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The question is, that the song be adopted as the theme song for this RP.

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Vivern
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Postby Vivern » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:27 pm

Releign wrote:I am just...so...tired....


I'm getting pretty tired too. I'll just add one more post (hopefully better quality), and then go to bed. Anyway, I will look for ways to improve my writing.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:29 pm

Themiclesia wrote:
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Oh, no no no. If anything, you beat me in overall quality. I'm actually trying to read through yours and take a few hints.


"...if you think..."

You = everybody. :)


Am I not included in the "everybody" demographic? :eyebrow:
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Postby The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:49 pm

Nation Name: The Allied States of the Revolutionary Fighters of Intel
Head of Government: Jake Smither (Elected Yesterday)
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, or Equivalent: Shane Herick
Commander-in-Chief of Military: Elizabeth Tiltson

Total Military Strength: 415 000
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:52 pm

The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel wrote:Nation Name: The Allied States of the Revolutionary Fighters of Intel
Head of Government: Jake Smither (Elected Yesterday)
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, or Equivalent: Shane Herick
Commander-in-Chief of Military: Elizabeth Tiltson

Total Military Strength: 415 000

Accepted. :)
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The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel
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Postby The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:55 pm

Can I just change my army size to 1 million?
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:56 pm

The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel wrote:Can I just change my army size to 1 million?

Sure, but we should keep deployment to a reasonable level, which definition I will leave to you.
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Postby Ardavia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:36 pm

Uhhh, guys, just saying, if anyone was wondering.

Those radiation bombs are easily stopped with airtight vehicles, so they're not supposed to be OP
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The Soviet League
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Postby The Soviet League » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:06 am

Unless they are extremely well designed and expensive, these radiological bombs can take to the wind and actually settle n the ground far away. Might be good for you if it settles on occupied territory, but bad for you if not.
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Postby Ardavia » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:17 am

The Soviet League wrote:Unless they are extremely well designed and expensive, these radiological bombs can take to the wind and actually settle n the ground far away. Might be good for you if it settles on occupied territory, but bad for you if not.


They're not releasing actual radioactive particles, they project gamma rays
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New Tyran
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Postby New Tyran » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:18 am

Blurred Lines (Unrated Version) is my favorite music video. Period.

Anyway, I should get a post up soon.

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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:32 am

Ardavia wrote:
The Soviet League wrote:Unless they are extremely well designed and expensive, these radiological bombs can take to the wind and actually settle n the ground far away. Might be good for you if it settles on occupied territory, but bad for you if not.


They're not releasing actual radioactive particles, they project gamma rays

Three quick problems with this:

(1) Gamma rays will pass through thin layers of most material, so they'll still affect pilots regardless of how airtight the plane is.
(2) By the same logic, they will radiate out in all directions and affect all soldiers and ground troops within visual range of the bomb.
(3) I'm not sure how you could create Gamma radiation separately from Alpha and Beta particles, but I believe that the gamma rays will produce radioactive particles themselves by energizing atoms in the air.

I could go on in more detail after finding a more detailed source about radiation and its effects, but in general "controlled-radiation bombs" will often get you a reputation as a n00b.
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Postby Ardavia » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:33 am

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Ardavia wrote:
They're not releasing actual radioactive particles, they project gamma rays

Three quick problems with this:

(1) Gamma rays will pass through thin layers of most material, so they'll still affect pilots regardless of how airtight the plane is.
(2) By the same logic, they will radiate out in all directions and affect all soldiers and ground troops within visual range of the bomb.
(3) I'm not sure how you could create Gamma radiation separately from Alpha and Beta particles, but I believe that the gamma rays will produce radioactive particles themselves by energizing atoms in the air.

I could go on in more detail after finding a more detailed source about radiation and its effects, but in general "controlled-radiation bombs" will often get you a reputation as a n00b.


ok, I'll remake it into AA laser fire ok
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Postby The Soviet League » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:52 am

My Bloodmoons and Knights could see them coming and escape if it's just one large beam firing.
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State Religion: None/Secularism
Military Population (Active): 5 million
Military Population (Reserves): 10 million
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Postby Ardavia » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:00 am

The Soviet League wrote:My Bloodmoons and Knights could see them coming and escape if it's just one large beam firing.


