND YOUR DISGUSTING KIND!"

The Eborian bolted from his chair and took the human by his throat responding in a calm yet stern manner.

"You are embarrassing yourself..." swiftly dropping the man letting him struggle for air.

The Eborian continued "The plan is sound and provides us the best option for keeping an potential conflict on our terms and in a far more controlled manner. As our esteemed partners of Dyelli Beybi said..Better to be in control of when and where it happens than to be taken by surprise."

The Dyellian delegate inclined his head politely from across the floor, before, briefly, standing to add a few more points, "Obviously the idea of this is that no GESO state becomes a 'lamb led to the slaughter'. We only propose giving the illusion of weakness."

"Now... as for which State that should be. The smaller, the better. It seems unlikely that a bellicose neighbor would ever dare to challenge a State such as the UHR or the Imperium of Hobeebia. Quite frankly, it is my opinion that, even without GESO, there is no scenario in which a State of the size and level of technological advancement of the UHR or Imperium would ever be considered an easy target. If this plan is to be implemented a less powerful state must take up the mantle of responsibility."

Causer leaps up. "Excidium Planetis shall volunteer!"

Colonel Aisling groans and slams his face against his desk.

Causer pays no heed to Aisling. "Excidium Planetis appears a relatively untested Star state to most, features technology that many nations consider primitive, and best of all, possesses absolutely no worlds! With a population of only around 2 billion, most Star states dwarf ours. We appear, to the uninformed, to be a perfect target. We'll simply drop a civilian Fleet in an uninhabited system, make sure this information makes it into enemy hands, and when they move to strike... Bam! All our Militaries show up at once and the civilian Fleet jumps out of the system."

Aisling lifts his head from his desk to reply to Causer. "The only problem, imbecile, is that I doubt one of our fleets is enticing enough to lead the enemy to attack. Besides, we still haven't elected anyone in this damn organization, and the Charter is either completely ignored or bunk."

[The Fedral Union]

The new JA thread has migrated Here

[Zjaum]

Would it be possible to send an ambassador of the nation of Zjaum to the GESO, not as a member but as an observer? We are interested.

[Ella2 6]

We've relocated the GESO's main threads. The new OOC thread can be found here, you may ask your question there and have more... Qualified people answering them, since I don't actually know the answer myself.