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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:55 pm

Ithartania wrote:Peru
The 300,000 Troops advancing on Peru run up against the main force of 400,000 Canadians and a massive battle ensues. Many of the USLA forces are literally consumed in the CIAF's numerous napalm attacks, and with Naval Forces in the Pacific, the USLA suffers many losses from the constant thud of tomahawks and naval guns. The Canadian Air Defences quickly clear the skies of many USLA air units and opens the skies for CIAF air dominance. The CIAF initially lose many planes, but quickly gain the upper hand and manage to kill some of the USLAAF's most advanced pilots. After three weeks of heavy fighting the CIA manage to hold Lima and continue their advance.

Bolivia/ Paraguay
250,000 troops punch through the USLA defences and manage to advance into Brazil. They take many of their objectives on the ground and the CIAF manages to neutralize many USLAAF fighter bases and other defence positions. Another force of 220,000 take the USLA forces by moderate surprise and take out the weakly defended nation of Paraguay. Many of the USLA bases are taken within the first 6 days and the CIA creates a massive defence around the nation.

Chile/ Argentina
Canadian Forces storm into Western Argentina and despite heavy fighting initially manage to punch a hole in their defence and over run them. They then take the Provinces of Santa Cruz, Chubut, Rio Negro, Mendoza, San Juan, jujuy, Salta, La Roja, and Catamacra. There is much fighting in many of the provinces, but the Canadian forces continue to be reinforced by advancing units and ample air support.

South America is DEAD
South America IS DEAD. The Amazon River is poisoned. the radiation from all the tactical weaponry used is building up. The Amazon Rain Forest is Scorched. Your farms are destroyed and the soil isn't healthy so you can't farm anything. It takes FOOD to sustain an army of 300,000 or a million or whatever. That FOOD supply is dwindling! Plus your tanks, planes, cities, communications need power; Which I've taken out. So you're stuck without power and though you may feed some, MANY are without. Plus my bombing campaigns (I'll admit I've lost many bombers) have destroyed many cities and killed many civilians- people only get motivated by bombings and nationalism for so long.
As far as the CE is considered, you lost ....

PERU
The three hundred thousand from Brazil and Venezuela come to back up the war weary liberators of Lima, and despite heavy casualties, the city is slowly falling. The weakened air force is to be moved into Brazilian air hangers and will begin there repairs, and mass production.
My retort
Honestly, I've already destroyed the Amazon from both WWV and just my own industry, plus we have got old Ethanol reserves we are using, food has never been a major issue since we are no longer producing for the needs of the world since can't trade the food, I am taking everything you say so far as Canadian propaganda, a hint of truth, nothing else.
Argentina
What Canada believed to be the main line in Argentina was only the defense line, soon one hundred thousand come in and destroy the attackers for the most part. They need to realize, we are only using a half of our forces and many are still throughout our states.
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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:56 pm

Ithartania wrote:Gentlemen, I'm going to share with you the EXACT message I shared through a personal channel with th leader of the USLA. Read it, and then tell me if I was the TRUE aggressor in this war.

"From the Highest order of the Canadian Imperial Government,

Your little war for "Liberation" or whatever was a foolish mistake which in the end will only hurt you.
Look at what You've caused! You've literally lost the Amazon Rainforest and the many species that lived in them, your people are needlessly starving, your forces are being killed by the tens of thousands and your nations are by far MUCH more scarred than seen during the UK- LAAD War.

The People living in Peru and Chile Loved their lives. They loved western goods and western culture and truly felt like they had a future in their new countries. They had jobs, homes, and families; and now because of your STUPIDITY! They've lost most if not all oft that!
You can hide the figures of your casualties or choose to neglect the basic facts of war and human biology, but we don't and we realized that people loved their lives in occupied Canada.

Plus, We didn't start the war moron! That was your Gringo buddy up north! Plus what did we do when the war ended? Did we gang rape and torture people and steal all their resources and leave them out in the wilderness to die? NO, we built schools and hospitals and gave them jobs and increased their social flexibility! Something which is the basis for the socialist movement.

So when you want to blame someone for this war go look in the GODDAMN MIRROR!

' Fact this wasn't a war for "liberation", it was a war for conquest- And you know it......"

