Murder Party Takes Over Themiclesia [OoC]

[New Frenco Empire]

How is it going to create a happy medium if you were going against fascistic murderers in the first place? Are your troops going to just see thousands of women and children impaled with spikes, most still alive, some with "NFE" carved into their flesh with hot plasma blades and just go "Meh"?

It'll strengthen their resolve to fight even more, the allies come to mind after finding the first concentration camp.

Yeah, but the allies pretty much won at that point. Not to mention the psychological scarring a lot of troops had as a result of seeing the horrors.

[Themiclesia]

How is it going to create a happy medium if you were going against fascistic murderers in the first place? Are your troops going to just see thousands of women and children impaled with spikes, most still alive, some with "NFE" carved into their flesh with hot plasma blades and just go "Meh"?

It'll strengthen their resolve to fight even more, the allies come to mind after finding the first concentration camp.

That hasn't been the historical tendency after witnessing such a desolate and grotesque scene: might need a few more counsellors for that.

Anyway, more horrors await the nekoes, whether they like it or not.

[New Frenco Empire]

In fact, if our troops didn't cause such horrors themselves/weren't so arrogant, they'd be scared shitless in Oaledonia's position. No guarantee you'll be winning, and if you aren't killed, you could be captured, and may meet a fate like this.

[Oaledonia]

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That hasn't been the historical tendency...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe_Raid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arnhem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Castle_Turjak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Drazgose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Falaise_Gap

[New Frenco Empire]

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That hasn't been the historical tendency...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe_Raid

German Victory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arnhem

German Victory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Castle_Turjak

Not the slightest indication that "scare tactics" were used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Drazgose

German Victory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Falaise_Gap

See "castle turjak." D-Day was pretty much before they uncovered the concentration camps.

[New Frenco Empire]

I should open up a recruiting office for the Frenco Foreign Legion in Themiclesia. Of course, it wouldn't be there in time to change anything in the war, but if the Murderists are (hopefully) still in power, it'd be great.

[Oaledonia]

German Victory

Pyrrhic

German Victory

Pyrrhic

Not the slightest indication that "scare tactics" were used.

The entire Partisan movement was because of the atrocities

German Victory

Pyrrhic

See "castle turjak." D-Day was pretty much before they uncovered the concentration camps.

That entire advance was fueled by witnessing German NCOs killing children.

[Oaledonia]

I should open up a recruiting office for the Frenco Foreign Legion in Themiclesia. Of course, it wouldn't be there in time to change anything in the war, but if the Murderists are (hopefully) still in power, it'd be great.

Unfortunately for the Murderists, the allies can funnel much more supplies and troops at a faster rate

[Themiclesia]

Yes, but all that the Murder Party needs is a pyrrhic victory to hold the coalition off.

[New Frenco Empire]

German Victory

Pyrrhic

German Victory

Pyrrhic

Not the slightest indication that "scare tactics" were used.

The entire Partisan movement was because of the atrocities

German Victory

Pyrrhic

See "castle turjak." D-Day was pretty much before they uncovered the concentration camps.

That entire advance was fueled by witnessing German NCOs killing children.

But isn't your reason for intervening because of the atrocities? I know they would more than likely make your officers more determined, but witnessing women and children impaled on spikes, still screaming...only your most hard-nosed frontline troops won't be phased by it. Don't even get me started on the poor bastards who will have to go around doing the mercy killings...

[New Frenco Empire]

Yes, but all that the Murder Party needs is a pyrrhic victory to hold the coalition off.

Seems likely enough. You have two near-FT PMT nations and a huge meganation on your side against a relatively mid-PMT nations, a relatively far-PMT nation, and a ton of MT nations. I could see everything from Southwood westwards staying under Murderist control, and everything to the east and south being under Coalition control. Maybe an RP sequel involving divided Themiclesia

[Oaledonia]

Yes, but all that the Murder Party needs is a pyrrhic victory to hold the coalition off.

Seems likely enough. You have two near-FT PMT nations and a huge meganation on your side against a relatively mid-PMT nations, a relatively far-PMT nation, and a ton of MT nations. I could see everything from Southwood westwards staying under Murderist control, and everything to the east and south being under Coalition control. Maybe an RP sequel involving divided Themiclesia

Cold war....

