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Volvek
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Postby Volvek » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:01 pm

Actually I could just pour salt in it and starve your people. Then offer foreign aid and make a hell of a lot of money.
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Azaflaza
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Postby Azaflaza » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:04 pm

Volvek wrote:Actually I could just pour salt in it and starve your people. Then offer foreign aid and make a hell of a lot of money.

And how do you plan to secretly pour the amount of salt required into it without anyone finding out. Plus do you not think we already have contingency plans of our own in the event of a mass famine?

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Volvek
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Postby Volvek » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:34 pm

Dump trucks or crates dropped from orbit.
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Canuckland
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Founded: Apr 13, 2013
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Postby Canuckland » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:58 pm

Volvek wrote:Dump trucks or crates dropped from orbit.

Crates dropped from orbit?

Why waste resources on crates of salt when you can orbital kinetic stuff?
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Quirina
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Postby Quirina » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:00 pm

I now annex number Florida liberation (16) and Lawsonton's (43) colonies after not responding within three days. Another annexation please? Hahaha :twisted:
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Alahana
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Founded: Apr 30, 2013
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Postby Alahana » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:10 pm

Azaflaza wrote:
Volvek wrote:Actually I could just pour salt in it and starve your people. Then offer foreign aid and make a hell of a lot of money.

And how do you plan to secretly pour the amount of salt required into it without anyone finding out. Plus do you not think we already have contingency plans of our own in the event of a mass famine?

Water streams from high to low, so if he poisons the water, he will get his own people killed :P (plus the ones of you) And then he would have to go to someone elses territory and tresspass them wich that nation won't like.

Volvek wrote:Dump trucks or crates dropped from orbit.

And how will that be unnoticed xD

Canuckland wrote:
Volvek wrote:Dump trucks or crates dropped from orbit.

Crates dropped from orbit?

Why waste resources on crates of salt when you can orbital kinetic stuff?

Orbital weapons don't do anything agaist people who have defences against it (the defences hold of all orbital weapons) and even when the opposite nation doesn't have defences they won't do alot of damage, when they do to much damage it will be considered godmodding.
"Even When broken a sword may still cut."
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Konstantinye
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Founded: Oct 12, 2012
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Postby Konstantinye » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:27 pm

Signing off for now. So we'll continue that argument tomorrow Sheng :p . Since I'm in school now I probably won't post anything until about 7:30 pm Central Standard Time from now on.

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Alahana
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Postby Alahana » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:59 am

Quirina wrote:I now annex number Florida liberation (16) and Lawsonton's (43) colonies after not responding within three days. Another annexation please? Hahaha :twisted:

Florida liberation didn't respond for confirmation so you get that land, but lawsonton said he didn't recieve any message, so i won't give Lawsonton.
"Even When broken a sword may still cut."
Crowned Republic
Monarch is Phoenix King Gerrit II
Population of 104 million


20 yrs old
"Aquarius"
Hetero
Caucasian
Belgian
Hobbies are Gaming, MMA and bodybuilding
Security agent and wannabe DJ
♫♫I'm a hardbass junkie♫♫

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Canuckland
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Postby Canuckland » Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:59 am

Alahana wrote:
Azaflaza wrote:And how do you plan to secretly pour the amount of salt required into it without anyone finding out. Plus do you not think we already have contingency plans of our own in the event of a mass famine?

Water streams from high to low, so if he poisons the water, he will get his own people killed :P (plus the ones of you) And then he would have to go to someone elses territory and tresspass them wich that nation won't like.

Volvek wrote:Dump trucks or crates dropped from orbit.

And how will that be unnoticed xD

Canuckland wrote:Crates dropped from orbit?

Why waste resources on crates of salt when you can orbital kinetic stuff?

Orbital weapons don't do anything agaist people who have defences against it (the defences hold of all orbital weapons) and even when the opposite nation doesn't have defences they won't do alot of damage, when they do to much damage it will be considered godmodding.

So you're saying Orbital Kinetic Bombardments are supposed to do the absolute opposite of what they are intended to do?
Please call me 'Canuck.'
Also, here's my Factbook WIP Factbook.

Factbook update incoming any day now...

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Lakaii
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Lakaii » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:01 am

I annex polarion empire after confirmation of him.

