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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:38 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Vortukia wrote:No it wouldn't be a mod because that would require people buying the game, I would much rather work myself to death then make you pay foe something.


Also a great idea for a game mode.

Keep what you kill...
He rules are normal, but once you kill off a faction
You get their faction. Meaning say Vortukia kills off the scions I get everything the scions have along with Vortukia.
Here's what I predict....
* me playing as Vortukia*
*game starts*
Enemy's sighted.


I fear for Vortukia

Wait, you are making an actual video game?

You realize how much money that cost?
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:46 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Wait, you are making an actual video game?

You realize how much money that cost?

Not to mention it would be copyright infringement since there is the Imperium of Man, the Dark Jedi, and other things from Mass Effect and other things that are taken from media, we will be in serious trouble if this becomes a game because of what might would happen if we leave the names and other things the way they are.
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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:52 pm

Well there are some loopholes I know about, and making a game with rscources I already have is hard without money

But I'm going to do it

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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:53 pm

Vortukia wrote:Well there are some loopholes I know about, and making a game with rscources I already have is hard without money

But I'm going to do it

Dude, just make a mod. It's not worth the trouble.

And about these loopholes, you want to get sued?
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:54 pm

Vortukia wrote:Well there are some loopholes I know about, and making a game with rscources I already have is hard without money

But I'm going to do it

I would still not like my nation in the game just in case, if you would be so kind.
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Imperialisium
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Postby Imperialisium » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:55 pm

Zeinbrad, care to become allied with the Empire. It can be like a quasi alliance whereby its not formal but an honored agreement

@Also not my nation either..as its property belonging to me exclusively.
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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:56 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Vortukia wrote:Well there are some loopholes I know about, and making a game with rscources I already have is hard without money

But I'm going to do it

Dude, just make a mod. It's not worth the trouble.

And about these loopholes, you want to get sued?

Mods, will force you guys to buy the game to play it. I'm more comfortable making it from scratch.

You let me worry about that.

I would not be sued, as it will be a non profit game.
And I would make some minor changes, and maybe even ask for permission.
Disney is actually very good about letting there stuff be used, since they own star wars now.

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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:57 pm

Vortukia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Dude, just make a mod. It's not worth the trouble.

And about these loopholes, you want to get sued?

Mods, will force you guys to buy the game to play it. I'm more comfortable making it from scratch.

You let me worry about that.

I would not be sued, as it will be a non profit game.
And I would make some minor changes, and maybe even ask for permission.
Disney is actually very good about letting there stuff be used, since they own star wars now.

Then make it on a game that is cheap and easy to find.

Such as Dawn of war or Star wars:Empire at war.

If you go bankrupt, not my problem.
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The first way is to be kind.
The second way is to be kind.
The third way is to be kind.”
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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:58 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Vortukia wrote:Well there are some loopholes I know about, and making a game with rscources I already have is hard without money

But I'm going to do it

Dude, just make a mod. It's not worth the trouble.

And about these loopholes, you want to get sued?

Wouldn't that actually spread to us because we had a hand in the lore behind the game?
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:59 pm

Also it would be very under the radar as well.

And I would change up names a little if anything is referenced (mainly Jedi)
witch I could always email a Disney executive, they are VERY liberal about letting
there stuff be used.
I'm not going to get sued as long as I don't charge for the game (I didn't intend on it)
also the radar, and Imperium and star wars will never be mentioned ever.

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:00 pm

Vortukia wrote:Also it would be very under the radar as well.

And I would change up names a little if anything is referenced (mainly Jedi)
witch I could always email a Disney executive, they are VERY liberal about letting
there stuff be used.
I'm not going to get sued as long as I don't charge for the game (I didn't intend on it)
also the radar, and Imperium and star wars will never be mentioned ever.

Like me and Imperial said, can you not add us in the game if you would do so please?
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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:01 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Vortukia wrote:Mods, will force you guys to buy the game to play it. I'm more comfortable making it from scratch.

You let me worry about that.

