What should Molsona do with atheists

[Sakarnen]

Why, sympathy has nothing to do with it. They will be turned into slaves upon arrival- well-kept slaves, but slaves nonetheless.

If you require that they attend Catholic Mass, I'll add your nation to the poll

"That can be arranged; the few catholic churches we have will probably take them."
The Emperor put down the pen and chuckled. At least until all of them are here, anyway; we'll just pretend they keep attending.

[Regnum Dominae]

We will gladly accept any atheist refugees. We COMDEMN your brutal suppression of your atheist population, and call on Molsona to treat its atheist population fairly.

[Atheist]

You should reward them, for their faith in non-belief. Also, execute the religious people.

[Ponderosa]

Give them a cookie and send them to me.

[Gaelic Celtia]

The Empire wishes to ask why you would exclude nations based on their religion but feels that it is a rather pointless endeavour.

I don't want them going to nations that would sympathize with the heathens

OOC: Then what is the point? To ahve them mistreated somewhere else? Sense: this thread makes none now.

[Ammar]

ANY THREATS OF WAR RECIEVED AFTER 21:00 UTC (5:00 PM EDT) WILL RESULT IN CONTINUATION OF THE EXECUTION OF ATHEISTS. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE ATHEISTS ALIVE.

This is not a threat. This IS a declaration.

The Desert Republic of Ammar declares Cold War on Molsona.

[Charellia]

The United People's Federation of Charellia is disgusted by the actions of Molsona. In keeping with our refugee policy we will take all victims of the brutal Molsona regime who reach our borders, declare Molsona's government a criminal regime, issue orders to arrest all agents of the Molsona government attempting to enter our nation, cut off all dealings with Molsona until this situation is resolved and encourage all other nations to do the same.

[Bolden]

"Out of those options, I'd say 're-educate' them. But the best bet would be to just let them be. I know their views and such aren't like yours - and mines for that matter, but there's not so much else you can do about it.

..btw, I'd never consider execution as a proper way to handle..anything. But it's your nation, so do what's best for your peoples.."

- Queen "Black Tigress".

[The Continent of Wild Endeavor]

The Allied States of the Continent of Wild Endeavor points out that a ban on atheism or any other action on that part is exceedingly difficult to enforce, regardless of moral implications: faking religion is pretty easy to pull off, as anyone could simply go from a head-strong atheist to a fervent worshiper simply by muttering to the air for about an hour each week. The Allied States also wishes to inform Molsona that, seeing as it has a modest record on the civil rights scale, now would be an excellent time to improve that standing, and thus the standing with other nations with high levels of rights.
If legislation is passed, measures to allow atheists to voluntarily leave the country should also be enacted.

[Galliand]

Galliand reaffirms the August 16 deadline and detains any Molsonan immigrants and travelers. They will be kept in maximum-security solitary confinement (unless two parties mutually request a joint cell) until this war boils over. The cells will be well-furnished and guards caught mistreating the refugees will be punished. The Galliandian military is mobilizing.

[Kummen]

The Federation of Kummen condemns Molsona for its blatant and outright contempt for human dignity and individual rights. We offer all Molsonan atheists asylum in Kummen where they will not be forced to change their beliefs and instead, be allowed to live their lives in any manner they choose, so long as it does not infringe on the individual rights of others. Additionally, we would like to offer the Molsonan government an ultimatum of our own:

Cease the persecution of atheism, remove this insulting poll by Friday, August 16 and repeal any and all anti-individualist laws you possess, put all involved with the passing of these vile laws, along with those responsible for enforcing them on trial for crimes against humanity, or face a full-scale military conflict against the forces of Kummen. If you either refuse us or attack us, you will bring about your obliteration. To this end, we have begun mobilizing the full might of our armed forces at the very edge of Molsona territory. Furthermore, we have elected to follow [nation]The Eastern Empire of Galliand's[/nation] lead and detain any Molsonan immigrants/travelers, where they will be kept in kept in maximum-security solitary confinement (unless two parties mutually request a joint cell) until the war ends. We have elected to yet again follow Galliand's lead and make certain the cells are well-furnished and punish and try any and all guards caught mistreating the refugees. The choice is yours, Molsona. You have 72 hours to confirm your compliance, it is suggested that you spend them wisely. And If you test this nation's military might, you will fail miserably.

