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Should the WC have it's members to make an IIwiki page?

Yes
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32%
No
16
22%
Yes, and also NSWiki
11
15%
No, we should use NSWiki only
6
8%
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Total votes : 74

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New Korongo
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Postby New Korongo » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:45 pm

Columbion wrote:Looks like the Western Coalition has turned into a dictatorship. I was first admitted then the ruling party decided to do another vote until they got their wish. It will be fun destroying Radikalefaktion.

I suggested a second poll, not because I was unsatisfied with the original result, but because I believed that utilising the thread’s poll feature was an unsecure. We held the original poll to determine which opinion was held by the majority of Western Coalition members. The problem with using a thread poll to achieve this is the fact that any member of NationStates can vote, not just members of the Western Coalition. Additionally, it is extremely vulnerable to a determined player using puppet nations to turn the vote in their favour.

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Liberated Counties
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Postby Liberated Counties » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:58 pm

I propose an extension on the poll because hardly anyone has voted yet. 9 People (i think) do not represent the opinion of the coalition entirely. Besides voting doesn't equal commitment of forces, just an expression of opinion.
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United Soviet Jason Republic
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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:00 pm

Veroxia wrote:In response to mobilization of troops in the nation of Transoxthraxia, the U.S.S.V has begun the mobilization of soldiers and a nation-wide draft, more is to be learned soon...



In cooperation with our allies, the USJR has decided to raise it's internal alert level. In response, all of the cores in the USJR armed forces are mobilizing in case of an attack. The USJR reminds it's international counterparts that it shall not strike unless attacked.

United we Win! Divided we fall.


I also agree to more voting time should be allowed.
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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:09 pm

Also in response, the UK begins construction of massive defenses around the nation, trying to be ready in case of a Radikale invasion. Mobilization of military forces and conscription has also taken place.
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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:23 pm

New Korongo wrote:
Columbion wrote:Looks like the Western Coalition has turned into a dictatorship. I was first admitted then the ruling party decided to do another vote until they got their wish. It will be fun destroying Radikalefaktion.

I suggested a second poll, not because I was unsatisfied with the original result, but because I believed that utilising the thread’s poll feature was an unsecure. We held the original poll to determine which opinion was held by the majority of Western Coalition members. The problem with using a thread poll to achieve this is the fact that any member of NationStates can vote, not just members of the Western Coalition. Additionally, it is extremely vulnerable to a determined player using puppet nations to turn the vote in their favour.

yes, that's why we're doing it by posting
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Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:36 pm

I will be making a separate RP for the civil war, and will post it on here.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Columbion
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Postby Columbion » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:38 pm

I can't wait for war! Time to finally rid the Western Coalition of the fascist elements. The war drums are beating throughout Columbion, thus awakening the bear!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfmMuIOyS0

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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:42 pm

Columbion wrote:I can't wait for war! Time to finally rid the Western Coalition of the fascist elements. The war drums are beating throughout Columbion, thus awakening the bear!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfmMuIOyS0

You do know whoever loses will just not get their way, no one (except you, if the Radicals win) will leave the coalition
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Columbion
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Postby Columbion » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:50 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Columbion wrote:I can't wait for war! Time to finally rid the Western Coalition of the fascist elements. The war drums are beating throughout Columbion, thus awakening the bear!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfmMuIOyS0

You do know whoever loses will just not get their way, no one (except you, if the Radicals win) will leave the coalition


Me just applying reveals the Western Coalition as an undemocratic organization. Throwing out one vote for another. Just a question, whose the real dictatorship in this scenario? Me? someone whose already been accepted through a poll or the Western Coalition and there democracy loving Paketo and cronies? Some group of people who want to wipe out one vote for another. It seems like you have a group of DICTATORS that you should banish. I've already proven myself as a democratic and "free" society. It seems as though tides have changed.

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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:59 pm

Columbion wrote:
Gibberan wrote:You do know whoever loses will just not get their way, no one (except you, if the Radicals win) will leave the coalition


Me just applying reveals the Western Coalition as an undemocratic organization. Throwing out one vote for another. Just a question, whose the real dictatorship in this scenario? Me? someone whose already been accepted through a poll or the Western Coalition and there democracy loving Paketo and cronies? Some group of people who want to wipe out one vote for another. It seems like you have a group of DICTATORS that you should banish. I've already proven myself as a democratic and "free" society. It seems as though tides have changed.

