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What should Molsona do with atheists

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What should we do with atheists

Poll ended at Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:19 pm

Execute them
17
16%
Deportation
58
54%
Re-education
16
15%
Send them to work camps
6
6%
Forced military service
11
10%
 
Total votes : 108

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Gebidia
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Postby Gebidia » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:18 pm

The Coalition of Catholic States will not in a million years allow for one of it's members (Molsona) to be invaded without a decent attempt to reach a peaceful resolution.

Gebidia condemns the disturbingly excessive militarism and anti-Catholic policy of the RIR. We resent Il Borgia Vaticano's declaration of a Crusade, as any type of Crusade based on religion is not the "true Christianity" that it claims to represent. If Molsona is attacked without any regard for the process of peace by the RIR and it's allies, a large Gebidian peacekeeping force WILL be deployed to defend the integrity of Molsona.

We continue to hope for a successful peace agreement, and the safety of both the Molsonan Catholics AND Molsona's small Atheist minority. As such we will be attending the peace conference.

Nation Name: Gebidia
Head of State: Marcus Oritas
Secretary of State or equivalent position: Supreme Ambassador, Riley Scott Baker.
List all attendees: (4) SA Riley Scott Baker (Delegate), President Marcus Oritas, General Eli Lombard, and Archbishop James Schmitz.
Security Personnel: 6
Your national religion or religion of majority: Multiple religions, but officially Roman Catholicism. It is our largest single faith, with about 40% of our population. About 20% of our nation is Irreligious.
How you voted on this issue: Re-Education
Do you agree to follow all laws of the host country: Yes
Any special concerns or requests: No
Dietary needs?: No
Will any drugs, animals, or plants be brought into the host country: No

We are against religious persecution and the Death Penalty in all of it's uses, so we will accept any Molsonan atheists seeking asylum for the time being.
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Mistelemr
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Postby Mistelemr » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:35 pm

Deport them to my country, we'll take them with open arms
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Wisconsin9
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Ex-Nation

Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:37 pm

Apologies to the Molsonan delegation, but worship is undertaken privately in the CSW, and there are no churches, Catholic or otherwise.
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Kummen
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Founded: Jun 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Kummen » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:40 pm

The Federation of Kummen wishes to make it known that it will not be present at the talks in any capacity, official or otherwise. However, we will honor the ultimatum and take no action beyond moving our forces to the Molsonan border until we either receive a reply, or until the ultimatum expires two days from now.

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The Saint James Islands
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Founded: May 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby The Saint James Islands » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:44 pm

You may want to include a seperate line for head of government, as many nations separate the two roles; the head of state of a particular nation, like the Saint James Islands, might not have any political power at all. I've included a separate line for HoG, as the roles are separate and the HoG has the real political power.

The Commonwealth is honestly appalled at the current state of affairs in regard to Molsona's policy. We are, in the interests of human dignity and freedom of conscience, disturbed by the recently declared policies and laws Molsona has passed. We are, in the interests of peace and diplomacy, disturbed by the warmongering and threats made against Molsona. Therefore we wish to attend these talks as a neutral party, in hopes that a diplomatic solution to this impasse may be found.

Nation Name: The Commonwealth of the Saint James Islands
Head of State: Maya Torrence-Flores, The President
Head of Government: William Lee Hennessey, The Prime Minister
Secretary of State or equivalent position: Christi Mattari-Lee, Chancellor of Foreign Affairs and John Catanajo, Chancellor of Home Affairs
List all attendees:
Rt Hon Christi Mattari-Lee: Member of Parliament for Westminster-on-the-Bay, Chancellor of Foreign Affairs (representing the Government)
Hon Johnathan Channing: Member of Parliament for Reading, Shadow Chancellor of Foreign Affairs (representing the Most Loyal Opposition)
Rt Hon Richard Taylor: Lord Mayor of Ticomaça (representing Her Excellency The President)
HH Nicholas V: Marshal of the Faithful, Patriarch of Saint George (representing the Christian community of the Saint James Islands)
Security personnel: 4 members of the Commonwealth Security Service
Peter Holtz, George Lyons, Nicuolo Terrablanca, Danielle Beecher
Your national religion or religion of majority: Officially secular; majority Christian (without regard to sect)
How you voted on this issue: Not at all
Do you agree to follow all laws of the host country: Yes
Any special concerns or requests: None
Dietary needs?: None
Will any drugs, animals, or plants be brought into the host country: No
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Molsona
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Ex-Nation

Postby Molsona » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:56 pm

Kummen wrote:The Federation of Kummen wishes to make it known that it will not be present at the talks in any capacity, official or otherwise. However, we will honor the ultimatum and take no action beyond moving our forces to the Molsonan border until we either receive a reply, or until the ultimatum expires two days from now.

