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by Vocenae » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:45 pm
18:34 <Kyrusia> Voc: The one anchor of moral conscience in a sea of turbulent depravity.
by Valefore » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:49 am
by Lubyak » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:09 am
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by Tierra Prime » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:54 pm
by Neornith » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:41 am
Kassaran wrote:Valefore wrote:More details for my earlier question...
So, I'm largely going off of the idea that the development of several hand-held high-powered weapons such as railguns and the more advanced missile technologies that have been developed by my nation are actually capable of, at a minimum, mission killing a tank if not actually destroying one with a significant level of reliability at a variety of ranges.
Not that futuristic honestly. Just sounds like Humanity or whatever Valeforians are, got better ballistic weapons...This is mentioned in my factbook although not in an extensive amount of detail as of yet. So, considering that these weapons are already pretty commonly used,
As are AT-4's, Javelins, RPG's, and other forms of anti-armor weaponry including mines and IED's...It sounds like your MIC isn't very good at making armor in general, or at least creating countermeasure systems... continue on.and they have a history of making a mockery of the defensive systems and tech available in my nation that are traditionally used in the construction of armored vehicles,This never stopped the real world from doing that for some very good reasons, I'll get to that in a moment.they decided that producing large numbers of these expensive platforms; manned or unmanned, was largely a waste of resources and money when a weapon that costs a fraction of the price and resources can be so successful at kill them.Never stopped post Great War Germany from rebuilding fleets of Pz II's and Pz III's.The fact that those same resources were needed more for the reconstruction of civilian infrastructure after a devastating world war also had a lot of influence in the decision making process.MEAGU's (your mobility enhancing yada-yada) are the next logical step up from 'ground based transports', not an alternative. They offer better surface traverse and crossing ability than any terrestrially-bound vehicle ever would. Your armed dropships are also entirely reasonable and we make use of those today, so nothing new there save for your unwillingness to use mechanized infantry (which is confusing me to no end if you have MEAGUs anyways).When it comes to transporting troops, they've been largely forced to make use of a combination of armed dropships and shuttles (essentially making them into air cavalry), as well as mobility enhancing anti-gravity units to counter the lack of ground based transports.Also, they have pretty big landing ships (that detach from their space craft) that can function as forward operating bases to get them where they're needed.
These dropships, and other air/space units are also used to provide heavier weapons support to ground forces when its needed similar to say an Apache or some other type of gunship...
So, you just use overwhelming air superiority to engage enemy armor? That makes sense. Doesn't mean you don't need some sort of fighting vehicle in the end...Of course, I'm not saying that its a good idea from a modern, "realistic" point of view... However, its what they have to work with so far based on their own experiences which have been decidedly alien in comparison to ours here in the real world... Also, I'm going for the soft sci-fi approach; not the hard sci-fi one so there's that too...
So, thoughts?
My initial thoughts are you're not really doing much new here, you're just eschewing a part of modern warfare, citing improved kill-capabilities resolved your MIC's willingness (or unwillingness in all reality), to make ground-based vehicles. You still use MEAGU-type transports which means you just have motorized infantry... but motorized infantry can still have some support. Like others said, even one heavier weapon system deployed alongside your troops might be best. Force multipliers don't ever detract from a group's fighting ability, but they do add to it. For example, you said you have advanced missile technologies, right? Well, use a forward VBMLS, that would be best and would offer ample support. A single VBMLS using larger caliber and highly effective missiles would do infinitely more for a fighting force than your infantry-utilized variants would.
I do, however, understand if these were among the number one casualty causing weapons in your military during the war, at which point treaties and whatnot might have forced their construction to be halted or stopped indefinitely. Then again, I'm just one voice, and I try to stick with some realism in FT, regardless of everyone else's pleas to leave it behind.
by The Pacifican Islands » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:11 am
by Sunset » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:10 am
The Pacifican Islands wrote:Hey guys!
I've always done MT and PMT rps my entire NS life but I want to try out some FT stuff. I want to get in but I'm not sure where to start. I've read all the guides, and I've decided I want my FT nation to be sort of a post-planetfall republic based off of the nation I have currently. I want to create a factbook and other things, but I'm not sure where to start. Can you guys help me? Thanks in advance! (Sorry if this disturbs you)
EDIT: should I create a new nation?
by Kassaran » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:44 am
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by The Pacifican Islands » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:10 am
Sunset wrote:The Pacifican Islands wrote:Hey guys!
I've always done MT and PMT rps my entire NS life but I want to try out some FT stuff. I want to get in but I'm not sure where to start. I've read all the guides, and I've decided I want my FT nation to be sort of a post-planetfall republic based off of the nation I have currently. I want to create a factbook and other things, but I'm not sure where to start. Can you guys help me? Thanks in advance! (Sorry if this disturbs you)
EDIT: should I create a new nation?
