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Postby Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:41 am

Voldoviana wrote:
Alidina wrote:
a few decades down the road when the Javakin get their wits about them they are going to go all out and the Order and make their very best attempt at slamming intolerance down the Orders throats along with a hefty supply of iron. They will gladly be joining any alliance against the people they will blame for everything that goes wrong for the next century. The Javakin may not know war or genocide but it seams the order is going to give them an up close and personal view of just how viscous a sapient species can be when it sets its mind to it.

And the Coalition will provide you with the means and skills to get back at them.

For a margin fee, of course.

Later on the fact the Javakin have no form of economy or currency as you know it is going to be a problem when the Javakin become a client state and you start taxing them.
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Postby Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:43 am

Alidina wrote:
Voldoviana wrote:And the Coalition will provide you with the means and skills to get back at them.

For a margin fee, of course.

Later on the fact the Javakin have no form of economy or currency as you know it is going to be a problem when the Javakin become a client state and you start taxing them.

Bah, they'll learn our capitalistic ways, or at least give us raw materials worth however much the taxes are worth...

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:44 am

If the war doesn't end well for the Order, though, there will be a bit of a leadership crisis. Letholdus II, who currently is the Grand Master of the Chivalric Order, is an advocate for expanding the Order's influence and borders, not as a mercenary company but as a proper nation. He is opposed by Aelfred Brocas and the Ecclessiarchy, who holds a more traditional view of the Order being subordinate to the Ecclessiarchy and not ruling the land itself. A third challenger, Abelot Declair, believes that the Order's only path forwards is the formation of a proper kingdom, with an aristocracy and a feudal standard.

In effect, you have the feudal stratocracy threatened by theocrats and feudal absolute monarchists.
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Postby Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:46 am

Voldoviana wrote:Bah, they'll learn our capitalistic ways, or at least give us raw materials worth however much the taxes are worth...


Depending on how much of Jenri Surives they will become an Capitalistic Autocracy, Where as Duri tribe will simply pool the resource of their people and give you a portion of that. I plan for the Admirtribes to set up banking system and outsourcing Javakin engineers and Technical workers to get paychecks they can donate home. Then the Admir will give you a proportion from this bank and leave the rest available for social projects that require outside help.

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:46 am

So is the Order similar to the Imperium of Man in this case?
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:47 am

Alidina wrote:a few decades down the road when the Javakin get their wits about them they are going to go all out and the Order and make their very best attempt at slamming intolerance down the Orders throats along with a hefty supply of iron. They will gladly be joining any alliance against the people they will blame for everything that goes wrong for the next century. The Javakin may not know war or genocide but it seams the order is going to give them an up close and personal view of just how viscous a sapient species can be when it sets its mind to it.

The Ecclessiarch would declare a War of Faith upon your entire species at that point, meaning that every citizen of the Order would be obliged to help enslave or put to the sword every living Javakin.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
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Postby Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:48 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Alidina wrote:a few decades down the road when the Javakin get their wits about them they are going to go all out and the Order and make their very best attempt at slamming intolerance down the Orders throats along with a hefty supply of iron. They will gladly be joining any alliance against the people they will blame for everything that goes wrong for the next century. The Javakin may not know war or genocide but it seams the order is going to give them an up close and personal view of just how viscous a sapient species can be when it sets its mind to it.

The Ecclessiarch would declare a War of Faith upon your entire species at that point, meaning that every citizen of the Order would be obliged to help enslave or put to the sword every living Javakin.

and the Javakin will return the favor, megaton for megaton.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:48 am

Ralnis wrote:So is the Order similar to the Imperium of Man in this case?

No. The Order is not xenophobic, it is more than willing to allow local cultures and many races flourish under their protection, so long as they convert to Krissianism and swear their fealty as vassals to the Order itself.

Of course, the Order also attempts to conduct trade with all nations of the cosmos.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:49 am

Alidina wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:The Ecclessiarch would declare a War of Faith upon your entire species at that point, meaning that every citizen of the Order would be obliged to help enslave or put to the sword every living Javakin.

and the Javakin will return the favor, megaton for megaton.

