Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v.4.0 -- INVITE ONLY)

[The knights of kings]

But lets not forget that Prinnia is building an islamic coalition with three smaller nations as well as seeking an alliances with others. Prinnia has its eyes on the destrcution of Dal as they view them as heretics but also fear rising Compact power to the east.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

But lets not forget that Prinnia is building an islamic coalition with three smaller nations as well as seeking an alliances with others. Prinnia has its eyes on the destrcution of Dal as they view them as heretics but also fear rising Compact power to the east.

Ewwwwww Muslims in the future colonies

[The knights of kings]

But lets not forget that Prinnia is building an islamic coalition with three smaller nations as well as seeking an alliances with others. Prinnia has its eyes on the destrcution of Dal as they view them as heretics but also fear rising Compact power to the east.

Ewwwwww Muslims in the future colonies

You dirty christians will pay!

[Servoth]

But lets not forget that Prinnia is building an islamic coalition with three smaller nations as well as seeking an alliances with others. Prinnia has its eyes on the destrcution of Dal as they view them as heretics but also fear rising Compact power to the east.

Yes, we know. I also know that Anton and Leto are waiting for Aaban to greet Leto, so that our 'affair' can move along.

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Ewwwwww Muslims in the future colonies

You dirty christians will pay!

You silly zealots will subject to a harsh lecture or two!

[The knights of kings]

But lets not forget that Prinnia is building an islamic coalition with three smaller nations as well as seeking an alliances with others. Prinnia has its eyes on the destrcution of Dal as they view them as heretics but also fear rising Compact power to the east.

Yes, we know. I also know that Anton and Leto are waiting for Aaban to greet Leto, so that our 'affair' can move along.

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Ewwwwww Muslims in the future colonies

You dirty christians will pay!

You silly zealots will subject to a harsh lecture or two!

Ah yes I will make haste on that

[Fanaglia]

What does this have to do with anything?

They are your guardians.

You were killed by the Guardians

Really, naming the war after a year was a bad idea, I don't know why we all agreed with it.

I never agreed to it.






(I couldn't decide which one I liked best, so I used them all )

[Servoth]

You were killed by the Guardians

Supremely irrelevant and supremely unhelpful. And some supreme fries with my supreme burger and shake.

I never agreed to it.

(I couldn't decide which one I liked best, so I used them all )

You are now officially banned from using memes or other images. You must also sit on your hands for the next ten years. OBEY

[Inoroth]

You were killed by the Guardians

Supremely irrelevant and supremely unhelpful. And some supreme fries with my supreme burger and shake.

I never agreed to it.

(I couldn't decide which one I liked best, so I used them all )

You are now officially banned from using memes or other images. You must also sit on your hands for the next ten years. OBEY

Moooooooooooooom, Servoth's being all domineering again, make him stop!

[Servoth]

Aiming the machine gun, aiming the machine gun mounted on the plane; they're both still easier done in the cockpit than a few hundred meters off and off-axis. One of these drones is never going to compete with a competent pilot in a dogfight, and I don't see how a fighter-type drone would be effective. On the other hand, using them as a flying bomb seems much more effective (and more in line with actual developments IRL). IRL, they tried to turn the planes into long-range rockets with gyroscopes and primitive navigation, launching them in friendly territory and sending them off after the enemy. The limits of the navigational technology available meant that these weapons were highly inaccurate. My system relies on a human guide to help them along and make course-corrections as needed, instead of the fire-and-forget system that was developed IRL.

As far as keeping the tether craft close, that'd be a weakness, and help to prevent it from becoming an OP weapon. But if you are already going to have an airplane go on a bombing mission or anti-ship/airship attack, it's make sense to bring along all the extra explosive power, no? That's what I am trying to accomplish. Btw, do you have any idea how far away a decent transmitter and receiver combo could realistically be operated away from one another? Is it like 1,000 ft, or would you think less? More? Those RC controller transmitters, which seem to be about a max of 300 ft for aircraft, are much smaller than what would be installed in the tether craft, but they are also more modern, so I don't know...

In the end, I'm not saying you couldn't make the airships the tether for a flying bomb, and if you want to use them that way, great. What I am saying is that I want to tether them to an airplane, and use them as a force multiplier for areoplane bombing attacks on large buildings, structures, ships and airships, and other semi-stationary or slow-moving-relative-to-the-speed-of-the-aircraft targets.

As an aside, though, I actually thought of this when I was trying to think of a counter to another idea I had: the airship ram. It's not really all that practical, but I asked myself "what if you made a half-dozen small and cheap airships, fitted them with large narwhal-like spears on the front and minimal armaments, and used them to attack and impale a larger, more expensive airship, kinda like the torpedo-boat craze that hit the navy as a means to overwhelm battleships?"