Doesn't that sound fishy? Every one loved there lives... thats why you admitted to an insurgency throughout the captured territories!
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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:56 pm

Ithartania wrote:Gentlemen, I'm going to share with you the EXACT message I shared through a personal channel with th leader of the USLA. Read it, and then tell me if I was the TRUE aggressor in this war.

"From the Highest order of the Canadian Imperial Government,

Your little war for "Liberation" or whatever was a foolish mistake which in the end will only hurt you.
Look at what You've caused! You've literally lost the Amazon Rainforest and the many species that lived in them, your people are needlessly starving, your forces are being killed by the tens of thousands and your nations are by far MUCH more scarred than seen during the UK- LAAD War.

The People living in Peru and Chile Loved their lives. They loved western goods and western culture and truly felt like they had a future in their new countries. They had jobs, homes, and families; and now because of your STUPIDITY! They've lost most if not all oft that!
You can hide the figures of your casualties or choose to neglect the basic facts of war and human biology, but we don't and we realized that people loved their lives in occupied Canada.

Plus, We didn't start the war moron! That was your Gringo buddy up north! Plus what did we do when the war ended? Did we gang rape and torture people and steal all their resources and leave them out in the wilderness to die? NO, we built schools and hospitals and gave them jobs and increased their social flexibility! Something which is the basis for the socialist movement.

So when you want to blame someone for this war go look in the GODDAMN MIRROR!

' Fact this wasn't a war for "liberation", it was a war for conquest- And you know it......"


That make sense
except you still wasted the amazon river, completely, I mean like its to the point where the GKR would only attempt that in sheer desperation In a defensive war.
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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:57 pm

I attempted to buy Peru and warned them that this would happen, people realize that right?
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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:58 pm

Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:I attempted to buy Peru and warned them that this would happen, people realize that right?


flashback....
Yep
No offense, but even without the radiation, you were getting defeated USLA.
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Does this look like i was the enemy....

Postby Ithartania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:03 pm

Gentlemen, I believe that you are all bright and noble individuals; I want you to see these past posts and tell me if it appeared that ANYONE in the Canadian South States had an issue with the CE or if the CSS seemded to be oppressed or threatened by the CE.

Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:03 am Forum: International IncidentsTopic: The Cold War (IC)Replies: 2278Views: 8193

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Canada and Weed

Canadian Southern States

After many years of fighting and failed attempts to have the Canadian Empire leave Peru and Chile, the LAAD/USLA insurgents have officially stopped their campaign of terror and are retreating into Brazil and Argentina.
During their attacks they killed 1,435 CIA troops and wounded another 2,133.
2,615 Civilians were killed and another 3,000 were wounded.
Canadian Companies continue to expand in Peru and Chile and many of the ancient natives have adopted more Canadian customs and traditions. English has officially become the most spoken language and many Chileans and
Peruvians leave to Canada after graduating high school.
The military presence in the CSS has been reduced to 18,000 troops and 4,500 tanks.
Many new Marijuana farms are being cultivated in Peru and Chile to be exported back to Canada.
Unemployment in the CSS is a renowned 3.2%


Canadian Empire and cannabis

To help ease the stress many have felt from the Nuclear wars and other conflicts; the Canadian government has legalized the use, sale, and growth of marijuana. Depression and suicide rates have dropped by 80% and Canadians are now some of the most happy and laid back people in the world. The C.E. will sell the substance to any countries that want to legalize it and buy it


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Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:14 am Forum: International IncidentsTopic: The Cold War (IC)Replies: 2278Views: 8193

Green Miracle

Canadian Cannabis is becoming so widespread and so therapeutic that almost 90% of people with terminal illnesses and Soldiers with PTSD are given it. It has now become A LAW to give all people about to be executed some form of cannabis, and the math, science, and Especially the Art departments of many Canadian schools have seen grades Suspiciously rise by a shocking 130%!!

Heart attacks and general stress has also gone down by an amazing 132%

4 out of 5 Politicians in the Canadian Imperial Council even admit to using the substance on a regular bases.