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Alahana
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Postby Alahana » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:05 am

Canuckland wrote:
Alahana wrote:Water streams from high to low, so if he poisons the water, he will get his own people killed :P (plus the ones of you) And then he would have to go to someone elses territory and tresspass them wich that nation won't like.


And how will that be unnoticed xD


Orbital weapons don't do anything agaist people who have defences against it (the defences hold of all orbital weapons) and even when the opposite nation doesn't have defences they won't do alot of damage, when they do to much damage it will be considered godmodding.

So you're saying Orbital Kinetic Bombardments are supposed to do the absolute opposite of what they are intended to do?


I don't know what you mean, but all I say is that they cannot be used against people with orbital defences (defences against orbital weapons) This is to protect people who are against the use of them. And people who want those defenes are not allowed to have orbital weapons, so it is having orbital weapons or orbital defences, not both. And orbital weapons cannot do alot of damage becouse that would be the same as using bombs with huge explosions (don't know the exact english word for it :S)
"Even When broken a sword may still cut."
Crowned Republic
Monarch is Phoenix King Gerrit II
Population of 104 million


20 yrs old
"Aquarius"
Hetero
Caucasian
Belgian
Hobbies are Gaming, MMA and bodybuilding
Security agent and wannabe DJ
♫♫I'm a hardbass junkie♫♫

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Quirina
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Founded: Dec 30, 2010
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Postby Quirina » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:40 am

Alahana wrote:
Quirina wrote:I now annex number Florida liberation (16) and Lawsonton's (43) colonies after not responding within three days. Another annexation please? Hahaha :twisted:

Florida liberation didn't respond for confirmation so you get that land, but lawsonton said he didn't recieve any message, so i won't give Lawsonton.

I still have the telegram I sent to Lawsonton. Please check it to him again.
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Alahana
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Founded: Apr 30, 2013
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Postby Alahana » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:42 am

Quirina wrote:
Alahana wrote:Florida liberation didn't respond for confirmation so you get that land, but lawsonton said he didn't recieve any message, so i won't give Lawsonton.

I still have the telegram I sent to Lawsonton. Please check it to him again.

Well whe i tg'ed him he said he didn't understand rp and he asked me stuff about how to post rp things and stuff?
"Even When broken a sword may still cut."
Crowned Republic
Monarch is Phoenix King Gerrit II
Population of 104 million


20 yrs old
"Aquarius"
Hetero
Caucasian
Belgian
Hobbies are Gaming, MMA and bodybuilding
Security agent and wannabe DJ
♫♫I'm a hardbass junkie♫♫

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Tech: mainly MT/PMT | DEFCON 5: Peacetime | Demonym : Alahanese

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Lakaii
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Founded: May 11, 2013
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Postby Lakaii » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:48 am

Schmiegelland (51) and united martians(53) didn't respond on my tg that i send them 4 days ago, does that mean i get the lands?

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Canuckland
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Founded: Apr 13, 2013
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Postby Canuckland » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:41 pm

Alahana wrote:
Canuckland wrote:So you're saying Orbital Kinetic Bombardments are supposed to do the absolute opposite of what they are intended to do?


I don't know what you mean, but all I say is that they cannot be used against people with orbital defences (defences against orbital weapons) This is to protect people who are against the use of them. And people who want those defenes are not allowed to have orbital weapons, so it is having orbital weapons or orbital defences, not both. And orbital weapons cannot do alot of damage becouse that would be the same as using bombs with huge explosions (don't know the exact english word for it :S)

That also implies that Countermeasures work 100% of the time.
Please call me 'Canuck.'
Also, here's my Factbook WIP Factbook.

Factbook update incoming any day now...

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Alahana
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Postby Alahana » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:44 pm

Canuckland wrote:
Alahana wrote:
I don't know what you mean, but all I say is that they cannot be used against people with orbital defences (defences against orbital weapons) This is to protect people who are against the use of them. And people who want those defenes are not allowed to have orbital weapons, so it is having orbital weapons or orbital defences, not both. And orbital weapons cannot do alot of damage becouse that would be the same as using bombs with huge explosions (don't know the exact english word for it :S)

That also implies that Countermeasures work 100% of the time.