We will have successfully corrupted a race so thoroughly that they culturally do not resemble what they were before contact.

Mission bloody well accomplished.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:49 am

Alidina wrote:
Voldoviana wrote:Bah, they'll learn our capitalistic ways, or at least give us raw materials worth however much the taxes are worth...


Depending on how much of Jenri Surives they will become an Capitalistic Autocracy, Where as Duri tribe will simply pool the resource of their people and give you a portion of that. I plan for the Admirtribes to set up banking system and outsourcing Javakin engineers and Technical workers to get paychecks they can donate home. Then the Admir will give you a proportion from this bank and leave the rest available for social projects that require outside help.

See, it all works out after all!

Alidina wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:The Ecclessiarch would declare a War of Faith upon your entire species at that point, meaning that every citizen of the Order would be obliged to help enslave or put to the sword every living Javakin.

and the Javakin will return the favor, megaton for megaton.

And we'd be selling you guns while fielding our own guys right alongside you.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:50 am

Voldoviana wrote:And we'd be selling you guns while fielding our own guys right alongside you.

Hmm. The Order is going to need some allies, then.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:52 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Voldoviana wrote:And we'd be selling you guns while fielding our own guys right alongside you.

Hmm. The Order is going to need some allies, then.

Don't forget you're also at war with Canuckland, at the moment, who are still going to be pissy when the Jakavin and Coaltion are ready another go...

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Postby Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:54 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Alidina wrote:and the Javakin will return the favor, megaton for megaton.

We will have successfully corrupted a race so thoroughly that they culturally do not resemble what they were before contact.

Mission bloody well accomplished.


That was intend i fully plan to use the line "You been chasing your demons for to long its time for you to face the ones of your own creation"

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:55 am

Voldoviana wrote:Don't forget you're also at war with Canuckland, at the moment, who are still going to be pissy when the Jakavin and Coaltion are ready another go...

I'm not imagining the Javakin will be in too much of a shape to pose a threat, so it's mostly Canuckland and your nation (can you link me to your app? I can't remember what it was called) against the Chivalric Order. Not good prospects, but being a theocratic military order should certainly help them a bit.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:56 am

Alidina wrote:That was intend i fully plan to use the line "You been chasing your demons for to long its time for you to face the ones of your own creation"

Remind me to only leave the Krissian Javakin converts alive should I need to retreat, then. :p
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby Canuckland » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:56 am

Voldoviana wrote:
Alidina wrote:
a few decades down the road when the Javakin get their wits about them they are going to go all out and the Order and make their very best attempt at slamming intolerance down the Orders throats along with a hefty supply of iron. They will gladly be joining any alliance against the people they will blame for everything that goes wrong for the next century. The Javakin may not know war or genocide but it seams the order is going to give them an up close and personal view of just how viscous a sapient species can be when it sets its mind to it.

And the Coalition will provide you with the means and skills to get back at them.

For a margin fee, of course.

I guess the Javakin, Vold and I are the Orders worst enemies right now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

We're so dead!

Anyways, Vold, I wanted to talk to you about my expansion thread. I need help, in the future.

The Nuclear Fist wrote:If the war doesn't end well for the Order, though, there will be a bit of a leadership crisis. Letholdus II, who currently is the Grand Master of the Chivalric Order, is an advocate for expanding the Order's influence and borders, not as a mercenary company but as a proper nation. He is opposed by Aelfred Brocas and the Ecclessiarchy, who holds a more traditional view of the Order being subordinate to the Ecclessiarchy and not ruling the land itself. A third challenger, Abelot Declair, believes that the Order's only path forwards is the formation of a proper kingdom, with an aristocracy and a feudal standard.

In effect, you have the feudal stratocracy threatened by theocrats and feudal absolute monarchists.