The CSS economy BALLOONS with the expansion of marijuana use in Canada and the C.E. plans to use the new revenue to create 3 space ports, 2 in Peru and 1 in Chile. Many Chilean farmers are even becoming rich "Over night".
Drug crimes in Canada and Peru and Chile have also gone down by 55%

We, The Canadian Empire LOVE the CSS and it's people and feel a Strong and authentic duty to protect them and the new life we've given to them. If the USLA is jealous because of what we've don't and what they couldn't then that's them!

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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:05 pm

I tried making an interesting statistics for each country's population (or what it would most likely be, I need some to correct me in ways (but no godmod) and I need the territories of nations that I don't know much of )
GKR Territories: probably by my guess, around 550 million (400 from southern India)
PRC: Probably around 1.5-2 billion
USSR: maybe 600 million to 800 million
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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:06 pm

UED wrote:
Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:I attempted to buy Peru and warned them that this would happen, people realize that right?


flashback....
Yep
No offense, but even without the radiation, you were getting defeated USLA.

How am I being defeated? He doesn't want to admit it, but by this point his air force has to be crippled with only maybe fifty bombers left, support for an end to the war must be crazy in Canada, we have food, we have power, and we are slowly taking Peru. I am not losing this war, the air raids alone for the most part have to have been destroyed by the shear fact that he is going into my territory to do this. I'll take the destruction of the two cities, but up to now it looks like I have only been winning.
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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:10 pm

Lets negotiate an end:
A. Complete surrender of Peru
B. Complete recall of troop movements in Argentina, Brazil and Bolivia
C. You pay to fix the damages currently done to South America
D. An end to bombing campaigns

KIA: 100,000
MIA: 5,000

OOC: this is of course with the assumption that damages are not actually as high as Canada reports.
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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:11 pm

Ithartania wrote:Gentlemen, I believe that you are all bright and noble individuals; I want you to see these past posts and tell me if it appeared that ANYONE in the Canadian South States had an issue with the CE or if the CSS seemded to be oppressed or threatened by the CE.

Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:03 am Forum: International IncidentsTopic: The Cold War (IC)Replies: 2278Views: 8193

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Canada and Weed

Canadian Southern States

After many years of fighting and failed attempts to have the Canadian Empire leave Peru and Chile, the LAAD/USLA insurgents have officially stopped their campaign of terror and are retreating into Brazil and Argentina.
During their attacks they killed 1,435 CIA troops and wounded another 2,133.
2,615 Civilians were killed and another 3,000 were wounded.
Canadian Companies continue to expand in Peru and Chile and many of the ancient natives have adopted more Canadian customs and traditions. English has officially become the most spoken language and many Chileans and
Peruvians leave to Canada after graduating high school.
The military presence in the CSS has been reduced to 18,000 troops and 4,500 tanks.
Many new Marijuana farms are being cultivated in Peru and Chile to be exported back to Canada.
Unemployment in the CSS is a renowned 3.2%


Canadian Empire and cannabis

To help ease the stress many have felt from the Nuclear wars and other conflicts; the Canadian government has legalized the use, sale, and growth of marijuana. Depression and suicide rates have dropped by 80% and Canadians are now some of the most happy and laid back people in the world. The C.E. will sell the substance to any countries that want to legalize it and buy it


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Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:14 am Forum: International IncidentsTopic: The Cold War (IC)Replies: 2278Views: 8193

Green Miracle

Canadian Cannabis is becoming so widespread and so therapeutic that almost 90% of people with terminal illnesses and Soldiers with PTSD are given it. It has now become A LAW to give all people about to be executed some form of cannabis, and the math, science, and Especially the Art departments of many Canadian schools have seen grades Suspiciously rise by a shocking 130%!!

Heart attacks and general stress has also gone down by an amazing 132%

4 out of 5 Politicians in the Canadian Imperial Council even admit to using the substance on a regular bases.

The CSS economy BALLOONS with the expansion of marijuana use in Canada and the C.E. plans to use the new revenue to create 3 space ports, 2 in Peru and 1 in Chile. Many Chilean farmers are even becoming rich "Over night".
Drug crimes in Canada and Peru and Chile have also gone down by 55%

We, The Canadian Empire LOVE the CSS and it's people and feel a Strong and authentic duty to protect them and the new life we've given to them. If the USLA is jealous because of what we've don't and what they couldn't then that's them!


