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Should the WC have it's members to make an IIwiki page?

Yes
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No
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Yes, and also NSWiki
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No, we should use NSWiki only
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8%
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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:59 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Bratislav wrote:So I see, there is a split emerging within the Western Coalition? Of course, as the founder member of the IFA, we are opposed to any fascist elements within the Western Coalition.

Why the fuck are people continually referring to me as fascist.

Because you are.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:00 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Why the fuck are people continually referring to me as fascist.

Because you are.

Literally, I've referred to my nation as republican in RP, and in II. Please consider it that, or I cannot RP with you.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Bratislav » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:04 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Bratislav wrote:So I see, there is a split emerging within the Western Coalition? Of course, as the founder member of the IFA, we are opposed to any fascist elements within the Western Coalition.

Why the fuck are people continually referring to me as fascist.

The Radikalefraktion is not fascist. In fact, we're the opposite. In fact, we're opposed to the group who wants to let in a former dictatorship that actually caused the entire war to begin with.


In my defense, I didn't refer to you specifically as fascist, I just saw that people were talking about fascist elements within the Western Coalition, so for that reason.
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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:05 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Marsisian wrote:Because you are.

Literally, I've referred to my nation as republican in RP, and in II. Please consider it that, or I cannot RP with you.

I cannot RP with you, then.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:08 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Why the fuck are people continually referring to me as fascist.

The Radikalefraktion is not fascist. In fact, we're the opposite. In fact, we're opposed to the group who wants to let in a former dictatorship that actually caused the entire war to begin with.


In my defense, I didn't refer to you specifically as fascist, I just saw that people were talking about fascist elements within the Western Coalition, so for that reason.

I know. I just need to clarify this before it gets worse.

Also, just for all of your information, since some of you can't tell the difference, there is a difference between a Presidential Dictatorship and a Fascist Dictatorship. A Presidential Dictatorship often offers their citizens many civil and economic freedoms, just like my non-II nation does, and rarely uses totalitarian or repressive forces to rule. On the other hand, in practice, almost all Fascist Dictatorships have used some form of repression or propaganda on their people to gain support, or keep rebellious activity down. Furthermore, often Fascist Dictatorships often use the aspects of nationalism and patriotism to their advantage, as well as accentuating Jingoism and Pro-Military elements of their nation. A Presidential Dictatorship neither needs, nor rarely incorporates, these elements into their polity. However, since this little paragraph will most likely be ignored by the majority of you, and you will continue to be Fascistophobes.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Gibberan » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:09 pm

Guys, cool it.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:09 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Literally, I've referred to my nation as republican in RP, and in II. Please consider it that, or I cannot RP with you.

I cannot RP with you, then.

You refuse to RP with me because my IC nation is different from my OOC beliefs? I would ask you a question regarding your intelligence, but I would be viable for flaming, so I will refrain from it. But just for your information, you're resigning from RPing with me, because I'm not backing down.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:10 pm

All right then, Transo-I can't spell your name, anyway, I want you to guess what type I am, and let's see if you can guess right.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:11 pm

Marsisian wrote:All right then, Transo-I can't spell your name, anyway, I want you to guess what type I am, and let's see if you can guess right.

What type of what?
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:11 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Marsisian wrote:All right then, Transo-I can't spell your name, anyway, I want you to guess what type I am, and let's see if you can guess right.

What type of what?

I don't know! Like a Republic or something.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:12 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:What type of what?

I don't know! Like a Republic or something.

You're a democracy of some sorts. Perhaps a federal republic with left-wing tendencies.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:12 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I don't know! Like a Republic or something.

You're a democracy of some sorts. Perhaps a federal republic with left-wing tendencies.

:rofl: :rofl: A Federal Republic? A FEDERAL REPUBLIC?!
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:13 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:You're a democracy of some sorts. Perhaps a federal republic with left-wing tendencies.

:rofl: :rofl: A Federal Republic? A FEDERAL REPUBLIC?!

I have trouble grasping why this is so funny. Perhaps you don't understand what a Federal Republic is.
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Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:14 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Marsisian wrote: :rofl: :rofl: A Federal Republic? A FEDERAL REPUBLIC?!

I have trouble grasping why this is so funny. Perhaps you don't understand what a Federal Republic is.

I'm sure you don't know what a Constitutional Monarchy is.
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Postby New Korongo » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:17 pm

Marsisian wrote:I'm sure you don't know what a Constitutional Monarchy is.

The United Kingdom in real life is essentially a federal republic, so I don't know what is so funny.
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Postby Corenea » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:18 pm

New Korongo wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I'm sure you don't know what a Constitutional Monarchy is.

The United Kingdom in real life is essentially a federal republic, so I don't know what is so funny.

It still have a royal monarchy but their powers are virtually non-existent now
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:19 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:I have trouble grasping why this is so funny. Perhaps you don't understand what a Federal Republic is.

I'm sure you don't know what a Constitutional Monarchy is.

I love how you immediately assume that I know that you're a monarchy. You've never actually explicitly stated this. On the other hand, I've mentioned numerous times we're a republic.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:20 pm

Corenea wrote:
New Korongo wrote:The United Kingdom in real life is essentially a federal republic, so I don't know what is so funny.

It still have a royal monarchy but their powers are virtually non-existent now

Anyway, I'm a Constitutional Monarchy with Republican Conservative aspects.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:24 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Corenea wrote:It still have a royal monarchy but their powers are virtually non-existent now

Anyway, I'm a Constitutional Monarchy with Republican Conservative aspects.

You're more authoritarian than me, then.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:26 pm

Anyways, now that that's been sorted out, how shall we judge combat? I don't think it should be on the merit of numbers, to be honest. Perhaps the best writing?
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby New Korongo » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:28 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:Anyways, now that that's been sorted out, how shall we judge combat? I don't think it should be on the merit of numbers, to be honest. Perhaps the best writing?

Perhaps combat should be judged by the equipment, tactics, training and strategy of those involved?

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:29 pm

New Korongo wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Anyways, now that that's been sorted out, how shall we judge combat? I don't think it should be on the merit of numbers, to be honest. Perhaps the best writing?

Perhaps combat should be judged by the equipment, tactics, training and strategy of those involved?

I'd say a combination of both. Because the issue with what you're aiming at is basically, someone claiming "Oh, yes, my soldiers have had the best training evar and are infinitely superior to your soldiers".
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:32 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
New Korongo wrote:Perhaps combat should be judged by the equipment, tactics, training and strategy of those involved?

I'd say a combination of both. Because the issue with what you're aiming at is basically, someone claiming "Oh, yes, my soldiers have had the best training evar and are infinitely superior to your soldiers".

I vote numbers. The entire Eastern Front of WW2 was solely based on numbers.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:34 pm

Marsisian wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:I'd say a combination of both. Because the issue with what you're aiming at is basically, someone claiming "Oh, yes, my soldiers have had the best training evar and are infinitely superior to your soldiers".

I vote numbers. The entire Eastern Front of WW2 was solely based on numbers.

Hahahahahaha
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Marsisian » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:35 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Marsisian wrote:I vote numbers. The entire Eastern Front of WW2 was solely based on numbers.

Hahahahahaha

Really? You're laughing at a proven fact? The Germans had superior equipment and training, but at the end of the day, it's quantity over quality.
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