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Cyprum Xecuii
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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:15 pm

Inoroth wrote:That's interesting... artistically good... ummmmmm... yeah.


Lol if you don't really care there's no need to say anything about it, I just put it up out of time wastin'.

Procrastination is the only for me to cope with the knowledge that finals are just 'round the corner.

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:03 pm

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Inoroth wrote:That's interesting... artistically good... ummmmmm... yeah.


Lol if you don't really care there's no need to say anything about it, I just put it up out of time wastin'.

Procrastination is the only for me to cope with the knowledge that finals are just 'round the corner.


I know... it's just been pretty barren here lately (likely due to finals), so I'm desperate :P

I have empathy for you regarding finals, though... they are not fun.

EDIT* Also, I'm working on my provincial governmental systems now, and I've got the following possible types of governments lined up, and now I just need to decide which provinces would adopt which models. Any thoughts to improve the descriptions, or add another type?

Simple/Traditional Governorship: A system of government whereby the highest official(s) are appointed by the king. This is one of the oldest and most traditional provincial model, and was once a quite common form. However, it is now viewed by many as needlessly overbearing, restrictive, and too centralized for modern times, as well as a liability for the king, should his appointee fail to serve the people well. As such, few provinces still maintain it.

Complex/Limited Governorship: A system of government whereby the highest official(s) are elected in some for or another, and overseen by a governor appointed by the king. In these systems, power is shared between the two. It is viewed as a reasonable compromise between traditional governorships and the more radical systems.

Independent/Elective Aristocracy: A system of government whereby the highest official(s) come from the noble class. Some provinces may elect their officials, some may use a hereditary system, or some combination thereof. The critical difference is that the Aristocracy is not connected with the royalty, unlike the Governorships. This system is now quite rare, mirroring the waning of the noble class, but a few holdouts remain.

Conservative Republic: A system of government whereby the highest official(s) are elected in open elections with few if any class restrictions. They tend to most closely mimic the federal model, with elaborate checks and balances and representation from most of the classes. Both republican models are relatively new on the Inorothian political landscape, but have gained popularity, especially conservative republics, as the best and most fair compromise for all of the classes.

Total Republic: A system of government whereby the highest official(s) are elected in open elections with few if any class restrictions. They are streamlined versions of conservative republics, and usually do not have special concessions for any class, thus naturally favoring the commoners. This system is naturally unpopular among the nobility and church, and has struggled to gain acceptance in most provinces, who, if anything, opt for conservative republics instead. Still, a few provinces have been converted into total republics.
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secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

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The knights of kings
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Postby The knights of kings » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:01 am

One more week of exams, I can feel myself slowly dying.

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:35 am

Don't do it man! Don't go towards the light! :p

Anyways, here's a little something I whipped up out of boredom:

Inorothian rations of the late 1870's through the early 1900's (when this nation is largely set) are divided into three categories: the Garrison Ration, the Travel Ration, and the Field Ration. Garrison Rations are to be consumed whenever a unit is expected to remain in a base or position for an extended period of time, and are shipped in bulk in large crates and barrels from supply depots further in the rear, to be supplemented with whatever is locally available when applicable. They are the freshest of the three and can be quite varied in their composition, but ideally, per person per day, should include 20 oz of meat or fish, 20 oz of flour, 5 oz potatoes, 5 oz vegetables, 4 oz cheese, 2 oz sweetener (sugar, honey, molasses, etc) or fruit, at least some coffee or alcohol or tea, salt and pepper, and a candle. Travel Rations are to be used for pre-planned movements from one secure area to another, with little danger of action or encounter with the enemy immediately expected. They are simply Garrison Rations prepared in advance, usually in the form of hard breads, smoked meats, and pre-made stews, designed to be prepared in field kitchens that could be set up and torn down quickly so as not to hamper the speedy movement of the force. Field Rations are designed to be used when a force is in close proximity to the enemy, or in any circumstance where cooking is deemed dangerous, too great an expense of time, or downright impossible, such as forced marches or when fire fuel must be conserved. Commanders are allowed considerable leeway in what can be issued, and though ideally Field Rations should consist of the same portions as the other two rations, this rarely happens. Usually there is meat and bread, but the other accouterments may or may not be included, depending on availability. Everything is packaged, in cans, tins, burlap sacks, or some other way, and each individual soldier must be able to carry their own, often two or three days-worth at a time.
Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

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Postby Fanaglia » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:31 am

Sorry I've been so inactive, guys. I've been sick as a dog and was actually in the hospital over the weekend, plus I still have no computer. But I'm rallying the white blood cell troops and might be able to post something from the XBox soonish (posting from my cash register at work right now lol). I'm hoping for a new computer for Christmas, too, so that'll help a lot. I miss you guys!
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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:16 am

Fanaglia wrote:Sorry I've been so inactive, guys. I've been sick as a dog and was actually in the hospital over the weekend, plus I still have no computer. But I'm rallying the white blood cell troops and might be able to post something from the XBox soonish (posting from my cash register at work right now lol). I'm hoping for a new computer for Christmas, too, so that'll help a lot. I miss you guys!


