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[Alahana]

well, they are way less destructive than orbital weapons, they have way less range, and they alse can be countered...sort of

Ever tried countering something flung at 1/10th the speed of light? (I think that's the speed...)

Because we don't want biblical esq hellfire raining down on us to decimate our colonies. Whose to say that someone won't just use them to flatten a city with a barrage. If they are used on defenses then an enemy army can just roll in and flatten everything else with ease after our defenses are destroyed. Or just as bad we have mutually assured destruction. Not exactly fun for the non-warlike or the more conventional war practicing nation.

You clearly did not see the uses of orbital weapons that should be used here in this thread.

Look, if you want to use orbital weaponery fine, go ahead, but keep in mind that there are people who don't want to rp with orbital weapons, let me demonstrate you how it will go:

"Sir the enemy just destroyed our capital city." an soldier said to his officer

"What? okay give me full controll of the orbital strike canons, we will have our revenge." the officer replied while destroying the enemy army.

[Canuckland]

Ever tried countering something flung at 1/10th the speed of light? (I think that's the speed...)


You clearly did not see the uses of orbital weapons that should be used here in this thread.

Look, if you want to use orbital weaponery fine, go ahead, but keep in mind that there are people who don't want to rp with orbital weapons, let me demonstrate you how it will go:

"Sir the enemy just destroyed our capital city." an soldier said to his officer

"What? okay give me full controll of the orbital strike canons, we will have our revenge." the officer replied while destroying the enemy army.

That part can be banned.

Again, I'd only use them in last stand situations.

Something a little like this.

[Alahana]

Look, if you want to use orbital weaponery fine, go ahead, but keep in mind that there are people who don't want to rp with orbital weapons, let me demonstrate you how it will go:

"Sir the enemy just destroyed our capital city." an soldier said to his officer

"What? okay give me full controll of the orbital strike canons, we will have our revenge." the officer replied while destroying the enemy army.

That part can be banned.

Again, I'd only use them in last stand situations.

Something a little like this.

Well okay thats good. That means you wouldn't use them against orbital defences.
But still no use of WMD's

[Azaflaza]

Cascadan let me have his colony, most of it will go to Pangea so if you could just extend the border line to the lake in his territory that'll be great.

[Canuckland]

That part can be banned.

Again, I'd only use them in last stand situations.

Something a little like this.

Well okay thats good. That means you wouldn't use them against orbital defences.

Actually, there is a counter against orbital defences. I would link it, but it's like an hour long video of air warfare in the future. It's so long and it'd take me forever just to find the one part.

But it works like this: Kinetic Energy Projectiles fired on a missile scale to target anything in space. It would need no payload, the speed enough to destroy what would be a fragile satellite.

[Azaflaza]

On another note we should probably have a UFA meeting.

[Alahana]

Well okay thats good. That means you wouldn't use them against orbital defences.

Actually, there is a counter against orbital defences. I would link it, but it's like an hour long video of air warfare in the future. It's so long and it'd take me forever just to find the one part.

But it works like this: Kinetic Energy Projectiles fired on a missile scale to target anything in space. It would need no payload, the speed enough to destroy what would be a fragile satellite.

So you are against the use of defences but you are okay with defences? Okay... whut?

On another note we should probably have a UFA meeting.

About what?

[Canuckland]

Actually, there is a counter against orbital defences. I would link it, but it's like an hour long video of air warfare in the future. It's so long and it'd take me forever just to find the one part.

But it works like this: Kinetic Energy Projectiles fired on a missile scale to target anything in space. It would need no payload, the speed enough to destroy what would be a fragile satellite.

So you are against the use of defences but you are okay with defences? Okay... whut?

On another note we should probably have a UFA meeting.

About what?

I'm saying that they shouldn't be 100% and one or two out of ten should be able to get through. Since everyone is so hellbent on making sure that orbital weapons seem like nukes.

But I'm also saying your defences aren't safe.

[Alahana]

So you are against the use of defences but you are okay with defences? Okay... whut?


About what?

