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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:51 pm

The Laxus Union wrote:Do you all feel that a terran civilizations should originate from earth? I personally despise the idea of RPing in the same galaxy as earth. I want to create a unique terran that is a little more modified and comes from a different planet.

Do so as you want, I cherry pick people because thats how I want to RP with this nation, I think it takes more cooperation and all that, yadda yadda.

But for you, with a universe of multiple Earths and multiple copies of systems and all that, do so if you want, it would make more sense.

I never got that really..Sera from Gears, Remanent from RWBY, I am sure there are other things were Humanity didn't come from Earth.

That would be much better if you ask me, I say go with it, it could make for an interesting history and experience, especially if you feel like making a whole new timeline for the Human history.

After all who says Einstein was the only man to create the theory of relativity, maybe yours can be a woman. There is a lot you can do, so much history to fill, I say go with it.

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The Laxus Union wrote:Do you all feel that a terran civilizations should originate from earth? I personally despise the idea of RPing in the same galaxy as earth. I want to create a unique terran that is a little more modified and comes from a different planet.

Well... The root "terr" means earth, if not Earth.


Earth can also mean the ground, the very soil.
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Postby Star Trek America » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:51 pm

There is no root-word. Terra is simply Latin for "Land".

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Star Trek America wrote:There is no root-word. Terra is simply Latin for "Land".

This as well
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Postby Dreadful Sagittarius » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:53 pm

Caecuser wrote:Quick question:

Do people usually have a type of ship constructed around a single massive weapon - or stick with ships oriented around having as many different weapon systems as possible with less power but greater variety and adaptability? Examples that come to mind of the former type would be a huge railgun (like the Macs off of Halo, just to give an example) or a high-powered laser.


I myself prefer turrets, if only for that 'Age of Dreadnoughts' feel. Typical Nautikon vessels will be armed around either large calibre cannon and point defence, or missile tubes and point defence. A lot of the capital warships (First three Titan variants and the Muse class) will carry fighters because of doctrinal inertia, but they're never used for anti-ship work.
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Postby Mini Miehm » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:55 pm

The Laxus Union wrote:Do you all feel that a terran civilizations should originate from earth? I personally despise the idea of RPing in the same galaxy as earth. I want to create a unique terran that is a little more modified and comes from a different planet.


It would be hard for a terran civilization not to originate from...terra. That being said, many people have human civilizations that can only vaguely or incredibly distantly trace their roots back to earth. Extragalactic holdings are generally frowned on in FT though. So... On the one hand, human civilizations can exist outside of earth. The odds of identical evolution in an entirely different galaxy are pretty low. So...yeah.

To summarize. You could do that. The number of people not playing in the MWG is essentially zero though, so good like finding anyone to roleplay with.
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:56 pm

Star Trek America wrote:There is no root-word. Terra is simply Latin for "Land".

I am led to believe that every Latin word (nouns at least) has a root and an ending. In this case, I venture to say that terr- is the root, and -a is a feminine nominative singular ending of the first declension. My instructor said that a noun's root is genitive singular (terrae) with the ending removed, leaving terr-.
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Postby SquareDisc City » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:57 pm

There are any number of ways to handwave a human civilization originating from a planet other than Earth. You only need an explicit Earth connection if you want real Earth stuff in your backstory. In my case geography's a factor; Zealandia could be transplanted to another planet, but then it would kind of lose its point.

If you don't want to RP in the same galaxy as Earth, though, then you'd better find another community because for better or worse NSFT is based in the Milky Way.

On a sidenote, when it comes to naming your civilization's homeworld it makes sense for the name to be the same as the word for ground or something similar in the local language. Not a requirement, but worth thinking about especially if you come to conlang.
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Postby Auman » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:58 pm

Just because Earth exists in the setting does not mean you have to recognize it as the birthplace of mankind. I don't and I get along just fine. Earth as it stands is a fractal nightmare... To me, it's creepy and empty.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:59 pm

Auman wrote:Just because Earth exists in the setting does not mean you have to recognize it as the birthplace of mankind. I don't and I get along just fine. Earth as it stands is a fractal nightmare... To me, it's creepy and empty.

That, its why I avoid FT "Prime" as it is really.

I would be willing to do cross universal stuff, but the whole multi Earth thing is just depressing and meaningless to me as a setting.
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Postby Star Trek America » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:00 pm

We had many an argument over your views of Earth in the last thread, they do not need to be reiterated here.

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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:01 pm

Star Trek America wrote:We had many an argument over your views of Earth in the last thread, they do not need to be reiterated here.

Did we?

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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:01 pm

Star Trek America wrote:Arguably they are for the benefit of sapient development. We would still be appetizers for T-Rex were it not for a combination of hypervolcanism and a big damn rock.