I would not be sued, as it will be a non profit game.
And I would make some minor changes, and maybe even ask for permission.
Disney is actually very good about letting there stuff be used, since they own star wars now.

Then make it on a game that is cheap and easy to find.

Such as Dawn of war or Star wars:Empire at war.

If you go bankrupt, not my problem.

If you know what your doing and getting some help it's really not that hard to do.
Also wont cost that much money if at all because I'm not doing it for a living or
making my own engine or anything.

Also the RTS is in concept it's the FPS one that i've been making im working on.

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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:01 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Vortukia wrote:Also it would be very under the radar as well.

And I would change up names a little if anything is referenced (mainly Jedi)
witch I could always email a Disney executive, they are VERY liberal about letting
there stuff be used.
I'm not going to get sued as long as I don't charge for the game (I didn't intend on it)
also the radar, and Imperium and star wars will never be mentioned ever.

Like me and Imperial said, can you not add us in the game if you would do so please?

Me either, I'm not getting sued.
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The first way is to be kind.
The second way is to be kind.
The third way is to be kind.”
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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:04 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Ralnis wrote:Like me and Imperial said, can you not add us in the game if you would do so please?

Me either, I'm not getting sued.

Did any of you take law and government?
They would have no grounds to sue us, no reason, and probably would never know the game existed.
As it's a private game for the members of Infinity.

Think long and hard if you want to not be in the game, I can tell you right now there is NO legal worry.
But once you are not in, I'm not going to add you in.

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The Fallen Jedi
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Postby The Fallen Jedi » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:05 pm

Vortukia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Then make it on a game that is cheap and easy to find.

Such as Dawn of war or Star wars:Empire at war.

If you go bankrupt, not my problem.

If you know what your doing and getting some help it's really not that hard to do.
Also wont cost that much money if at all because I'm not doing it for a living or
making my own engine or anything.

Also the RTS is in concept it's the FPS one that i've been making im working on.


What would my Republic be named to.

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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:07 pm

The Fallen Jedi wrote:
Vortukia wrote:If you know what your doing and getting some help it's really not that hard to do.
Also wont cost that much money if at all because I'm not doing it for a living or
making my own engine or anything.

Also the RTS is in concept it's the FPS one that i've been making im working on.


What would my Republic be named to.

Probably "The Republic"
Frankly there would most likely me no naming of the word Jedi.
Also to your earlier question I had an idea for "Leader Units" in the
possible game (witch remember is just a concept right now).

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Postby The Fallen Jedi » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:09 pm

Vortukia wrote:
The Fallen Jedi wrote:
What would my Republic be named to.

Probably "The Republic"
Frankly there would most likely me no naming of the word Jedi.
Also to your earlier question I had an idea for "Leader Units" in the
possible game (witch remember is just a concept right now).


Will this be similar to Red Alert, because i do not know what Supreme Commander is.

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:11 pm

Vortukia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Me either, I'm not getting sued.

Did any of you take law and government?
They would have no grounds to sue us, no reason, and probably would never know the game existed.
As it's a private game for the members of Infinity.

Think long and hard if you want to not be in the game, I can tell you right now there is NO legal worry.
But once you are not in, I'm not going to add you in.

I still don't want to be in this.
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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:11 pm

The Fallen Jedi wrote:
Vortukia wrote:Probably "The Republic"
Frankly there would most likely me no naming of the word Jedi.
Also to your earlier question I had an idea for "Leader Units" in the
possible game (witch remember is just a concept right now).


Will this be similar to Red Alert, because i do not know what Supreme Commander is.

I had a pretty good idea how the mechanics would work.
Even had a alliance/trade/joint ops system thought of and worked out.

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Postby Imperialisium » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:13 pm

Vortukia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Me either, I'm not getting sued.

Did any of you take law and government?
They would have no grounds to sue us, no reason, and probably would never know the game existed.
As it's a private game for the members of Infinity.

Think long and hard if you want to not be in the game, I can tell you right now there is NO legal worry.
But once you are not in, I'm not going to add you in.