I'm saying that they shouldn't be 100% and one or two out of ten should be able to get through. Since everyone is so hellbent on making sure that orbital weapons seem like nukes.

But I'm also saying your defences aren't safe.

Okay will agree to the orbital weapons on the next conditions, else there won't be orbital weapons:
1)Nations that don't want to participate in an orbital weapon race don't have to, they are protected by defences
2) Okay no 100% protection, but those rockets costs huge amounts of money so you won't be able to spam them, and MAYBE one or two rokets come through the defences.
3) No wmd's, WMD's are not allowed at any time.

[Azaflaza]

Actually, there is a counter against orbital defences. I would link it, but it's like an hour long video of air warfare in the future. It's so long and it'd take me forever just to find the one part.

But it works like this: Kinetic Energy Projectiles fired on a missile scale to target anything in space. It would need no payload, the speed enough to destroy what would be a fragile satellite.

So you are against the use of defences but you are okay with defences? Okay... whut?

On another note we should probably have a UFA meeting.

About what?

Well I have some things I want to put forward, but generally i guess alliances meet up every so often to discuss issues.

[Canuckland]

I'm saying that they shouldn't be 100% and one or two out of ten should be able to get through. Since everyone is so hellbent on making sure that orbital weapons seem like nukes.

But I'm also saying your defences aren't safe.

Okay will agree to the orbital weapons on the next conditions, else there won't be orbital weapons:
1)Nations that don't want to participate in an orbital weapon race don't have to, they are protected by defences
2) Okay no 100% protection, but those rockets costs huge amounts of money so you won't be able to spam them, and MAYBE one or two rokets come through the defences.
3) No wmd's, WMD's are not allowed at any time.

1) k.
2. k. (We should agree on odds of how OKEP's should get through)
3: k. (Nukes and stuff, right?)

[Alahana]

Okay will agree to the orbital weapons on the next conditions, else there won't be orbital weapons:
1)Nations that don't want to participate in an orbital weapon race don't have to, they are protected by defences
2) Okay no 100% protection, but those rockets costs huge amounts of money so you won't be able to spam them, and MAYBE one or two rokets come through the defences.
3) No wmd's, WMD's are not allowed at any time.

1) k.
2. k. (We should agree on odds of how OKEP's should get through)
3: k. (Nukes and stuff, right?)

Just remember, that many nation have defences, and those defences will be very effective against orbital weaponery. And this also means that other nations are allowed to use space weaponery. And also rockets are quite expensive, so spmming them is not an option, if you are in luck you can get a normal sized through the defences.

So basicly it will be extremely expensive for what it actually does...

[Canuckland]

1) k.
2. k. (We should agree on odds of how OKEP's should get through)
3: k. (Nukes and stuff, right?)

Just remember, that many nation have defences, and those defences will be very effective against orbital weaponery. And this also means that other nations are allowed to use space weaponery. And also rockets are quite expensive, so spmming them is not an option, if you are in luck you can get a normal sized through the defences.

So basicly it will be extremely expensive for what it actually does...

But like you said, they have to deactivate their defences to use their missiles.

These aren't rockets, they're basically glorified missiles in SPACE!.

[Alahana]

Just remember, that many nation have defences, and those defences will be very effective against orbital weaponery. And this also means that other nations are allowed to use space weaponery. And also rockets are quite expensive, so spmming them is not an option, if you are in luck you can get a normal sized through the defences.

So basicly it will be extremely expensive for what it actually does...

But like you said, they have to deactivate their defences to use their missiles.

These aren't rockets, they're basically glorified missiles in SPACE!.

Missiles = rockets and like I said, they are still not capable of WMD's destruction, and defences can stop them with a very high rate of succes.

[Canuckland]

But like you said, they have to deactivate their defences to use their missiles.

These aren't rockets, they're basically glorified missiles in SPACE!.

Missiles = rockets and like I said, they are still not capable of WMD's destruction, and defences can stop them with a very high rate of succes.

I still say a 75% success rate. Or even an 80% success rate.

[Volvek]

Missiles are not rockets. Missiles have guiding systems that help them hit their target while rockets are simply "dumb munitions".