Nah, we gonna wreck it

[Themiclesia]

In time the Murder Party will surrender on condition that all war criminals be tried in a Themioi court under Themioi law, and that their reforms, at least the beneficial ones, are not reversed.

[Oaledonia]

In time the Murder Party will surrender on condition that all war criminals be tried in a Themioi court under Themioi law, and that their reforms, at least the beneficial ones, are not reversed.

It will be an unconditional surrender, sawwy :c

[New Frenco Empire]

In time the Murder Party will surrender on condition that all war criminals be tried in a Themioi court under Themioi law, and that their reforms, at least the beneficial ones, are not reversed.

Why give up? You're far from losing. Ardavia and Konoronia have landed, the NFE has dug in hard enough to defend the Murderist west, and your new policies are bound to bring in more local support.

[Themiclesia]

In time the Murder Party will surrender on condition that all war criminals be tried in a Themioi court under Themioi law, and that their reforms, at least the beneficial ones, are not reversed.

Why give up? You're far from losing. Ardavia and Konoronia have landed, the NFE has dug in hard enough to defend the Murderist west, and your new policies are bound to bring in more local support.

Oh we're definitely not giving up. That's just for Oaledonia to lessen her guard.

They're here to stay.

[Themiclesia]

In time the Murder Party will surrender on condition that all war criminals be tried in a Themioi court under Themioi law, and that their reforms, at least the beneficial ones, are not reversed.

It will be an unconditional surrender, sawwy :c

Themioi never surrender unconditionally.

[Oaledonia]

Why give up? You're far from losing. Ardavia and Konoronia have landed, the NFE has dug in hard enough to defend the Murderist west, and your new policies are bound to bring in more local support.

Oh we're definitely not giving up. That's just for Oaledonia to lessen her guard.

They're here to stay.

Why bother? You're outnumbered, under supplied, all ready in retreat, surrounded, and out gunned (Inb4 NFE)

[Arulean States]

Summary?

[Oaledonia]

It will be an unconditional surrender, sawwy :c

Themioi never surrender unconditionally.

Hmmm, Japan said that once......

[New Frenco Empire]

Though, I'm no fool. If it does come to surrender, Krieg, Mark, and any other main Murderist figure can have a Government-in-exile in the NFE.

Also, I'll be introducing Frenkish medical science to the Themioi. Jane can pull through, after all. Zane has been monitoring Mark for quite some time, now. Being on his good side is a plus.

[Oaledonia]

Though, I'm no fool. If it does come to surrender, Krieg, Mark, and any other main Murderist figure can have a Government-in-exile in the NFE.

Also, I'll be introducing Frenkish medical science to the Themioi. Jane can pull through, after all. Zane has been monitoring Mark for quite some time, now. Being on his good side is a plus.

One of the conditions will be an OAF military contingency

[Themiclesia]

Summary?

Yes. A few pages ago there's a map, and we're working off that.

Currently we have two factions:

Pro-Revolution:
New Regime in Themiclesia
New Frenco Empire - landed in Southwood
Konariona - landing in Lundenwic
Ardavia - currently not present yet

Counterrevolution:
New Tyran - control over the southernmost part of Themiclesia, and Cyningesport
Oaledonia - control over several islands in the seas
New Lowlands - control over Lundenwic
Florribea - still sailing

[Themiclesia]

Though, I'm no fool. If it does come to surrender, Krieg, Mark, and any other main Murderist figure can have a Government-in-exile in the NFE.

Also, I'll be introducing Frenkish medical science to the Themioi. Jane can pull through, after all. Zane has been monitoring Mark for quite some time, now. Being on his good side is a plus.

Mark's not a person you want by your side... at least not always.

[New Frenco Empire]

Though, I'm no fool. If it does come to surrender, Krieg, Mark, and any other main Murderist figure can have a Government-in-exile in the NFE.

Also, I'll be introducing Frenkish medical science to the Themioi. Jane can pull through, after all. Zane has been monitoring Mark for quite some time, now. Being on his good side is a plus.

Mark's not a person you want by your side... at least not always.

The boy is ruthless, violent, and amoral...pretty much any NFE leader ever. He has great potential.