There's a bunch of ways to start, but based on your own suggestion, I would start with the factbook. Create a new one under your existing nation and then answer the Six W's - Who, What, When, Where, Why, And HoW. A sentence or a paragraph each covering the major details of your proposed FT state. With that done, give it a try. Write a short story about the day in the life of a person from your nation, again hitting the Six W's. It could be a soldier, government official, or the mailman. Or even a lowly ensign assigned to swab the decks. This will help you pick out areas in your factbook that just don't work, or that you don't like, and either discard, improve, or change them. Then write another short based on the newly re-worked factbook and ask yourself if you really like writing characters and events based in this place. If you do, great - you're ready to go. With even six paragraphs you'll be ahead of the pack!
If you want some help or some advice in something like real-time, feel free to hop on the NSMentor Discord or ask and I'll send you an invite to the NSFT Discord chat. Just don't get too caught up in building your world; Worldbuilding should be organic and accompany writing, whether roleplaying, factbooking, or even just writing for yourself. See you in the future...
The Federation of Pacifican Stellar Republics
Who
The civilians and descendants of the Pacifican Islands following planetfall in 2167.
What
The PSR is a democratic federation of 5 billion spread across 9 republics, spanning 6 systems (Hawaiki, Victoria, Kamloops, Suaka, Styles, Inverness). Most systems have one inhabitable planet, for the exception of the Victoria System and the Suaka System, with 2 each. The most populated system is the Suaka System, hosting over 2.75 billion people, most of Indonesian descent. The least populated is the frontier system of Inverness, with a population of 27 million.
When
The current standard time in the PSR is 2212.
Why
Earth was evacuated between 2152 and 2169 following the Crisis. A massive alien virus arrived in 2149, only known as V-1221. It caused massive global famine and disease, then was followed by a second, successful kaiju invasion. The Pacifican Islands banded together to send out colony ships, and by November 2169, a month before the Sol Quarantine Zone was officially put in place, most of the population of the nation was rescued.
How
Pacifican FTL technology was discovered in 2134 by Pacifican scientists from Hilo Cosmodrome, which launched the nation's first FTL vessel in 2141. At the time, FTL travel wasn't used as it wasn't seen as necessary, until the Crisis.
"Folks, we're about to dock at New Honolulu International Spaceport. I'm happy to inform you that it's a beautiful day in Honolulu on the ground today at 25c. Enjoy beautiful Waikiki beach and the other non touristy delights for my fellow kama'aina. I hope to see you guys again on Pacifican Spaceways, and with our ohana in Pacifican Airways. For those who don't know or remember, walk straight ahead for a shuttle to New Honolulu International Airport. Flight attendants, please be seated for docking."
I travel between Kotaaman and New Honolulu almost every week, but I still listen to the announcements, every single flight. Instinctively, I turned off my teledevice. Re-entry is the only point in the entire system where there was no connection. I put the cylindrical teledevice in my bag and I took the small drink from my cup holder and chugged it. The sensation on my tongue was strange. It's a drink only served in space, as it contains chemical and natural agents that helped with the rigours of faster than light travel, for whatever reason. I'm not a scientist. It has a minty green colour, coupled with a carbonated texture and a distinct taste that I could only describe as a nice sour, yet not sweet. The aromas of the drink quickly disappeared as it all went into my stomach. I put the now crumpled cup into a hole in the side of the wall, which carried the white paper cup marked with "Pacifican Spaceways" into a tube, which shot it to, what I presume, is the trash chute in the galley. I quickly put on my seatbelt for what I hated the most in traveling through space. I frantically look out the window and I see a tendril of the station. It won't be long now. I feel the craft move sideways before I lose all weight in my body. I feel as if I would begin to move up if it wasn't for the belt. I close my eyes as I prepare for what is even worse. Clunk. It's docked. All of a sudden, I feel my entire weight fall to the seat again, for a second, it feels like falling from Federation Tower in New Honolulu. I did that once for a company "team building" activity. That wasn't fun. For those who don't know, Federation Tower reaches an entire mile in the sky over Downtown, and was opened in 2200, on the 33rd anniversary of the founding of the Pacifican Stellar Republics. The PSR was founded in 2167, immediately after planetfall and the Crisis. Earth was infected by some strange type of alien-mold virus (with icky larva) then was invaded by a race of alien kaiju. And, from what I remember from school, basically killed everything, and almost every Terran Pacifican was evacuated to what is now the Kamloops System, before New Honolulu was founded and the Hawaiki System was populated. Well, I wouldn't know personally. I was born and raised in Vancouver in the Kamloops System, named for Vancouver, a city on Earth that was taken over by the virus and the aliens, and the first one on the planet to be taken out with a fusion nuclear weapon. In downtown (new) Vancouver was a massive pillar inscribed with 1.1 million names of those in (old) Vancouver who died in the blast before they could be evacuated. My grandfather would always weep there and speak of a grandma I never met. Anyways, I opened my eyes as the captain turned on the PA and released me, saying:
"All clear. We are docked safely."