Yes, you know not everyone wants these orbital strikes, the defences is to protect the ones that don't want them .
becouse think about it, if these orbital weapons would be allowed at any time, the contiennt will be ruined within a day...
"Even When broken a sword may still cut."
Crowned Republic
Monarch is Phoenix King Gerrit II
Population of 104 million


20 yrs old
"Aquarius"
Hetero
Caucasian
Belgian
Hobbies are Gaming, MMA and bodybuilding
Security agent and wannabe DJ
♫♫I'm a hardbass junkie♫♫

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Azaflaza
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Founded: Jun 13, 2012
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Postby Azaflaza » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:08 pm

I don't really know what to post next, unless I should just wait for konstantinye to post?

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Sheng China
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Postby Sheng China » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:11 pm

Azaflaza wrote:I don't really know what to post next, unless I should just wait for konstantinye to post?

may as well wait to see what he has up his sleeve
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Azaflaza
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Postby Azaflaza » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:15 pm

Sheng China wrote:
Azaflaza wrote:I don't really know what to post next, unless I should just wait for konstantinye to post?

may as well wait to see what he has up his sleeve

Suppose so, I'll wait until then.

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Canuckland
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Postby Canuckland » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:42 pm

Alahana wrote:
Canuckland wrote:That also implies that Countermeasures work 100% of the time.

Yes, you know not everyone wants these orbital strikes, the defences is to protect the ones that don't want them .
becouse think about it, if these orbital weapons would be allowed at any time, the contiennt will be ruined within a day...

Yeah but then everyone will just put up IWINULOSE defences so the cool and awesome shit will be gone and it'll be back to railgun shells being flung from one end to the other.
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Konstantinye
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Postby Konstantinye » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:01 pm

Canuckland wrote:
Alahana wrote:Yes, you know not everyone wants these orbital strikes, the defences is to protect the ones that don't want them .
becouse think about it, if these orbital weapons would be allowed at any time, the contiennt will be ruined within a day...

Yeah but then everyone will just put up IWINULOSE defences so the cool and awesome shit will be gone and it'll be back to railgun shells being flung from one end to the other.


What Alahana's saying is that it's really up to the people to choose whether they want to use orbital weapons and face bombardment from them as well. If everybody says no orbital weapons, so be it.

Oh, and by the way, Benus Prime (55 on the map) gave confirmation for me to annex his lands soooo...
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Canuckland
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Postby Canuckland » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:51 pm

Konstantinye wrote:
Canuckland wrote:Yeah but then everyone will just put up IWINULOSE defences so the cool and awesome shit will be gone and it'll be back to railgun shells being flung from one end to the other.


What Alahana's saying is that it's really up to the people to choose whether they want to use orbital weapons and face bombardment from them as well. If everybody says no orbital weapons, so be it.

Oh, and by the way, Benus Prime (55 on the map) gave confirmation for me to annex his lands soooo...

Again. Since everyone thinks these projectiles would blow up the earth (Over reaction) that they set up 100% defences, which shouldn't even be happening 20 or so years from now, whenever this takes place.
Please call me 'Canuck.'
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Factbook update incoming any day now...

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Alahana
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Postby Alahana » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:59 pm

Konstantinye wrote:
Canuckland wrote:Yeah but then everyone will just put up IWINULOSE defences so the cool and awesome shit will be gone and it'll be back to railgun shells being flung from one end to the other.


What Alahana's saying is that it's really up to the people to choose whether they want to use orbital weapons and face bombardment from them as well. If everybody says no orbital weapons, so be it.

Oh, and by the way, Benus Prime (55 on the map) gave confirmation for me to annex his lands soooo...


Exactly, and i'll edit the map

Canuckland wrote:
Konstantinye wrote:
What Alahana's saying is that it's really up to the people to choose whether they want to use orbital weapons and face bombardment from them as well. If everybody says no orbital weapons, so be it.

Oh, and by the way, Benus Prime (55 on the map) gave confirmation for me to annex his lands soooo...

Again. Since everyone thinks these projectiles would blow up the earth (Over reaction) that they set up 100% defences, which shouldn't even be happening 20 or so years from now, whenever this takes place.


Okay what exactly can you do with orbital weapons that is in your own benefit? I mean if you have orbital weaponery you lose every single unit in your army, without those defences.
Those defences are meant for people who don't want to play with orbital weaponery so they can basicly ignore all orbital thing so they can keep playing like they want.

