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Postby Arcadonisia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:06 am

What kind of positions will be available during the election process?
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:42 am

Minister of Defense
Minister of the Interior
Minister of Diplomacy
(i need more suggestions)

And amain voting body i thought of the following partys
Expansionist Party

Classical Imperialist party
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Postby Arcadonisia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:54 am

What would be the principles of the two parties? I'm interested in the Classical Imperialist Party
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:23 am

Arcadonisia wrote:What would be the principles of the two parties? I'm interested in the Classical Imperialist Party

Classical Imperialist- Those that seek to keep the old ways of monarchic governments, Will fight against anyone or thing that threatens the order, Invest in military and organization, a little bit like americas republican party

Expansionist- Are engaged in the matters of the order that do not involve the sword. They are those that will try to find any way to make the order rise to its true potential
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:42 am

I would like to become Minster of Defense.

Will we also have meetings with the Minsters?

Will there also be a Prime minster,a head of the Imperial Order.
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:56 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I would like to become Minster of Defense.

Will we also have meetings with the Minsters?

Will there also be a Prime minster,a head of the Imperial Order.

I am trying to decide on a title and the power of the leader of the order.

and here is a website for the order, http://the-imperial-order.wikia.com/wik ... Order_Wiki
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:04 am

And also if this were to become a region would anyone join. :unsure:
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Postby Arcadonisia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:12 am

I think I would like to be in the expansionist party
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:17 am

Verywell Than, it has been noted. and have you seen the wikia i made, i thought it could organize the Alliance a bit
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Postby Serrisia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:18 am

Imperial Avantia wrote:And also if this were to become a region would anyone join. :unsure:


I would like to join, it would also make having a map easier.

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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:19 am

Serrisia wrote:
Imperial Avantia wrote:And also if this were to become a region would anyone join. :unsure:


I would like to join, it would also make having a map easier.

I have someone that can make a map, and what is your opinion on the government in the alliance
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Postby Serrisia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:27 am

Imperial Avantia wrote:
Serrisia wrote:
I would like to join, it would also make having a map easier.

I have someone that can make a map, and what is your opinion on the government in the alliance

Hmm, well I think that a government is good, but it lacks a religious note to it. If my nation does become a full-fledged member expect a strong push for more religious intervention, maybe even an alliance religion. It’s not any real religion but it is the bases of my nation so we will push for it. That is for the future though. Other than that I think we have a good strong working base, though I would like a more extremist military/ expansionist sub party to add some spice to it all.

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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:29 am

Serrisia wrote:
Imperial Avantia wrote:I have someone that can make a map, and what is your opinion on the government in the alliance

Hmm, well I think that a government is good, but it lacks a religious note to it. If my nation does become a full-fledged member expect a strong push for more religious intervention, maybe even an alliance religion. It’s not any real religion but it is the bases of my nation so we will push for it. That is for the future though. Other than that I think we have a good strong working base, though I would like a more extremist military/ expansionist sub party to add some spice to it all.

I could do that, and the religion thing would have to be voted on ounce the senate is established
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"Those that survive our passing, do so only by our consent."
Let that be realized. No survival for the British Empire, no survival for all that the British Empire has stood for, no survival for the urge, the impulse of the ages, that mankind shall move forward toward his goal.
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Postby Arcadonisia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:45 am

I would join the region, definitely.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:47 am

How would we name the region Imperial Union?

And we should also make a Union map.
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:16 pm

Imperial Union would be nice but it should match the current name
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:43 pm

And i need help with the wikia page. just ideas on what should i add. i was thinking of a joint military force. (Not all your army of course, like NATO)
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"Those that survive our passing, do so only by our consent."
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:52 pm

Imperial Avantia wrote:And i need help with the wikia page. just ideas on what should i add. i was thinking of a joint military force. (Not all your army of course, like NATO)

The laws,Nembers, Forms of Alliances and the capital and we need to decide a capital name for the Imperial Order.

And we also need a role thread.
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:24 pm

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:
Imperial Avantia wrote:And i need help with the wikia page. just ideas on what should i add. i was thinking of a joint military force. (Not all your army of course, like NATO)

The laws,Nembers, Forms of Alliances and the capital and we need to decide a capital name for the Imperial Order.

And we also need a role thread.