There is no Molsonian border, we're an island country
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Anti-gay "marriage" - Marriage is only valid between a man and woman
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Molsona
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Ex-Nation

Postby Molsona » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:00 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:Apologies to the Molsonan delegation, but worship is undertaken privately in the CSW, and there are no churches, Catholic or otherwise.

The group of delegates would like to bring a priest along with them to lead a Catholic Mass for the Molsonian delegates and any other attendees of the conference who wish to attend the Mass.
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Pro-Life - Abortion is murder and should only be performed to save the mothers life, no exceptions.
Anti-Atheism - Atheism is dangerous.
Anti-Secularism - In any form where it is illegal for the government to fund religious institutions or have religious displays on public property.
Anti-gay "marriage" - Marriage is only valid between a man and woman
Anti-Promiscuity - Casual sex is disrespectful and demeaning to all involved and it is immoral.
Anti-Pornography - Porn is disgustingly immoral and degrades all involved, and only those who are addicted to it will defend it.
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Wisconsin9
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Ex-Nation

Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:03 pm

Molsona wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Apologies to the Molsonan delegation, but worship is undertaken privately in the CSW, and there are no churches, Catholic or otherwise.

The group of delegates would like to bring a priest along with them to lead a Catholic Mass for the Molsonian delegates and any other attendees of the conference who wish to attend the Mass.

Feel free to bring any religious figures you feel necessary.
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Wisconsin9
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:15 pm

Peace conference IC'll be up in a few hours.
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Molsona
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Postby Molsona » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:26 pm

When you get it started, just post a link on here
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Anti-Secularism - In any form where it is illegal for the government to fund religious institutions or have religious displays on public property.
Anti-gay "marriage" - Marriage is only valid between a man and woman
Anti-Promiscuity - Casual sex is disrespectful and demeaning to all involved and it is immoral.
Anti-Pornography - Porn is disgustingly immoral and degrades all involved, and only those who are addicted to it will defend it.
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Galliand
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Founded: Mar 26, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Galliand » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:46 pm

Nation name: Galliand
Position and name of conference delegate(s):
Akim Vlitzchev, Minister of Diplomacy
Number of security personnel: 5
Number of non-security attendees: 6
Special concerns/requests: We want a room overlooking the building so we can keep an eye out. We won't bring any weapons that can shoot that far, though.
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Sancta Sedes Romana
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Founded: Aug 12, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Sancta Sedes Romana » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:26 pm

The Theocracy of Sancta Sedes Romana condemns the poll regarding atheists in Molsona. Under democracy citizens of any nation should have freedom of religion, with which comes the freedom to be religious or not religious. Athiesm might not be a Christian ideology but it's presence should be acknowledged and accepted. And to merely answer the poll, the answer should be 'none of the above'.

Although Sancta Sedes Romana is a Roman Catholic nation, the well-being and basic rights of all citizens are upheld, and atheists would be welcomed if unjustly deported by Molsona.

Any actions taken, that harm the well-being and basic rights of a human being, may trigger a response.

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Wagafraga
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Posts: 44
Founded: Nov 22, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Wagafraga » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:45 pm

The Czardom of Wagafraga condemns Molsona for taking Gods word the wrong way. We are taught to evangelize, not persecute, and that life is sacred. That being said as the leader of the Coalition of Catholic States Army we shall defend Molsona and will invade RIR and any other nation that wishes war on Molsona.

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Kummen
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Founded: Jun 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Kummen » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:52 pm

Molsona wrote:
Kummen wrote:The Federation of Kummen wishes to make it known that it will not be present at the talks in any capacity, official or otherwise. However, we will honor the ultimatum and take no action beyond moving our forces to the Molsonan border until we either receive a reply, or until the ultimatum expires two days from now.

There is no Molsonian border, we're an island country

We count the landmass and surrounding islands near the Molsona to count. We should have worded that better.

OOC: I did not know that.