We humans wouldn't exist without Chixhulub (I think that's how it is spelled).
Furthermore, what does the group think about two things:
1. Shields using plasma held in magnetic fields, and 3-meter-thick titanium-tungsten-vanadium-chromium-iridium alloy, beneath ablative plastic, and above 13 sheets of graphene sandwiching several layers of carbon nanotubes, with another layer of tungsten-iridium carbide alloy below, and finally plastic underneath. This is my standard ship armoring system.
Furthermore, the shields are supplied by plasma from a network of plasma turrets over the hull, which can act as very effective weapons.
2. An FTL engine that magnetically compresses 238,000,000 atoms with 238 protons each into a space the size of a proton, and then blasts it out at 6,768,919.72 times c, the speed of light. That's what I use as my nation's FTL drive; I call it the Dark Energy Drive.
Star Trek America wrote:There is no root-word. Terra is simply Latin for "Land".

There is a Proto-Indo-European root word, *ters-, which means "dry" and derives to tērra, tērrae in Latin and thirst in English.
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SquareDisc City wrote:There are any number of ways to handwave a human civilization originating from a planet other than Earth. You only need an explicit Earth connection if you want real Earth stuff in your backstory. In my case geography's a factor; Zealandia could be transplanted to another planet, but then it would kind of lose its point.

If you don't want to RP in the same galaxy as Earth, though, then you'd better find another community because for better or worse NSFT is based in the Milky Way.

On a sidenote, when it comes to naming your civilization's homeworld it makes sense for the name to be the same as the word for ground or something similar in the local language. Not a requirement, but worth thinking about especially if you come to conlang.

There's Vaxon....

Star Trek America wrote:We had many an argument over your views of Earth in the last thread, they do not need to be reiterated here.


It wasn't really arguments as people not liking that I wanted advice despite not wanting to RP with them at large.

For some reason people just didn't want me to cherry pick for this nation, everyone lost there.

But why make a mention of it, I am just agreeing with the above poster, it is just weird, nonsensical and it is depressing.

In other words Creepy and empty, so are you going to argue against Auman? How about you don't continue further? Because the post doesn't do much besides remind people of a pointless and tiring debate.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:04 pm

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Star Trek America wrote:We had many an argument over your views of Earth in the last thread, they do not need to be reiterated here.

Did we?

No, it was more bitching in my opinion, I was bitching, a couple of others were bitching, it was a pretty useless, non helpful and unenlightened experience overall.
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:08 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:There is a Proto-Indo-European root word, *ters-, which means "dry" and derives to tērra, tērrae in Latin and thirst in English.

I could not agree more.
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Postby Dreadful Sagittarius » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:08 pm

The Laxus Union wrote:Do you all feel that a terran civilizations should originate from earth? I personally despise the idea of RPing in the same galaxy as earth. I want to create a unique terran that is a little more modified and comes from a different planet.


As a human civilisation (albeit more advanced than the barbarians of the rest of the galaxy), the Polyarchy has never heard of this 'Earth' you speak of.

More seriously, I just don't acknowledge Earth. Okay, so it's home for a lot of other humans. So what? Why does that matter? Unless they're all part of an 'Evil Earth Conspiracy Association', then it doesn't really reflect on anything but backstory. Now granted, I believe that backstory is incredibly important, but do you ever foresee a time when you'll be having to mention 'Oh we come from Earth. No, not that Earth. No, not that one either. This one, yes!'?

Nope. Just simply handwave it. It's as easy as writing 'Colony Ship Gaia arrives in the formerly-designated system A12-7ED' in a timeline.

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Auman wrote:Just because Earth exists in the setting does not mean you have to recognize it as the birthplace of mankind. I don't and I get along just fine. Earth as it stands is a fractal nightmare... To me, it's creepy and empty.

That, its why I avoid FT "Prime" as it is really.

I would be willing to do cross universal stuff, but the whole multi Earth thing is just depressing and meaningless to me as a setting.


Said it before, say it again; If you want to ignore FT, why are you in the FT Advice Thread?
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:10 pm

Themiclesia wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:There is a Proto-Indo-European root word, *ters-, which means "dry" and derives to tērra, tērrae in Latin and thirst in English.

I could not agree more.

So you have knowledge of Proto-Indo-European as well?
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:11 pm

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Star Trek America wrote:Arguably they are for the benefit of sapient development. We would still be appetizers for T-Rex were it not for a combination of hypervolcanism and a big damn rock.