We miss you too, so get well soon!
Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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The knights of kings
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Postby The knights of kings » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:54 pm

Fanaglia wrote:Sorry I've been so inactive, guys. I've been sick as a dog and was actually in the hospital over the weekend, plus I still have no computer. But I'm rallying the white blood cell troops and might be able to post something from the XBox soonish (posting from my cash register at work right now lol). I'm hoping for a new computer for Christmas, too, so that'll help a lot. I miss you guys!


Fan Im pretty sure you have a chronic case of shitty luck.

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:36 pm

The knights of kings wrote:
Fanaglia wrote:Sorry I've been so inactive, guys. I've been sick as a dog and was actually in the hospital over the weekend, plus I still have no computer. But I'm rallying the white blood cell troops and might be able to post something from the XBox soonish (posting from my cash register at work right now lol). I'm hoping for a new computer for Christmas, too, so that'll help a lot. I miss you guys!


Fan Im pretty sure you have a chronic case of shitty luck.


But we alreaady knew that... it's canon :p
Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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The knights of kings
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Postby The knights of kings » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:49 pm

Inoroth wrote:
The knights of kings wrote:
Fan Im pretty sure you have a chronic case of shitty luck.


But we alreaady knew that... it's canon :p


Too bad it's not covered by insurance!

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:38 pm

The knights of kings wrote:
Inoroth wrote:
But we alreaady knew that... it's canon :p


Too bad it's not covered by insurance!


Maybe she should get 'bad luck' insurance :p

EDIT* Okay, so I was driving around today and came to a point where I needed to make a left-hand turn across a lane of traffic, which was pretty full of cars. I'm sitting patiently waiting for a break of some sort, but nothing comes along. Then all of a sudden, this car stops, it's driver is a man in a santa clause suit, and he waves me on, despite having right-of-way. #faith-in-christmas-restored

I even wrote a song verse in his honor, to be mentally played as a twangy guitar country song sung with a heavy southern drawl:

"Santa clause, I had to pause, when you went and let me get over. Santa clause, what I wondered was, whether you were drunk or sober. It doesn't maaaaater though, because you let me go, yielded your right of way, and it's all that I needed today. Here's to my new found faith in christmas... santa clause."

EDIT*2 Been having so much fun with the new 'Rift Beta' :)
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Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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The knights of kings
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Postby The knights of kings » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:42 pm

Exams...theyre done.....its over....


Rift is awesome...

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:01 pm

The knights of kings wrote:Exams...theyre done.....its over....


Rift is awesome...


I love the banners... wish I'd get a few easter egg issues to unlock a few more though.
Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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Postby Sotubigal » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:54 pm

I'm going to be extremely busy for some time, so, sorry if I don't drop in as much as I'd want to.

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:16 am

Sotubigal wrote:I'm going to be extremely busy for some time, so, sorry if I don't drop in as much as I'd want to.


Seems you're not the only one.
Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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Postby Maashinia » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:48 pm

Ugh being a mostly full-time manager at a retail store during the holidays plus being a full-time student with finals is the flaming ships to my nationstates armada.

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:43 pm

Maashinia wrote:Ugh being a mostly full-time manager at a retail store during the holidays plus being a full-time student with finals is the flaming ships to my nationstates armada.


Funny, you sound exactly like a good friend of mine... minus the nationstates.

EDIT* Lol, I just discovered a way to randomly generate intelectual-sounding academic papers... sure some of you already know of this, but it's a revolutionary discovery for me.
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Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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Postby Cygnar » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:29 pm

Inoroth wrote:
Maashinia wrote:Ugh being a mostly full-time manager at a retail store during the holidays plus being a full-time student with finals is the flaming ships to my nationstates armada.


Funny, you sound exactly like a good friend of mine... minus the nationstates.

EDIT* Lol, I just discovered a way to randomly generate intelectual-sounding academic papers... sure some of you already know of this, but it's a revolutionary discovery for me.

Maybe..he is your friend and you never knew it :O
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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:43 pm

Cygnar wrote:
Inoroth wrote:
Funny, you sound exactly like a good friend of mine... minus the nationstates.