Granted, several would probably be shot down, and any impact force strong enough to impale the ship enough to bring it down would probably also damage the attacking ship irreparably, and in the end, it would probably be cheaper to just build a proper airship to counter it, or buy artillery shells with time-fuzes, or pretty much anything other than sending multiple ships on what essentially mounts up to a suicide mission, but it was a cool concept to me. I might still use it, to disastrous results -- not every military experiment can be an unrivaled success, right? But it got me thinking: how might one counter the attack? My answer was to arm the defending airships with hangars that held a few pairs of these flying bomb/tether ships, and deploy them against the attackers, to devastating effect. Just if anyone wanted to know where the idea came from.

So... Turns out this was a real-life thing. Ya, in 1918. So, ya let's do it. The "Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane" or the "HSAA" for short. Want to do a Joint development project, maybe?

[Mishmahig]

Meanwhile in Servoth...

Still trying to decided what to do after all those years of military build-up. Maybe I should build thousands of underwater, and flying, Bowling Alleys all across the world!

But seriously, my nation has the military-industrial complex as well as a spying ring to supply that information, yet no war to use it in! The 1910 War was averted, so much potential lost...

Maybe I'll try to do humanitarian work or try to beat a bunch of engineering records, like 'World's Largest Zeppelin' or something like that.

Who says the 1910 War was averted? If Pavlostani joins the Compact Ahem, Mish, there's suddenly a very large power bloc spread across two continents again, which would presumably alarm Amplectoran nations, or perhaps the Zweidrachensomething, and lead to the rise of a coalition to curb Compact power.

Join the Compact? Eh? Whyever would you wish to do such a thing? We're only peaceful, kindly Mishmahigian Christians who only desire economic prosperity and cultural exchanges, banding together for external security against a harsh and cruel world. :'( No power blocs here at all, nosiree.

Of course, to ensure proper external security against said harsh and cruel world, we have to conquer it and convert it to Mishmahigian Christianity. Que sera sera, deus vult, etc, etc.

In other news, I have returned from my three week-ish journey! You may rejoice, all of you!

[Pavlostani]

Who says the 1910 War was averted? If Pavlostani joins the Compact Ahem, Mish, there's suddenly a very large power bloc spread across two continents again, which would presumably alarm Amplectoran nations, or perhaps the Zweidrachensomething, and lead to the rise of a coalition to curb Compact power.

Join the Compact? Eh? Whyever would you wish to do such a thing? We're only peaceful, kindly Mishmahigian Christians who only desire economic prosperity and cultural exchanges, banding together for external security against a harsh and cruel world. :'( No power blocs here at all, nosiree.

Of course, to ensure proper external security against said harsh and cruel world, we have to conquer it and convert it to Mishmahigian Christianity. Que sera sera, deus vult, etc, etc.

In other news, I have returned from my three week-ish journey! You may rejoice, all of you!

Certainly, you're aware of the Mishmahigan Christian coup happening in Pavlostani? The one with its own thread?

[Servoth]

Certainly, you're aware of the Mishmahigan Christian coup happening in Pavlostani? The one with its own thread?

Remind me to counter that. Counter to remind me that.

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Now pictures! That I may or may not use later. I most definitely will use the wireless backpack on the bottom, however.

[Inoroth]

Aiming the machine gun, aiming the machine gun mounted on the plane; they're both still easier done in the cockpit than a few hundred meters off and off-axis. One of these drones is never going to compete with a competent pilot in a dogfight, and I don't see how a fighter-type drone would be effective. On the other hand, using them as a flying bomb seems much more effective (and more in line with actual developments IRL). IRL, they tried to turn the planes into long-range rockets with gyroscopes and primitive navigation, launching them in friendly territory and sending them off after the enemy. The limits of the navigational technology available meant that these weapons were highly inaccurate. My system relies on a human guide to help them along and make course-corrections as needed, instead of the fire-and-forget system that was developed IRL.

As far as keeping the tether craft close, that'd be a weakness, and help to prevent it from becoming an OP weapon. But if you are already going to have an airplane go on a bombing mission or anti-ship/airship attack, it's make sense to bring along all the extra explosive power, no? That's what I am trying to accomplish. Btw, do you have any idea how far away a decent transmitter and receiver combo could realistically be operated away from one another? Is it like 1,000 ft, or would you think less? More? Those RC controller transmitters, which seem to be about a max of 300 ft for aircraft, are much smaller than what would be installed in the tether craft, but they are also more modern, so I don't know...

In the end, I'm not saying you couldn't make the airships the tether for a flying bomb, and if you want to use them that way, great. What I am saying is that I want to tether them to an airplane, and use them as a force multiplier for areoplane bombing attacks on large buildings, structures, ships and airships, and other semi-stationary or slow-moving-relative-to-the-speed-of-the-aircraft targets.