As a student of Law (I.E. University Level) they could get you for Plagiarism on the most mundane things. For example if you made one reference to: Hyperspace, Mass Effect Relays, Any species already part of a franchise, Any copyrighted canon, Even conceptual Art, then that counts as violation of copyrighted material.

Now you could use the whole Law basis of Fair Use, and say copyright the term Hyperspace to the game. However on average it takes two years minimum to make a decent game and with many of the hyped up game around five years.

Also for example you would need to be explicit and answer every question we ask on the topic of our nations.
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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:17 pm

Imperialisium wrote:
Vortukia wrote:Did any of you take law and government?
They would have no grounds to sue us, no reason, and probably would never know the game existed.
As it's a private game for the members of Infinity.

Think long and hard if you want to not be in the game, I can tell you right now there is NO legal worry.
But once you are not in, I'm not going to add you in.


As a student of Law (I.E. University Level) they could get you for Plagiarism on the most mundane things. For example if you made one reference to: Hyperspace, Mass Effect Relays, Any species already part of a franchise, Any copyrighted canon, Even conceptual Art, then that counts as violation of copyrighted material.

Now you could use the whole Law basis of Fair Use, and say copyright the term Hyperspace to the game. However on average it takes two years minimum to make a decent game and with many of the hyped up game around five years.

Also for example you would need to be explicit and answer every question we ask on the topic of our nations.

Any question you have about the game I would answer,
I would never mentioned any race of another nation EVER, even change the look of the Citadel (although I can keep the name because they don't OWN the name.) Hyperspace is not a copyrightable term, it has been used in COUNTLESS media's and since I'm not using anything that is copyrighted or belongs to them I am fine.

If I NEED to put something in that is copyrighted I will call up the owner first, Disney I know is very good about this.
EA...not so much.
Bioware as long as they know WHAT your doing with it.

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Ralnis
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Postby Ralnis » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:19 pm

Vortukia wrote:
Imperialisium wrote:
As a student of Law (I.E. University Level) they could get you for Plagiarism on the most mundane things. For example if you made one reference to: Hyperspace, Mass Effect Relays, Any species already part of a franchise, Any copyrighted canon, Even conceptual Art, then that counts as violation of copyrighted material.

Now you could use the whole Law basis of Fair Use, and say copyright the term Hyperspace to the game. However on average it takes two years minimum to make a decent game and with many of the hyped up game around five years.

Also for example you would need to be explicit and answer every question we ask on the topic of our nations.

Any question you have about the game I would answer,
I would never mentioned any race of another nation EVER, even change the look of the Citadel (although I can keep the name because they don't OWN the name.) Hyperspace is not a copyrightable term, it has been used in COUNTLESS media's and since I'm not using anything that is copyrighted or belongs to them I am fine.

If I NEED to put something in that is copyrighted I will call up the owner first, Disney I know is very good about this.
EA...not so much.
Bioware as long as they know WHAT your doing with it.

Like I said before, I will like my nation out of the game if you will do so kindly.
This account must be deleted. The person behind it is a racist, annoying waste of life that must be shunned back to whatever rock he crawled out from.

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Vortukia
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:21 pm

Ralnis wrote:
Vortukia wrote:Any question you have about the game I would answer,
I would never mentioned any race of another nation EVER, even change the look of the Citadel (although I can keep the name because they don't OWN the name.) Hyperspace is not a copyrightable term, it has been used in COUNTLESS media's and since I'm not using anything that is copyrighted or belongs to them I am fine.

If I NEED to put something in that is copyrighted I will call up the owner first, Disney I know is very good about this.
EA...not so much.
Bioware as long as they know WHAT your doing with it.

Like I said before, I will like my nation out of the game if you will do so kindly.

Your loss.

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Postby Chedastan » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:22 pm

I think the Vorjora Nations should be fine, I think. I mean they're a entirely fictional creation of mine.
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Postby Vortukia » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:24 pm

Chedastan wrote:I think the Vorjora Nations should be fine, I think. I mean they're a entirely fictional creation of mine.

All nations are fine.

If anyone wants anything special or how something might work not only if I have no idea we could devise it together or well.
Yeah thats about it.

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