[Alahana]

Missiles = rockets and like I said, they are still not capable of WMD's destruction, and defences can stop them with a very high rate of succes.

I still say a 75% success rate. Or even an 80% success rate.

What okay no...just no.
We are just going back to the plan of everyone that don't want space weaponery can have defences with 100% succes rate of holding of space weaponery.

Missiles are not rockets. Missiles have guiding systems that help them hit their target while rockets are simply "dumb munitions".

Oh, okay didn't know that ^^



Oh and btw Lawsonton decided that i could have his lands so i'll give the west side of the river to me and the east side to Azaflaza to keep the natural border.

[Canuckland]

I still say a 75% success rate. Or even an 80% success rate.

What okay no...just no.
We are just going back to the plan of everyone that don't want space weaponery can have defences with 100% succes rate of holding of space weaponery.

Missiles are not rockets. Missiles have guiding systems that help them hit their target while rockets are simply "dumb munitions".

Oh, okay didn't know that ^^



Oh and btw Lawsonton decided that i could have his lands so i'll give the west side of the river to me and the east side to Azaflaza to keep the natural border.

I thought we just agreed orbital weapons could get through?

Oh, I meant the defences have a 75%-80% chance of beating off the nukes.

[Alahana]

What okay no...just no.
We are just going back to the plan of everyone that don't want space weaponery can have defences with 100% succes rate of holding of space weaponery.


Oh, okay didn't know that ^^



Oh and btw Lawsonton decided that i could have his lands so i'll give the west side of the river to me and the east side to Azaflaza to keep the natural border.

I thought we just agreed orbital weapons could get through?

Oh, I meant the defences have a 75%-80% chance of beating off the nukes.

Okay that is a reasonable amount, but still... no nukes/wmd's

[Canuckland]

I thought we just agreed orbital weapons could get through?

Oh, I meant the defences have a 75%-80% chance of beating off the nukes Orbital Kinetic Strikes.

Okay that is a reasonable amount, but still... no nukes/wmd's

Worded it wrong, thinking of something else at the time.

[Sheng China]

Well, if you asked first it actually belongs to you, except if someone else gets permission to have it, if there is no response within 24 hours, the nation that asked the lands fist will recieve them.
Like Lawsonton, i've asked him somewhere at the start of the second azuran war if i could have his lands, now when marked him as inactive so i messaged him if he already know what he would do then he said he didn't know how to rp so i have to explain it to him, and then quirina also asked for his lands. So if it takes to long for him to understand what to do in an rp i will make his colony my protectorate and if it then still takes to long i will take his lands.

Oh, very well then. I guess the land is technically mine then sense Quirina denied Florida Liberation's conditions.

[Canuckland]

Well, if you asked first it actually belongs to you, except if someone else gets permission to have it, if there is no response within 24 hours, the nation that asked the lands fist will recieve them.
Like Lawsonton, i've asked him somewhere at the start of the second azuran war if i could have his lands, now when marked him as inactive so i messaged him if he already know what he would do then he said he didn't know how to rp so i have to explain it to him, and then quirina also asked for his lands. So if it takes to long for him to understand what to do in an rp i will make his colony my protectorate and if it then still takes to long i will take his lands.

Oh, very well then. I guess the land is technically mine then sense Quirina denied Florida Liberation's conditions.

Hey, just a friendly reminder you have Orbital weapons too....

*Creeps back into the darkness*

[Azaflaza]

Orbital Defense System

No he didn't.

[Canuckland]

Orbital Defense System

No he didn't.

Alahana said that you have either Orbital Defence Systems or Orbital Kinetic Systems operation at once, so it's the choice between defending or attacking. So he can deactivate his defence system to use the offence system.

[Azaflaza]

No he didn't.

Alahana said that you have either Orbital Defence Systems or Orbital Kinetic Systems operation at once, so it's the choice between defending or attacking. So he can deactivate his defence system to use the offence system.

But he can't change back. Therefor you would be able to use yours on him when you try to reclaim your territory.