I smell a civil war brewing.
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Postby Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:57 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Voldoviana wrote:Don't forget you're also at war with Canuckland, at the moment, who are still going to be pissy when the Jakavin and Coaltion are ready another go...

I'm not imagining the Javakin will be in too much of a shape to pose a threat, so it's mostly Canuckland and your nation (can you link me to your app? I can't remember what it was called) against the Chivalric Order. Not good prospects, but being a theocratic military order should certainly help them a bit.

From the big post, under The Coalition of Allied Planets.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:57 am

Canuckland wrote:I smell a civil war brewing.

Civil war? No. A lot of men being stabbed to death behind closed doors? Yes.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:59 am

Voldoviana wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I'm not imagining the Javakin will be in too much of a shape to pose a threat, so it's mostly Canuckland and your nation (can you link me to your app? I can't remember what it was called) against the Chivalric Order. Not good prospects, but being a theocratic military order should certainly help them a bit.

From the big post, under The Coalition of Allied Planets.

Goddamn humans, they breed like rats!
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:01 am

Canuckland wrote:I guess the Javakin, Vold and I are the Orders worst enemies right now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

We're so dead!

Anyways, Vold, I wanted to talk to you about my expansion thread. I need help, in the future.

But of course. We can finalize the alliance there, along with setting up joint colonial funding, lend-lease programs, technology exchange, trade treaties, and colonists.

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Postby Ralnis » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:06 am

So, can I get some info on this big war that's happening?
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:09 am

Ralnis wrote:So, can I get some info on this big war that's happening?

The Chivalric Order is invading the Javakin, proceeds to obliterate their initial defences and make a dash for their capital. Eventually the Coalition of Allied Planets discovers the Javakin, decides to help them.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:10 am

Ralnis wrote:So, can I get some info on this big war that's happening?

It's still heating up.

Basically the Chivalric Order went into Canuckland and started demanding they convert. Canuck's defense force opened fire, at which point the Order declared war, and that's looking to heat up, with the Coalition starting to supply Canuck with more modern weapons. Meanwhile, the Order declared war on the Jakavin, thinking they'd be easy as hell to convert and conquer. Little do they know that the Coalition is looking for a reason to pick a fight with the Order, and a poor, defenseless race getting attacked is perfect justification...

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:11 am

Voldoviana wrote:
Ralnis wrote:So, can I get some info on this big war that's happening?

It's still heating up.

Basically the Chivalric Order went into Canuckland and started demanding they convert. Canuck's defense force opened fire, at which point the Order declared war, and that's looking to heat up, with the Coalition starting to supply Canuck with more modern weapons. Meanwhile, the Order declared war on the Jakavin, thinking they'd be easy as hell to convert and conquer. Little do they know that the Coalition is looking for a reason to pick a fight with the Order, and a poor, defenseless race getting attacked is perfect justification...

It seems like the Order's primarily rival is going to be the Coalition.
[23:24] <Marquesan> I have the feeling that all the porn videos you watch are like...set to Primus' music, Ulysses.
Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .
THE ABSOLUTTM MADMAN ESCAPES JUSTICE ONCE MORE

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Postby Canuckland » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:12 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Ralnis wrote:So, can I get some info on this big war that's happening?

The Chivalric Order is invading the Javakin, proceeds to obliterate their initial defences and make a dash for their capital. Eventually the Coalition of Allied Planets discovers the Javakin, decides to help them.

And the Canucks will just sit back and wait for the Coalition to be all: "We need help." Then we'll be like "Pew pew pew! Bang Bang! Democracy!"

Voldoviana wrote:
Canuckland wrote:I guess the Javakin, Vold and I are the Orders worst enemies right now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

We're so dead!

Anyways, Vold, I wanted to talk to you about my expansion thread. I need help, in the future.

But of course. We can finalize the alliance there, along with setting up joint colonial funding, lend-lease programs, technology exchange, trade treaties, and colonists.

This is relevant to my interests.
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Factbook update incoming any day now...

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