We humans wouldn't exist without Chixhulub (I think that's how it is spelled).
Furthermore, what does the group think about two things:
1. Shields using plasma held in magnetic fields, and 3-meter-thick titanium-tungsten-vanadium-chromium-iridium alloy, beneath ablative plastic, and above 13 sheets of graphene sandwiching several layers of carbon nanotubes, with another layer of tungsten-iridium carbide alloy below, and finally plastic underneath. This is my standard ship armoring system.
Furthermore, the shields are supplied by plasma from a network of plasma turrets over the hull, which can act as very effective weapons.
2. An FTL engine that magnetically compresses 238,000,000 atoms with 238 protons each into a space the size of a proton, and then blasts it out at 6,768,919.72 times c, the speed of light. That's what I use as my nation's FTL drive; I call it the Dark Energy Drive.
Star Trek America wrote:There is no root-word. Terra is simply Latin for "Land".

There is a Proto-Indo-European root word, *ters-, which means "dry" and derives to tērra, tērrae in Latin and thirst in English.

Would that be possible to do in FTL?

If anything it might just be simple to use FTL that can be easier to work with.

I for example will use alternate dimensions, I don't actually go faster than the speed of light, as the speed of light keeps going faster with each dimension, the farther down, the faster it is. By the time one enters the 11th dimension, it is possible to reach one end of the galaxy from the other in minutes, but I don't have the power to do so at any rate, at the best I will get to 2.
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:12 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:I could not agree more.

So you have knowledge of Proto-Indo-European as well?

Well I am studying Latin and Greek, and I'm doing a bit of leisure reading on Porto languages as well, so I have some exposure to it.

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Postby SquareDisc City » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:12 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:1. Shields using plasma held in magnetic fields,
Interesting idea. The plasma will absorb lasers, though I'm not sure what it will do against projectiles. Particle beams, plasma weapons themselves, and magnetic projectiles will be disrupted by the magnetic fields. I'm not sure it's entirely rigorous, but it seems as good as any. The strong magnetic fields might prevent ships from getting too close together without affecting the shields. It'll also probably be a type of shield that requires continuous power to run, since the plasma will radiate away heat and thus need re-energising or topping up. That means your ships can't go around with the shields up all the time, and thus your commanders will need to use other approaches to guard against ambushes.

and 3-meter-thick titanium-tungsten-vanadium-chromium-iridium alloy, beneath ablative plastic, and above 13 sheets of graphene sandwiching several layers of carbon nanotubes, with another layer of tungsten-iridium carbide alloy below, and finally plastic underneath. This is my standard ship armoring system.
My thoughts on armour are that the speeds and energies involved make the exact materials used unimportant, though they still might need choosing based on structural, thermal, or other performance.

2. An FTL engine
Do what you like for your FTL technology. I've yet to see one with anything more than the flimsiest basis in real physics. That's not an attack on you or any sci-fi writers, it's a consequence of the fact that in the real world all evidence is that FTL travel is impossible.
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Postby Avenio » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:13 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Furthermore, what does the group think about two things:
1. Shields using plasma held in magnetic fields, and 3-meter-thick titanium-tungsten-vanadium-chromium-iridium alloy, beneath ablative plastic, and above 13 sheets of graphene sandwiching several layers of carbon nanotubes, with another layer of tungsten-iridium carbide alloy below, and finally plastic underneath. This is my standard ship armoring system.
Furthermore, the shields are supplied by plasma from a network of plasma turrets over the hull, which can act as very effective weapons.
2. An FTL engine that magnetically compresses 238,000,000 atoms with 238 protons each into a space the size of a proton, and then blasts it out at 6,768,919.72 times c, the speed of light. That's what I use as my nation's FTL drive; I call it the Dark Energy Drive.


What, exactly, do you want us to say? It's word salad. Worse, it's blatantly wank-y word salad.

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Postby Mad Jack » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:13 pm

The Laxus Union wrote:Do you all feel that a terran civilizations should originate from earth? I personally despise the idea of RPing in the same galaxy as earth. I want to create a unique terran that is a little more modified and comes from a different planet.

So do it. 'Humanity' in at least one instance I can think of off the top of my head, doesn't originate from Earth (Star Gate).
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The Laxus Union wrote:Do you all feel that a terran civilizations should originate from earth? I personally despise the idea of RPing in the same galaxy as earth. I want to create a unique terran that is a little more modified and comes from a different planet.

So do it. 'Humanity' in at least one instance I can think of off the top of my head, doesn't originate from Earth (Star Gate).


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Postby The Akasha Colony » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:14 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:2. An FTL engine that magnetically compresses 238,000,000 atoms with 238 protons each into a space the size of a proton, and then blasts it out at 6,768,919.72 times c, the speed of light. That's what I use as my nation's FTL drive; I call it the Dark Energy Drive.


What of it? FTL drives are basically all equally bunk from a purely scientific point of view, so there's not much that can be said.
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Postby Mad Jack » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:16 pm

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Mad Jack wrote:So do it. 'Humanity' in at least one instance I can think of off the top of my head, doesn't originate from Earth (Star Gate).


Stargate is bad and you should feel bad Jack.

I made no comment on the quality of the instance, just that it exists.
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