I Have a friend that will make a map for us, based on the current world, i call imperial russian territitorys. and i will begin to a constitution.
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"Those that survive our passing, do so only by our consent."
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Constitution Draft

Postby Vortukia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:56 pm

Article 1: Characteristics of the Order

a) The Imperial Order shall remain free
b) Shall remain Secular
c) Shall remain Secure
d) All nations reserve the right to leave
e) All nations are free to govern themselves unless it is of need of Imperial influence

Article 2: Integrity of the nation

a) Its official language is English
b) It will never attempt to infringe on the constitution of other nations
c) It has no capitol
d) It will remain supported by it's founders and people under it
e It's guardian against FT nations will be Vortukia unless Vortukia passes some of it's technology to a new guardian

Article 3: Irrevocable articles

a) Article 1 shall never be changed, neither shall Article 2c) and 2e).

Article 4: Duties of the Order

a) To govern the nation with care and equality
b) To maintain peace and prosperity in all nations
c) To govern with justice

Article 5: Legislative power

a) One does not have the right to remove rights of nations
b) The Leaders power can be impeached
c) The Leader must always represent the goals of the people

Article 6: Judicial power

a) Judicial power will only be exercised in court
b) Judges may not have the right to display bias, or receive bribes
c) One will always be innocent until proven guilty

Article 7: Equality is our dignity

a) Everyone shall be treated equal no matter what race, color, sex, sexuality, religion, they are
b) Both sexes are equal and anyone implying that a sex is superior than another shall be punished
c) No person, family, or class shall be granted privileges such as nobility
d) No nation will be judged on its past

Article 8: The Power of the Constitution

a) The Constitution is the fundamental group of laws that must never be modified
b) No laws should contradict the Constitution

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Government Workings

Postby Vortukia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:09 pm

The members get a vote of a majority rules kind of deal on subjects.
People may abstain or give a yay or nay.
The leader has the right to put laws forth should be voted on.
He acts as a tie breaker, puts laws forwards, and has the ability
to eject laws before voted on.
The people at any time may put up a vote to impeach the Leader
if he is impeached he looses all power.
The FT Guardians main job is to protect others in the Order from
threats that they are not ready to handle. They are also meant t
watch everyone so that no one starts using technology they are not
ready for. The Guardian is a simply a title that can be given to another
person of advanced FT stature.

Councilors are people who vote just like anyone else but may propose
revisions to a law. They are appointed by the Leader

Elections are handled by people nominating themselves and then
people can vote on that candidate.

Military Commanders kind of say where the order's forces should
go and what they should do. There nation also forms the base example
of the military and are generally of super powers. His authority does not
extend to the Guardian but the Guardian does watch over the commander.

Rough Draft

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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:25 pm

looks nice. i will post my improvments
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"Those that survive our passing, do so only by our consent."
Let that be realized. No survival for the British Empire, no survival for all that the British Empire has stood for, no survival for the urge, the impulse of the ages, that mankind shall move forward toward his goal.
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Postby Imperial Avantia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:30 pm

Article 1: Characteristics of the Order

a) The Imperial Order shall remain free
b) Shall remain Secular
c) Shall remain Secure
d) All nations reserve the right to leave
e) All nations are free to govern themselves unless it is of need of Imperial influence

Article 2: Integrity of the nation

a) Its official language is Prussian, but member nations may still keep thier current
b) It will never attempt to infringe on the constitution of other nations
c) It has no capitol, but one city shall be chosen as the HQ of the Order
d) It will remain supported by it's founders and people under it
e) It's guardian against FT nations will be Vortukia unless Vortukia passes some of it's technology to a new guardian

Article 3: Irrevocable articles

a) Article 1 shall never be changed, neither shall Article 2c) and 2e).

Article 4: Duties of the Order

a) To govern the nation with care and equality
b) To maintain peace and prosperity in all nations
c) To govern with justice

Article 5: Legislative power

a) One does not have the right to remove rights of nations
b) The Leaders power can be impeached with 75% of senate votes voting in favor
c) The Leader must always represent the goals of the memb nationser

Article 6: Judicial power

a) Judicial power will only be exercised in court
b) Judges may not have the right to display bias, or receive bribes
c) One will always be innocent until proven guilty

Article 7: Equality is our dignity

a) Everyone shall be treated equal no matter what race, color, sex, sexuality, religion, they are
b) Both sexes are equal and anyone implying that a sex is superior than another shall be punished
c) No nation will be judged on its past

Article 8: The Power of the Constitution

a) The Constitution is the fundamental group of laws that must never be modified
b) No laws should contradict the Constitution[/quote]
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Grand Chancellor Xavier Avantia XIV
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"Those that survive our passing, do so only by our consent."
Let that be realized. No survival for the British Empire, no survival for all that the British Empire has stood for, no survival for the urge, the impulse of the ages, that mankind shall move forward toward his goal.
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Postby Vortukia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:42 pm

Nice.

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