Raising from my seat (along with the 700 others onboard), I took to the overhead bins and recovered my carry on bag. It was a medium sized black box, covered in a luxurious leather material. Technology's advanced a lot, and the leather was grown out of a plant in a strange lab in the mountains north of Vancouver. I set the carry on on the ground and pressed a small blue button, which made it levitate slightly off of the floor. It did levitate, because I've now remembered to charge it every traveling night, as once in Vancouver-Kerow International Spaceport, it ran out of power, and collapsed to the ground. I had to carry a smooth, heavy box for a kilometre! The carry on bag was one of a select few things that still need to charge for over an hour, which basically meant putting it over a designated spot in my home or a hotel room.
Walking out of the spacecraft, I turned my head to stare at the craft. It was a sleek white craft, and slung on the rear was a glowing white and blue ring, emblazoned with the Pacifican logo. I've never actually taken a look at the craft in such detail and for such length. From what I read in the in-flight program, Pacifican was one of the select few companies to not fully collapse during the Crisis, along with Air South Pacific, that now took on a new name (InterSpace) that wasn't reminiscent of what it formerly was. From the geostationary spaceport, I caught myself looking down towards the beautiful planet below, where six bright lights shone brightly in a slight semi circle shape, surrounded by a sea of pitch-black darkness. I'm not familiar with the ever changing political geography of the Capitol Islands, but I knew for a fact that on the second island from the west, on an island named O'ahu was a bright, bright light of over 30 million, named New Honolulu.
by Vocenae » Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:43 pm
18:34 <Kyrusia> Voc: The one anchor of moral conscience in a sea of turbulent depravity.
by Ivor De Prie » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:38 am
by Kassaran » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:59 am
Ivor De Prie wrote:Could a FT army using bolt-action weapons, firing lasers and or similarly potent rounds hold its own against a force fielding automatic weapons?
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by Sunset » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:40 pm
by Bakra » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:12 pm
Vocenae wrote:Just felt like I should link a Youtube channel I found recently that goes over various spacecraft found in various science fiction franchises.
Spacedock. This guy, as said, has a ton of videos and gives a pretty comprehensive breakdown of starfighters and warships across the genre. He's also trying to branch out into doing planetside vehicles and so forth, but not many videos on that. Every once in a while he also does combat simulations that pit two different craft against each other to see which one would be 'better'. Overall, decent little channel for sci-fi nerds.
Though for the record I'll say that if you are inspired by any of the ships on his channel, you should try to use them as a base and then put your own particular spin on them rather than just straight up copy-paste from any established media franchise.
by Valefore » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:14 pm
Ivor De Prie wrote:Could a FT army using bolt-action weapons, firing lasers and or similarly potent rounds hold its own against a force fielding automatic weapons?
by Excidium Planetis » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:01 am
Valefore wrote:Ivor De Prie wrote:Could a FT army using bolt-action weapons, firing lasers and or similarly potent rounds hold its own against a force fielding automatic weapons?
If you're going for a hard science fiction approach based in realism and an understanding of the real world, then the answer is no...
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by Stormwrath » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:15 am
Excidium Planetis wrote:Valefore wrote:
If you're going for a hard science fiction approach based in realism and an understanding of the real world, then the answer is no...
Bolt action weapons still have a place in the real world, despite the real world being the ultimate in realism. I assume even in hard sci fi bolt action weapons would have their place as specialized weapons (such as sniper weapons) or as regular infantry weapons if, for example, ammunition is expensive to produce.
by Tierra Prime » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:12 am
Ivor De Prie wrote:Could a FT army using bolt-action weapons, firing lasers and or similarly potent rounds hold its own against a force fielding automatic weapons?
by SquareDisc City » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:38 am
by Tierra Prime » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:44 am
SquareDisc City wrote:For humans, hand-cranked seems like it's asking to be inaccurate. Of course non-humans might not have such issues.
by Kassaran » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:59 am
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by Sunset » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:33 am
SquareDisc City wrote:For humans, hand-cranked seems like it's asking to be inaccurate. Of course non-humans might not have such issues.
I will admit the idea of the standard infantry weapon being 'bolt-action' seems a bit odd. There are other options like burst fire, semi-automatic, even pump action. But I'm sure there are countless ways it could be justified.
by Lubyak » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:51 pm
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by SquareDisc City » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:11 pm
I assumed you're talking about a crank handle that you turn, like on a Gatling gun or an old car. When you turn that you're pushing it up and down or side to side, and on a weapon you're holding that's going to push the weapon around impairing accuracy.
by Tierra Prime » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:50 pm
SquareDisc City wrote:I assumed you're talking about a crank handle that you turn, like on a Gatling gun or an old car. When you turn that you're pushing it up and down or side to side, and on a weapon you're holding that's going to push the weapon around impairing accuracy.Tierra Prime wrote:How so?
I remember now I actually have a water pistol with a crank fire mechanism, and it was pretty useless for just that reason, I couldn't aim for shit with it. Fortunately it also had a regular trigger.
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