No, there are dozens of smaller beams coming from all over Southwood
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:42 am

Ardavia wrote:
The Soviet League wrote:My Bloodmoons and Knights could see them coming and escape if it's just one large beam firing.


No, there are dozens of smaller beams coming from all over Southwood

Overall, I'd say laser AA is one of the more effective uses of PMT; there's no need to lead the target with a speed-of-light "projectile," and the enemy will have no time to detect, evade, or use countermeasures. The launchers might be easy to find and destroy, though.

In the 1980s, the Soviets made numerous attempts to design "laser tanks" that would blind enemy soldiers and equipment, or even destroy incoming ballistic missiles - the Red counterpart to the ill-fated "Star Wars" project in the USA. While several prototypes were built and tested successfully, the combination of massive costs and poor reliability led the designers to abandon the programs in favor of conventional Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems and SAMs.
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Postby Releign » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:29 am

Uh, we haven't entered the battle yet. None of us are shooting >.>

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The Soviet League
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Postby The Soviet League » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:53 am

Yet again you are flying towards us from the enemy's airspace. We shoot.
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State Religion: None/Secularism
Military Population (Active): 5 million
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Postby Releign » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:01 am

The Soviet League wrote:Yet again you are flying towards us from the enemy's airspace. We shoot.

Yes, but we have not shot and your post said the 'Ones not shooting' when we haven't even fired a shot.

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Postby The Soviet League » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:19 am

They think they may be kamikaze fighters.
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Full Name: The Union of Socialist Soviet Republics (USSR)
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State Religion: None/Secularism
Military Population (Active): 5 million
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Postby Releign » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:33 am

The Soviet League wrote:They think they may be kamikaze fighters.

That makes sense.
I mean, I would never purposefully blow up a newer model.
Hmmm....

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Postby Oaledonia » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:34 am

I'll have a good post later.
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:41 am

@The Soviet League: As I said earlier:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:(2) Remember that your forces aren't all-knowing; they can't predict every attack that comes their way. Yes, there are times when you can react effectively, but the fighting shouldn't devolve into a bunch of units miraculously counteracting each other's attacks. Take losses every now and then, and let yourself be caught by surprise; hopefully your opponent will do the same.

At this distance, there's no reasonable way to tell if the enemy aircraft are suicide planes or not. It makes for a better RP if you let them get close then respond in shock as they ram, instead of miraculously guessing the entire enemy strategy from the very start.


@Releign: I do hope those suicide aircraft are going to be used in ground attack, not air-to-air combat. I believe a 200-kg bomb has a roughly 100-meter kill radius, while most modern air combat rarely involves distances under 200 meters. Against rapidly maneuvering, oncoming supersonic fighters it would take superhuman precision to get the plane close enough to ensure a kill. However, if the target is a slow-moving bomber or a warship with very little AA, the chances of a direct collision are very good.
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Postby Releign » Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:58 am

The Soodean Imperium wrote:@The Soviet League: As I said earlier:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:(2) Remember that your forces aren't all-knowing; they can't predict every attack that comes their way. Yes, there are times when you can react effectively, but the fighting shouldn't devolve into a bunch of units miraculously counteracting each other's attacks. Take losses every now and then, and let yourself be caught by surprise; hopefully your opponent will do the same.

At this distance, there's no reasonable way to tell if the enemy aircraft are suicide planes or not. It makes for a better RP if you let them get close then respond in shock as they ram, instead of miraculously guessing the entire enemy strategy from the very start.


@Releign: I do hope those suicide aircraft are going to be used in ground attack, not air-to-air combat. I believe a 200-kg bomb has a roughly 100-meter kill radius, while most modern air combat rarely involves distances under 200 meters. Against rapidly maneuvering, oncoming supersonic fighters it would take superhuman precision to get the plane close enough to ensure a kill. However, if the target is a slow-moving bomber or a warship with very little AA, the chances of a direct collision are very good.

They are not meant to do any real damage. They are just going to explode, hopefully confuse and scatter people, making it easier to pick people off.

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Postby Leningrad Union » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:19 am

Help defend me against Ralkovia: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=260862

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Postby New Tyran » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:29 am

Leningrad Union wrote:Help defend me against Ralkovia: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=260862


You're on your own there buddy.

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