Well, to your subjects the Canadian is a great nation.
To your enemies you are ruthless

So your both an angel and a devil, that's the GKR's view.
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Postby Ithartania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:17 pm

Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:
UED wrote:
flashback....
Yep
No offense, but even without the radiation, you were getting defeated USLA.

How am I being defeated? He doesn't want to admit it, but by this point his air force has to be crippled with only maybe fifty bombers left, support for an end to the war must be crazy in Canada, we have food, we have power, and we are slowly taking Peru. I am not losing this war, the air raids alone for the most part have to have been destroyed by the shear fact that he is going into my territory to do this. I'll take the destruction of the two cities, but up to now it looks like I have only been winning.


Ok, so say I was "losing".

What did you win?

If I had Peru and Canada, the Amazon would still be clean, the environment intact, trade would be productive, millions of people still alive....

Now that you supposedly "win", the environment is in ruins, millions are dead, people are without power, people are starving, and you win two more places to put a pin on...

Hell, even if I "lose" I get to go back home.

This IS your home..... and because of your imperial thirsts for "liberation", it's ruined. You win no money, you win very few land, and now you have to rebuild something that WOULDN'T have been broken (Wasting money)....

So I ask..... Did you really win?
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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:18 pm

Ithartania wrote:
Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:How am I being defeated? He doesn't want to admit it, but by this point his air force has to be crippled with only maybe fifty bombers left, support for an end to the war must be crazy in Canada, we have food, we have power, and we are slowly taking Peru. I am not losing this war, the air raids alone for the most part have to have been destroyed by the shear fact that he is going into my territory to do this. I'll take the destruction of the two cities, but up to now it looks like I have only been winning.


Ok, so say I was "losing".

What did you win?

If I had Peru and Canada, the Amazon would still be clean, the environment intact, trade would be productive, millions of people still alive....

Now that you supposedly "win", the environment is in ruins, millions are dead, people are without power, people are starving, and you win two more places to put a pin on...

Hell, even if I "lose" I get to go back home.

This IS your home..... and because of your imperial thirsts for "liberation", it's ruined. You win no money, you win very few land, and now you have to rebuild something that WOULDN'T have been broken (Wasting money)....

So I ask..... Did you really win?


It would be a pyrrhic victory, so a yes and no for south America.
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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:19 pm

Ithartania wrote:
Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:How am I being defeated? He doesn't want to admit it, but by this point his air force has to be crippled with only maybe fifty bombers left, support for an end to the war must be crazy in Canada, we have food, we have power, and we are slowly taking Peru. I am not losing this war, the air raids alone for the most part have to have been destroyed by the shear fact that he is going into my territory to do this. I'll take the destruction of the two cities, but up to now it looks like I have only been winning.


Ok, so say I was "losing".

What did you win?

If I had Peru and Canada, the Amazon would still be clean, the environment intact, trade would be productive, millions of people still alive....

Now that you supposedly "win", the environment is in ruins, millions are dead, people are without power, people are starving, and you win two more places to put a pin on...

Hell, even if I "lose" I get to go back home.

This IS your home..... and because of your imperial thirsts for "liberation", it's ruined. You win no money, you win very few land, and now you have to rebuild something that WOULDN'T have been broken (Wasting money)....

So I ask..... Did you really win?


I win, the glory in knowing, that I won without committing horrible atrocities, that I won without appeasing my people with drugs, that I won without falling to the same level as you have.
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Postby Mifan » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:21 pm

Who knows how to make a map, cause I want to make on for this thread.
Uh, they're called green hearts.

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Postby Ithartania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:21 pm

We'll leave but note this.

The rivers of blood..... the salty tears..... the deafening cries of loss....... Is ALL on your hands.

And if you think this was ALL of my army, huh

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Postby Tuva SSR » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:23 pm

Ithartania wrote:
Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:How am I being defeated? He doesn't want to admit it, but by this point his air force has to be crippled with only maybe fifty bombers left, support for an end to the war must be crazy in Canada, we have food, we have power, and we are slowly taking Peru. I am not losing this war, the air raids alone for the most part have to have been destroyed by the shear fact that he is going into my territory to do this. I'll take the destruction of the two cities, but up to now it looks like I have only been winning.