As an aside, though, I actually thought of this when I was trying to think of a counter to another idea I had: the airship ram. It's not really all that practical, but I asked myself "what if you made a half-dozen small and cheap airships, fitted them with large narwhal-like spears on the front and minimal armaments, and used them to attack and impale a larger, more expensive airship, kinda like the torpedo-boat craze that hit the navy as a means to overwhelm battleships?"

Granted, several would probably be shot down, and any impact force strong enough to impale the ship enough to bring it down would probably also damage the attacking ship irreparably, and in the end, it would probably be cheaper to just build a proper airship to counter it, or buy artillery shells with time-fuzes, or pretty much anything other than sending multiple ships on what essentially mounts up to a suicide mission, but it was a cool concept to me. I might still use it, to disastrous results -- not every military experiment can be an unrivaled success, right? But it got me thinking: how might one counter the attack? My answer was to arm the defending airships with hangars that held a few pairs of these flying bomb/tether ships, and deploy them against the attackers, to devastating effect. Just if anyone wanted to know where the idea came from.

So... Turns out this was a real-life thing. Ya, in 1918. So, ya let's do it. The "Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane" or the "HSAA" for short. Want to do a Joint development project, maybe?

Maybe as a private venture? The Inorothian Government may not be too eager towork too closely with the Servothian military, depending on how things went the previous decade with FIN and it's successor (Zieberwachendorf or however you pronounce it... I feel for the children in our universe who have to remember how to spell that for history and spelling tests and such)... but the Inorothian government would have no problem with private corporations based in Servoth that makes planes, or if Archmann Aerionautics paired up with an Inorothian firm specializing in gyroscopics, telegraphy, or even just a general engineering company to work on this product, it would at least be more palatable to military officials -- especially if the wireless equipment could be taken out and installed on other (read 'Ino-built') craft in the future with little or no modification required. Maybe a starry-eyed Inorothian entrepreneur got funding from the Inorothian military to pursue the idea, but ran into engineering problems designing aircraft, so he went to an established Servothian Aircraft firm for help?

[Servoth]

Maybe as a private venture? The Inorothian Government may not be too eager towork too closely with the Servothian military, depending on how things went the previous decade with FIN and it's successor (Zieberwachendorf or however you pronounce it... I feel for the children in our universe who have to remember how to spell that for history and spelling tests and such)... but the Inorothian government would have no problem with private corporations based in Servoth that makes planes, or if Archmann Aeronautics paired up with an Inorothian firm specializing in gyroscopics, telegraphy, or even just a general engineering company to work on this product, it would at least be more palatable to military officials -- especially if the wireless equipment could be taken out and installed on other (read 'Ino-built') craft in the future with little or no modification required. Maybe a starry-eyed Inorothian entrepreneur got funding from the Inorothian military to pursue the idea, but ran into engineering problems designing aircraft, so he went to an established Servothian Aircraft firm for help?

Zweidrachenabkommen.

"Zwei"= Two- "drachen"= Dragons'- "abkommen"= agreement. Two Dragons' Agreement. Zweidrachenabkommen. This is common in German, like really common. Like words get really fucking long, common.

After FIN's dissolution, Archmann Aeronautics was sold to 7 Companies, Inc. since FIN had extracted everything it needs (read: airplanes!) and Vitzenburg was no longer a part of the organization.

However, your plan could still work. Archmann Aeronautics would now have corporate resources at its disposal, instead of military resources.

[Inoroth]

There's a reason I don't learn German, lol... Anyways, 7 Companies sounds even better, let's do a thread about it sometime, yah?

[Servoth]

There's a reason I don't learn German, lol... Anyways, 7 Companies sounds even better, let's do a thread about it sometime, yah?

Good. Year? Month? Where? Plot?

[Inoroth]

There's a reason I don't learn German, lol... Anyways, 7 Companies sounds even better, let's do a thread about it sometime, yah?

Good. Year? Month? Where? Plot?

Well, the practical idea for something like it must happen after the discovery of flight and wireless telegraphy, so sometime after 1903 for sure... the planes would also probably have to be of a decent progression, so it's not likely that someone would be working off of the first flyer as soon as it's made. I'd say the idea for it and the first actual designs and money contracts should come no earlier than 1907-8, with Archmann becoming involved a yer o two afterwards, and a perfected prototype no sooner than 1911-1912.

[Pavlostani]

Maybe as a private venture? The Inorothian Government may not be too eager towork too closely with the Servothian military, depending on how things went the previous decade with FIN and it's successor (Zieberwachendorf or however you pronounce it... I feel for the children in our universe who have to remember how to spell that for history and spelling tests and such)... but the Inorothian government would have no problem with private corporations based in Servoth that makes planes, or if Archmann Aeronautics paired up with an Inorothian firm specializing in gyroscopics, telegraphy, or even just a general engineering company to work on this product, it would at least be more palatable to military officials -- especially if the wireless equipment could be taken out and installed on other (read 'Ino-built') craft in the future with little or no modification required. Maybe a starry-eyed Inorothian entrepreneur got funding from the Inorothian military to pursue the idea, but ran into engineering problems designing aircraft, so he went to an established Servothian Aircraft firm for help?