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The Northern Collective
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 102
Founded: Dec 10, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Northern Collective » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:29 pm

Nation name: The Allied States of the Northern Collective

Position and name of conference delegate(s):
Fabricator-General Malcolm Doyle
Secretary-General Allen Howel
Chief of Staff Artyom Zenislev
Chief Diplomat Molotov Demisnki

Number of security personnel: 50 Home Guard Elite Shocktroopers

Number of non-security attendees: 8 (2 aides to each delegate)

Special concerns/requests: A suite lower to the ground, 3rd or 4th floor is preferable. We do not like heights in the Northern Collective.

We've been part of this from the beginning and we intend to see it through to the end.

We also would like to applaud Molsona for agreeing to these talks and giving everyone a chance to smooth out these tensions. Also, we would like to thank Wisconsin9 for holding these talks in there borders and recognize the difficulty of setting these sorts of things up.

Hopefully, we can come to a better resolution than war and executions...
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The Northern Collective
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Northern Collective » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:31 pm

OOC: I'm a bit worried that this will go down in Nationstates history as the first unintentional religious war.
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Molsona
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Founded: Jul 15, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Molsona » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:43 pm

Kummen wrote:
Molsona wrote:There is no Molsonian border, we're an island country

We count the landmass and surrounding islands near the Molsona to count. We should have worded that better.

OOC: I did not know that.

The closest land to Molsona that isn't part of Molsona is Bermuda which is 200 miles away...
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Anti-Atheism - Atheism is dangerous.
Anti-Secularism - In any form where it is illegal for the government to fund religious institutions or have religious displays on public property.
Anti-gay "marriage" - Marriage is only valid between a man and woman
Anti-Promiscuity - Casual sex is disrespectful and demeaning to all involved and it is immoral.
Anti-Pornography - Porn is disgustingly immoral and degrades all involved, and only those who are addicted to it will defend it.
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The Greater Afghan Republic
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Founded: Oct 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Greater Afghan Republic » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:58 pm

Molsonan Government,

We are shocked and appalled that a nation that wishes to call itself civilized is still committing acts of unwarranted murder that was only allowed in the dark ages. that age is half a millenia passed, and these barbaric practices are no longer acceptable. We demand that these innocent people be turned over to more competent governments who will not discriminate on petty religious beliefs with the death penalty.

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Wisconsin9
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Ex-Nation

Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:11 pm

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Kummen
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Founded: Jun 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Kummen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:04 am

Molsona wrote:
Kummen wrote:We count the landmass and surrounding islands near the Molsona to count. We should have worded that better.

OOC: I did not know that.

The closest land to Molsona that isn't part of Molsona is Bermuda which is 200 miles away...

IC&OOC: Tomahawks can reach well past 200 miles. Besides, it's all semi-academic, seeing as Molsona has a little over 24 hours until the ultimatum expires.
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Karrgath
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Founded: Jul 29, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Karrgath » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:20 am

Forced Military Service or Work Camps is a viable practice for political dissidence so why not apply it to spiritual dissidence as well?

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Picts
Secretary
 
Posts: 33
Founded: Aug 15, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Picts » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:07 pm

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In the name of democracy, the basic rights of all human beings, the freedom of religion and the right to choose, the freedom to be religious or non-religious,
the Kingdom of Picts condemns the actions of the government of Molsona and is prepared to stand with coalition forces if war becomes inevitable.

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Ammar
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Founded: Jul 17, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Ammar » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:32 pm

Molsona, The Desert Republic of Ammar is willing to provide you with protection, if you are willing to comprimise with one thing. Unblock me and we'll talk privately.
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Kummen
Envoy
 
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Founded: Jun 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Kummen » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:45 am

To those who lead Molsona, the deadline has long since expired, and we have received no reply. However, because you are at a conference to rectify your policies, as well as avoid war, our government has chosen to extend the deadline until the 20th. If by then there is no reply, we will be forced to assume that you have chosen to reject our conditions and declare war on the the Federation of Kummen. We await a response from Molsona in the near future.

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Warburgsteinlandiastan
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Founded: Jun 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Warburgsteinlandiastan » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:55 pm

HMSEBH, Rodney II, regrets not being able to send a delegate at this time. However he has arranged with the Grand Inquisitor, Arch Cardinal Jebediah, for the preparation and delivery of 200 gallons of special grape flavored drink mix (non-alcoholic) to be served as a refreshment to the delegates. Rodney is providing commemorative paper cups with his own funds. Now drink up and smile.

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