Ok, so say I was "losing".

What did you win?

If I had Peru and Canada, the Amazon would still be clean, the environment intact, trade would be productive, millions of people still alive....

Now that you supposedly "win", the environment is in ruins, millions are dead, people are without power, people are starving, and you win two more places to put a pin on...

Hell, even if I "lose" I get to go back home.

This IS your home..... and because of your imperial thirsts for "liberation", it's ruined. You win no money, you win very few land, and now you have to rebuild something that WOULDN'T have been broken (Wasting money)....

So I ask..... Did you really win?

You have a point.
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Meanwhile, GKR economy flourishes

Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:24 pm

Social Security

The GKR has a constantly rising, large population, the GKR citizens are hardworking and though they have heavy taxes, they have many benefits. The GKR Social Security Program is a success, as many GKR citizens retire and receive large amounts of government money for their retirement.

Unemployment

The GKR unemployment is now around 0.1%, as the government ruthlessly hunts down hobos and unemployed people and send them to some sort of job, ranging from laborers to reality shows like "My life as a hobo". The GKR works furiously to end unemployment once and for all!

Welfare

The GKR has now one of the world's best welfare systems in the world. Citizens who are in the poor income category (14%) are given money ranging from 1000-5000 US dollars. The GKR's poor really aren't that poor, though without the welfare they would be.
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Postby Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:24 pm

Ithartania wrote:We'll leave but note this.

The rivers of blood..... the salty tears..... the deafening cries of loss....... Is ALL on your hands.

And if you think this was ALL of my army, huh

This was around four hundred thousand in this defense, your population is only seventy million at your peak, worst you can get is one million. Plus we have undoubtedly killed more actual soldiers than you.
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Mifan wrote:Who knows how to make a map, cause I want to make on for this thread.
Uh, they're called green hearts.

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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:25 pm

Mifan wrote:
Mifan wrote:Who knows how to make a map, cause I want to make on for this thread.


I don't know
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Postby Great Bear Lake » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:26 pm

How can I help

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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:27 pm

Great Bear Lake wrote:How can I help


We need a map of the entire world in this IC, it is really complicated though
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Postby Ithartania » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:28 pm

Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:
Ithartania wrote:
Ok, so say I was "losing".

What did you win?

If I had Peru and Canada, the Amazon would still be clean, the environment intact, trade would be productive, millions of people still alive....

Now that you supposedly "win", the environment is in ruins, millions are dead, people are without power, people are starving, and you win two more places to put a pin on...

Hell, even if I "lose" I get to go back home.

This IS your home..... and because of your imperial thirsts for "liberation", it's ruined. You win no money, you win very few land, and now you have to rebuild something that WOULDN'T have been broken (Wasting money)....

So I ask..... Did you really win?


I win, the glory in knowing, that I won without committing horrible atrocities, that I won without appeasing my people with drugs, that I won without falling to the same level as you have.


It's nice to see that despite ALL (and yes I mean all, even those which you've conveniently swept under the cover such as those dying from radiation, hunger, exposure and a whole slew of issues) ALL the losses you've suffered, Honor wasn't one of them.

"Honor is no more associated with fools
than snow with summer or rain with harvest" Proverbs 26:1

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Postby Tuva SSR » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:28 pm

Look,I agree with everything Canada is saying.But if you (Canada) don't withdraw,your commanding general is going bye-bye.
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Postby UED » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:29 pm

Ithartania wrote:
Democratic Peoples Republic of Tyrrania wrote:
I win, the glory in knowing, that I won without committing horrible atrocities, that I won without appeasing my people with drugs, that I won without falling to the same level as you have.


It's nice to see that despite ALL (and yes I mean all, even those which you've conveniently swept under the cover such as those dying from radiation, hunger, exposure and a whole slew of issues) ALL the losses you've suffered, Honor wasn't one of them.

"Honor is no more associated with fools
than snow with summer or rain with harvest" Proverbs 26:1


Snow in summer: Russia!!!
Political and religious views don't define whether you are a good or bad person, unless you want to actively hurt everyone who doesn't believe what you say.

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