Zweidrachenabkommen.

"Zwei"= Two- "drachen"= Dragons'- "abkommen"= agreement. Two Dragons' Agreement. Zweidrachenabkommen. This is common in German, like really common. Like words get really fucking long, common.

I've been trying to learn German with the app Duolingo. All I've gotten out of it is the phrase, "Ich esse ein Apfel"
After FIN's dissolution, Archmann Aeronautics was sold to 7 Companies, Inc. since FIN had extracted everything it needs (read: airplanes!) and Vitzenburg was no longer a part of the organization.

However, your plan could still work. Archmann Aeronautics would now have corporate resources at its disposal, instead of military resources.

[Servoth]

Well, the practical idea for something like it must happen after the discovery of flight and wireless telegraphy, so sometime after 1903 for sure... the planes would also probably have to be of a decent progression, so it's not likely that someone would be working off of the first flyer as soon as it's made. I'd say the idea for it and the first actual designs and money contracts should come no earlier than 1907-8, with Archmann becoming involved a year or two afterwards, and a perfected prototype no sooner than 1911-1912.

Alright, so maybe May, 1910?

I've been trying to learn German with the app Duolingo. All I've gotten out of it is the phrase, "Ich esse ein Apfel"

Really, now. "I eat an apple." I personally know very little German. I know maybe enough to understand (read) some basic and butchered German, but nothing more. I didn't get the opportunity to learn it at school, so I took French instead. I use google translate when I need German words for Servothian things.

[Inoroth]

I did learn some Italian, which has been most helpful here, but I wouldn't mind living there for a few years to really get beyond comprehension and into conversation.

[Fanaglia]

Well, the practical idea for something like it must happen after the discovery of flight and wireless telegraphy, so sometime after 1903 for sure... the planes would also probably have to be of a decent progression, so it's not likely that someone would be working off of the first flyer as soon as it's made. I'd say the idea for it and the first actual designs and money contracts should come no earlier than 1907-8, with Archmann becoming involved a year or two afterwards, and a perfected prototype no sooner than 1911-1912.

Alright, so maybe May, 1910?

I've been trying to learn German with the app Duolingo. All I've gotten out of it is the phrase, "Ich esse ein Apfel"

Really, now. "I eat an apple." I personally know very little German. I know maybe enough to understand (read) some basic and butchered German, but nothing more. I didn't get the opportunity to learn it at school, so I took French instead. I use google translate when I need German words for Servothian things.

You could always consult with me; I did take seven years' worth of German, after all. You could teach me some French as a tradeoff

Btw, my favorite German "Monsterwort" (Monsterword) is "Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung," which means "speed limit," or the longest word in the German dictionary (though not the longest "Monsterwort" that can be formed while still making sense and being linguistically proper), "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft," which means "Danube Steamboat Shipping Company."

[Inoroth]

I think the German Language was invented when someone's spacebar got stuck, so they were like; "Vatdovedonow?Vevillhaftoodosomzingdiffereintvitourlanguage."

Edit* Watching the State of the Union, did anyone else notice that Biden's tie had red stripes on the blue, and Bohner's was practically purple, and that Biden's was shifted off to the left (from the camera's point of view), and Bohners to the right (again, camera's angle)? How cool is that?

[Pavlostani]

I think the German Language was invented when someone's spacebar got stuck, so they were like; "Vatdovedonow?Vevillhaftoodosomzingdiffereintvitourlanguage."

Edit* Watching the State of the Union, did anyone else notice that Biden's tie had red stripes on the blue, and Bohner's was practically purple, and that Biden's was shifted off to the left (from the camera's point of view), and Bohners to the right (again, camera's angle)? How cool is that?

Obama's State of the Union speeches are always hilarious because in each one, Boehner has a sour expression on his face.

[Inoroth]

I think the German Language was invented when someone's spacebar got stuck, so they were like; "Vatdovedonow?Vevillhaftoodosomzingdiffereintvitourlanguage."

Edit* Watching the State of the Union, did anyone else notice that Biden's tie had red stripes on the blue, and Bohner's was practically purple, and that Biden's was shifted off to the left (from the camera's point of view), and Bohners to the right (again, camera's angle)? How cool is that?

Obama's State of the Union speeches are always hilarious because in each one, Boehner has a sour expression on his face.

I love Boehner's face when the president said something he agreed with, like "I don't know if you mean what I think you mean, but yeah, I agree with that," and then he sort of halfway claps while nodding

[Servoth]

What about our RadioPlanes, Ino? Are we going to begin moving along?!