[The Union of the West]

The Federation of Kummen condemns Molsona for its blatant and outright contempt for human dignity and individual rights. We offer all Molsonan atheists asylum in Kummen where they will not be forced to change their beliefs and instead, be allowed to live their lives in any manner they choose, so long as it does not infringe on the individual rights of others. Additionally, we would like to offer the Molsonan government an ultimatum of our own:

Cease the persecution of atheism, remove this insulting poll by Friday, August 16 and repeal any and all anti-individualist laws you possess, put all involved with the passing of these vile laws, along with those responsible for enforcing them on trial for crimes against humanity, or face a full-scale military conflict against the forces of Kummen. If you either refuse us or attack us, you will bring about your obliteration. And If you test this nation's military might, you will fail miserably. You have 72 hours to confirm your compliance, it is suggested that you spend them wisely. The choice is yours, Molsona.

To this end, we have begun mobilizing the full might of our armies at the edge of Molsona territory. Furthermore, we have elected to follow [nation]The Eastern Empire of Galliand's[/nation] lead and detain any Molsonan immigrants/travelers, where they will be kept in kept in maximum-security solitary confinement (unless two parties mutually request a joint cell) until the war ends. We have elected to yet again follow Galliand's lead and make certain the cells are well-furnished and punish and try any and all guards caught mistreating the refugees.

It is interesting that you condemn Molsona for it's outright contempt for human dignity, yet you threaten to put any Molsonan immigrant/traveler in maximum security solitary confinement.

[Kummen]

The Federation of Kummen condemns Molsona for its blatant and outright contempt for human dignity and individual rights. We offer all Molsonan atheists asylum in Kummen where they will not be forced to change their beliefs and instead, be allowed to live their lives in any manner they choose, so long as it does not infringe on the individual rights of others. Additionally, we would like to offer the Molsonan government an ultimatum of our own:

Cease the persecution of atheism, remove this insulting poll by Friday, August 16 and repeal any and all anti-individualist laws you possess, put all involved with the passing of these vile laws, along with those responsible for enforcing them on trial for crimes against humanity, or face a full-scale military conflict against the forces of Kummen. If you either refuse us or attack us, you will bring about your obliteration. To this end, we have begun mobilizing the full might of our armed forces at the very edge of Molsona territory. Furthermore, we have elected to follow [nation]The Eastern Empire of Galliand's[/nation] lead and detain any Molsonan immigrants/travelers, where they will be kept in kept in maximum-security solitary confinement (unless two parties mutually request a joint cell) until the war ends. We have elected to yet again follow Galliand's lead and make certain the cells are well-furnished and punish and try any and all guards caught mistreating the refugees. The choice is yours, Molsona. If you test this nation's military might, you will fail miserably. You have 72 hours to confirm your compliance, it is suggested that you spend them wisely.

It is interesting that you condemn Molsona for it's outright contempt for human dignity, yet you threaten to put any Molsonan immigrant/traveler in maximum security solitary confinement.

We condemned them and gave them an ultimatum, tension is going to be high. Combined with their theocratically motivated morality, there is a very good chance there will be a reprisal, regardless of whether or not Molsona sanctions it. This is the only way we can be certain that we get defectors, and not infiltrators. Unless you have a better idea, of course.

[Ruridova]

Stop persecuting them entirely.

[Galliand]

It is interesting that you condemn Molsona for it's outright contempt for human dignity, yet you threaten to put any Molsonan immigrant/traveler in maximum security solitary confinement.

We condemned them and gave them an ultimatum, tension is going to be high. Combined with their theocratically motivated morality, there is a very good chance there will be a reprisal, regardless of whether or not Molsona sanctions it. This is the only way we can be certain that we get defectors, and not infiltrators. Unless you have a better idea, of course.

OOC: Not to mention that we are doing everything in our power to ensure that the detectors are safe and comfortable.

[Greater Ilanar]

To: Molsona
From: Greater Ilanar

Message: Dear Leader of Molsona,

It has recently come to the attention of the Allied States of Greater Ilanar that your nation executes those who do not have faith in the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. We do not believe this is a Christian practice and nor are any of the alternatives offered proper for a free, Christian society. However, the Allied States have observed the threats made by other nations and offer military aid and assistance against your enemies so long as you pursue some course of action which does not put His children to death for not believing.

Sincerely'
Matthew O'Toole, Secretary of State of the Allied States of Greater Ilanar

[The Saint James Islands]

We will gladly accept any atheist refugees. We COMDEMN your brutal suppression of your atheist population, and call on Molsona to treat its atheist population fairly.