EDIT* Lol, I just discovered a way to randomly generate intelectual-sounding academic papers... sure some of you already know of this, but it's a revolutionary discovery for me.

Maybe..he is your friend and you never knew it :O


My friend works in food, not retail... but maaaaaybe?

EDIT* The latest installment of Inorothian map-making prowess:

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Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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Postby Sarmandar » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:39 pm

Inoroth wrote:
Maashinia wrote:Ugh being a mostly full-time manager at a retail store during the holidays plus being a full-time student with finals is the flaming ships to my nationstates armada.


Funny, you sound exactly like a good friend of mine... minus the nationstates.

EDIT* Lol, I just discovered a way to randomly generate intelectual-sounding academic papers... sure some of you already know of this, but it's a revolutionary discovery for me.


Oh my god, I love that thing it is hilarious. Completely exposes the cancer that is postmodern academia.

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Postby Servoth » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:36 pm

Sarmandar wrote:Oh my god, I love that thing it is hilarious. Completely exposes the cancer that is postmodern academia.


What?
How did I get this gay?

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The knights of kings
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Postby The knights of kings » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:13 pm

After a long break from the world following exams, I have returned! Now is break time and post making time! Whooooooooooooo

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:09 pm

Yaaays to activity!

@Sarmandars -- That's exactly why they made it.

@Servoth -- He's referring to my post about randomly-generated academic papers that are utter non-sense, but sound so technical that often the experts peer-reviewing them don't want to admit they don't understand and/or don't actually bother reading the text, so it gets through the system. It's 'social science'... or a way to do a masters thesis when you only have an hour before it's due and you haven't started yet.

@Prinnia -- Bring. It. On.
Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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The knights of kings
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Postby The knights of kings » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:45 pm

NOOOOOOO SONY DONT LET THE NORTH KOREANS WIN! :(

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:53 pm

The knights of kings wrote:NOOOOOOO SONY DONT LET THE NORTH KOREANS WIN! :(
I know, right? In other news, the USA and Cuba are now friends, and FARC is done fighting in Columbia.

EDIT* Completed a section on Inorothian Peerage, which has been needing to be done for some time:

Peerage in Inoroth:

Prince/Princess/Archduke/Archduchess - Members of the Royal Family and Savoy House, including extended relations, form the highest level of peerage in Inoroth. Holders of this title are qualified to rule Duchies and hold Governorships, but are generally discouraged from running for the Gentleman's House.

Duke/Duchess - Second-highest level of peerage, though nearly on par with princes and princesses. Holders of this title are qualified to rule Duchies, run for the Gentleman's House, as well as hold Governorships and Lordships. Most of the powerful members of the Gentleman's House and nearly always the Grand Premier come from this level of peerage.

Marquess/Marchioness - This third-highest level of peerage is a sort of nebulous 'catch-all' category for those deserving of peerage above the level of counts, but not quite to the level of a duke. Holders of this level of peerage are qualified to run for the Gentleman's House and hold various higher levels of the bureaucracy . It has largely fallen out of favor, being largely replaced in function by the Burgess Class. There is no land for a Marquess to rule, and hereditary bureaucratic positions are now very rare. Still, a skilled Marquess has many employment advantages and even a relatively average individual retains a level of honor.

Count/Countess - Third lowest level of peerage, holders of this title are qualified to rule counties and districts, and are considered by many the first 'real' noblemen and women. Holders of this title are qualified to rule Counties and run for the Gentleman's House (though few do). Every County has a count or countess, but their powers vary widely from total domination in precious few cases, to little more than figurehead status in a larger country government, with plenty of less drastic power-sharing compromises with commoners and burgesses occurring in most cases.

Baron/Baroness - Second lowest level of peerage, holders of this title are qualified to hold estates and govern Baronies, essentially subdivisions of counties composed of a cluster of small towns and/or villages. They may not run for the Gentleman's House, but are usually qualified to run for the Provincial equivalent, when applicable. In modern times, many Baronies have become little more than symbolic positions with no real power, some have been 'republicanized', meaning that multiple classes have been given a portion of the authority, while a few have been abolished outright; few remain as forceful manifestations of the nobility, as was originally conceived.

Cavaliere/Dame - The only title that may or may not be a Hereditary Title, and is the lowest level of peerage. Holders of this title are not officially qualified to hold any positions of power over others, though often some a manor and some land is granted to the family, usually with servants.
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Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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The knights of kings
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Postby The knights of kings » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:43 pm

Il start working on some posts, though Den of Vipers is hinging on Fan at this point. Then move on to working on some factbook stuff!

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