And its not an IWINULOSE situation at all with those defences, it is to prevent such an situation, when you have orbital weaponery you get such an situuation, becouse imagine this:
You invade me, i do not have any orbital defences, so wich means i also have orbital weapons, you invade and my capital ca be destroyed without i am able to do anything about it, and while you invade i do the very same to your fleet and your fleet is destroyed. With those orbital weapons it will be just destroying everything there is....
"Even When broken a sword may still cut."
Crowned Republic
Monarch is Phoenix King Gerrit II
Population of 104 million


20 yrs old
"Aquarius"
Hetero
Caucasian
Belgian
Hobbies are Gaming, MMA and bodybuilding
Security agent and wannabe DJ
♫♫I'm a hardbass junkie♫♫

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Canuckland
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Postby Canuckland » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:34 am

Alahana wrote:
Konstantinye wrote:
What Alahana's saying is that it's really up to the people to choose whether they want to use orbital weapons and face bombardment from them as well. If everybody says no orbital weapons, so be it.

Oh, and by the way, Benus Prime (55 on the map) gave confirmation for me to annex his lands soooo...


Exactly, and i'll edit the map

Canuckland wrote:Again. Since everyone thinks these projectiles would blow up the earth (Over reaction) that they set up 100% defences, which shouldn't even be happening 20 or so years from now, whenever this takes place.


Okay what exactly can you do with orbital weapons that is in your own benefit? I mean if you have orbital weaponery you lose every single unit in your army, without those defences.
Those defences are meant for people who don't want to play with orbital weaponery so they can basicly ignore all orbital thing so they can keep playing like they want.

And its not an IWINULOSE situation at all with those defences, it is to prevent such an situation, when you have orbital weaponery you get such an situuation, becouse imagine this:
You invade me, i do not have any orbital defences, so wich means i also have orbital weapons, you invade and my capital ca be destroyed without i am able to do anything about it, and while you invade i do the very same to your fleet and your fleet is destroyed. With those orbital weapons it will be just destroying everything there is....

That's using it stupidly. Technically, an Orbital Strike would be a WMD, technically. Just using them willy nilly won't benefit you, your enemy, or the continent, let alone the bystanders in the war. You should use it in last stand scenarios, and light bombardments to soften up the enemy defences.
The diameter of the explosion should only be 500m.
Please call me 'Canuck.'
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Factbook update incoming any day now...

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Alahana
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Postby Alahana » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:01 am

Canuckland wrote:
Alahana wrote:
Exactly, and i'll edit the map



Okay what exactly can you do with orbital weapons that is in your own benefit? I mean if you have orbital weaponery you lose every single unit in your army, without those defences.
Those defences are meant for people who don't want to play with orbital weaponery so they can basicly ignore all orbital thing so they can keep playing like they want.

And its not an IWINULOSE situation at all with those defences, it is to prevent such an situation, when you have orbital weaponery you get such an situuation, becouse imagine this:
You invade me, i do not have any orbital defences, so wich means i also have orbital weapons, you invade and my capital ca be destroyed without i am able to do anything about it, and while you invade i do the very same to your fleet and your fleet is destroyed. With those orbital weapons it will be just destroying everything there is....

That's using it stupidly. Technically, an Orbital Strike would be a WMD, technically. Just using them willy nilly won't benefit you, your enemy, or the continent, let alone the bystanders in the war. You should use it in last stand scenarios, and light bombardments to soften up the enemy defences.
The diameter of the explosion should only be 500m.

Well okay use the orbital weapons no problem, but the people with orbital defences are secured against any kind of orbital attacks.
You just have to know that not everyone is fan of the orbital weapon thing.

So to clear things up: Players are allowed to use orbital weaponery. When using orbital weaponery they cannot use defences against orbital weaponery.
all players start with orbital defences, when they decide to use orbital weaponery they will lose their defences and get the orbital weaponery. When you have changed to the orbital weapons you cannot change it back to orbital defences.
"Even When broken a sword may still cut."
Crowned Republic
Monarch is Phoenix King Gerrit II
Population of 104 million


20 yrs old
"Aquarius"
Hetero
Caucasian
Belgian
Hobbies are Gaming, MMA and bodybuilding
Security agent and wannabe DJ
♫♫I'm a hardbass junkie♫♫

Embassy program | Factbook | Wiki page | Deviantart page
Tech: mainly MT/PMT | DEFCON 5: Peacetime | Demonym : Alahanese

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