We Saint James Islanders shall do the same. Any refugees that Regnum Dominae cannot logistically handle the Saint James Islands will accept.
- His Excellency The Prime Minister William Lee Hennessey

[Neo Lugdnunum]

The Office for Foreign Relation of Neo Lugdnunum would like to offer Molsona a chance for peace, given that they allow their atheist community to leave the country safely with their possessions and that they get a refunding to make up for the loss of their houses. Neo Lugnunum is also willing to participate in the transport and relocation of the refugees.

If not, the Office of Colonial Affairs would be glad to add a new mandate to their hunting board.

[The Union of the West]

To: Molsona
From: Greater Ilanar

Message: Dear Leader of Molsona,

It has recently come to the attention of the Allied States of Greater Ilanar that your nation executes those who do not have faith in the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. We do not believe this is a Christian practice and nor are any of the alternatives offered proper for a free, Christian society. However, the Allied States have observed the threats made by other nations and offer military aid and assistance against your enemies so long as you pursue some course of action which does not put His children to death for not believing.

Sincerely'
Matthew O'Toole, Secretary of State of the Allied States of Greater Ilanar

This!

[Riflemoor]

Molsona should do nothing with their atheists. Barring the reasonable treatment of what apparently constitutes a second-class demographic in Molsona, deportation is preferable to all other courses of action listed in their survey. Riflemoor intends to accept any refugees deported from Molsona and would like to extend an open invitation to said country to deport their unwanted atheists to our country.
We must officially condemn your mistreatment of atheists and urge that you reconsider your strictures on the free practice of religion.

[The Union of the West]

The Union of the West urges Molsona to go with the solution it proposed, a higher tax rate on atheists. It's humane, may get atheists to leave, and is the best decision to make that will stop armed conflict. You can use the money to fund churches so that they can spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the atheists.

Union of the West World Assembly Office

[Darussalam]

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To: the Theocracy of Molsona
From: His Majesty Sultan Hassan VII of the Sultanate of Darussalam

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The Sultanate of Darussalam does not endorse this oppressive policy and unfair voting. While it is clear that the atheists are possessing mind not capable to thinking properly like regular civilised men, merchants or even the commoners as equal to the spear hocking niggers proven easily with fact that they are not capable in understanding the existence of higher being, it is an unfortunate bestowed by god to them to blinding them and darkening their hearts and as the standard bearer of liberties the Sultanate allows such people to coexist with others.

The Sultanate understands that if unlike civilised atheists of Darussalam, Molsonan atheists are antireligion thumping savages such as their basic forms, the Sultanate respects the right of sovereignty of Molsona since it is not an egregious violation of human rights unlike some barbarian nations unable to thinking anything not regarding war, blood and gore against 'oppressive countries'. We would like to remind you to reconsider your policies as yours are very inefficient and counter-productive.

Sultan Hassan XVII,
the Head of State and Government of Darussalam

[Hydronium]

God, all of them are so harsh. I mean, I realise that there are people like Richard Dawkins that are cramming atheism down people's throats, but that doesn't mean execute them, or "reeducate them."

[Slafstopia]

Any CHRISTIAN nations who wish to take my nations atheists, send me a telegram by tomorrow (August 14) at 21:00 UTC and I'll add you'r country's name to the poll and allow nations to vote on which nation to send them to.

We strongly, although peacefully, urge that you send your Christians to United Dalaran. They are an officially Christian nation who ban lots of immoral things, and it would avoid a war. I could contact Comrade Citizen, if you wish.

[Molsona]

Religious Purity Act

Article 1. This legislation officially recognizes Roman Catholicism as the official religion of Molsona
Article 2. The practice of any religion besides Christianity is illegal and may result in a prison sentence of the length defined by their religion, and deportation after the sentence is served

Article 2A. Followers of Abrahamic religions besides Christianity will receive to an 18 month prison sentence
Article 2B. Followers of Buddhism, Hinduism, or Taoism will receive a 30 month prison sentence
Article 2C. Followers of pagan religions (Wicca, Scientology, Shintoism, voodoo, New Age Movement, etc.) will receive a 4 year prison sentence.
Article 2D. Atheists/agnostics will receive a 5 year prison sentence
Article 2E. Followers of any religion not defined in Article 2 will have their prison sentence decided by a judge

Article 3. All offenders of Article 2 who are deported will be deported to The Commonwealth of Christian Union - http://www.nationstates.net/nation=christian_union

Article 4. All Christians who are not Catholic will be taxed 25% more than the flat tax rate

Article 5. Attendance of a weekend Catholic Mass is required weekly except in the case of extenuating circumstances

Article 6. Daily prayer is required in all schools in Molsona

Article 7. Religious education is compulsory between the ages of 6 and 14

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=molsona/detail=factbook/id=155480