Then leave to make all of us happy and refrain from a civil war.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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United Soviet Jason Republic
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Postby United Soviet Jason Republic » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:02 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Columbion wrote:
Me just applying reveals the Western Coalition as an undemocratic organization. Throwing out one vote for another. Just a question, whose the real dictatorship in this scenario? Me? someone whose already been accepted through a poll or the Western Coalition and there democracy loving Paketo and cronies? Some group of people who want to wipe out one vote for another. It seems like you have a group of DICTATORS that you should banish. I've already proven myself as a democratic and "free" society. It seems as though tides have changed.

Then leave to make all of us happy and refrain from a civil war.


I agree, take it as it is, or try to mend it. Either way, don't yell at the people who voted in your favor.
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Columbion
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Postby Columbion » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:06 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Columbion wrote:
Me just applying reveals the Western Coalition as an undemocratic organization. Throwing out one vote for another. Just a question, whose the real dictatorship in this scenario? Me? someone whose already been accepted through a poll or the Western Coalition and there democracy loving Paketo and cronies? Some group of people who want to wipe out one vote for another. It seems like you have a group of DICTATORS that you should banish. I've already proven myself as a democratic and "free" society. It seems as though tides have changed.

Then leave to make all of us happy and refrain from a civil war.


I applied, I was ridiculed and put to a vote, I won that vote, and now we, well you are facing civil war because YOU and your corrupt faction didn't get their way the first time. So no, I'm staying and I'm going to have fun!

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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:08 pm

Columbion wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Then leave to make all of us happy and refrain from a civil war.


I applied, I was ridiculed and put to a vote, I won that vote, and now we, well you are facing civil war because YOU and your corrupt faction didn't get their way the first time. So no, I'm staying and I'm going to have fun!

If you're wanting to have fun, stop shouting about it! Also, civil war thread will be up to-morrow. Transoxthraxia, do you want to be Co-OP?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:09 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Columbion wrote:
I applied, I was ridiculed and put to a vote, I won that vote, and now we, well you are facing civil war because YOU and your corrupt faction didn't get their way the first time. So no, I'm staying and I'm going to have fun!

If you're wanting to have fun, stop shouting about it! Also, civil war thread will be up to-morrow. Transoxthraxia, do you want to be Co-OP?

Yes, please, that would be good.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:11 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Gibberan wrote:If you're wanting to have fun, stop shouting about it! Also, civil war thread will be up to-morrow. Transoxthraxia, do you want to be Co-OP?

Yes, please, that would be good.

I would like to be Co-OP, since I am the leader of my respective faction...
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Columbion
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Postby Columbion » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:15 pm

ITS WAR DAY!

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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:45 pm

Thread will be up in a few minutes....
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Marsisian
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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:45 pm

Gibberan wrote:Thread will be up in a few minutes....

YEAH! Untz, untz, untz...
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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:55 pm

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Columbion
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Postby Columbion » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:02 pm

There was no revolution that overthrew the government. I simply just introduced democracy and reforms.

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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:02 pm

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Gibberan
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Postby Gibberan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:02 pm

Columbion wrote:There was no revolution that overthrew the government. I simply just introduced democracy and reforms.

It said in your app though....
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Columbion
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Postby Columbion » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:07 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Columbion wrote:There was no revolution that overthrew the government. I simply just introduced democracy and reforms.

It said in your app though....


Ah, thats how modern Columbion was created.

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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:12 pm

So I see, there is a split emerging within the Western Coalition? Of course, as the founder member of the IFA, we are opposed to any fascist elements within the Western Coalition.
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Transoxthraxia
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:59 pm

Bratislav wrote:So I see, there is a split emerging within the Western Coalition? Of course, as the founder member of the IFA, we are opposed to any fascist elements within the Western Coalition.

Why the fuck are people continually referring to me as fascist.

The Radikalefraktion is not fascist. In fact, we're the opposite. In fact, we're opposed to the group who wants to let in a former dictatorship that actually caused the entire war to begin with.
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Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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