Alidina wrote:Also TNF I posted tell me what you think of the revised post.
Looks fine, just a quick question. Are all the ships freighters, and are they all firing at the cruiser that nuked the colony? Also, are there survivors in the nuked colony?
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by The Nuclear Fist » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:55 pm
Alidina wrote:Also TNF I posted tell me what you think of the revised post.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Alidina » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:58 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Alidina wrote:You can and would willing eat Alien food used by a species with drastically different genetic structure and chemical needs, not to mention chemical tolerances?
If it couldn't be consumed, it would be seized and placed in stasis. If your area wants food, it can stop rebelling and submit. Though ye be not noble of blood, ye may still be noble of heart, and only then shall thou's belly be full.

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:00 am
Alidina wrote:That would be very easy seeing as most of their food is now grown in large vats in side huge skyscrapper facilities, sieze those and simply shut the doors and you basically shut off the food supply. However they Javakin could still hunt local game and such but the system that supports their population would be out of commission.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:01 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Alidina wrote:That would be very easy seeing as most of their food is now grown in large vats in side huge skyscrapper facilities, sieze those and simply shut the doors and you basically shut off the food supply. However they Javakin could still hunt local game and such but the system that supports their population would be out of commission.
Well of course they could still hunt (though hunting without permission of the Order means an immediate execution), but I doubt it would be enough to feed an entire population on a long term basis.

by Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:02 am

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:04 am
Voldoviana wrote:He also has the aid of a nation with one of its major industries listed as agriculture...
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:05 am
Alidina wrote:you last post assumes you are already in control of Thali, and Vold should be arriving a few days or weeks into the campaign on Thali.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:07 am
Voldoviana wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:Well of course they could still hunt (though hunting without permission of the Order means an immediate execution), but I doubt it would be enough to feed an entire population on a long term basis.
He also has the aid of a nation with one of its major industries listed as agriculture...

by Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:09 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Voldoviana wrote:He also has the aid of a nation with one of its major industries listed as agriculture...
Planets are treated on a case by case basis. Captured planets have their food sources seized and rationed out to the locals based on good behaviour. It's going to be spectacularly difficult to feed the locals without the Order's will on Order-controlled planets, though you could certainly work out a deal to help feed them.

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:09 am
Alidina wrote:The colonies have very small population and are on uninhabitable planets, Thali is the largest concentration of Javakin and is where I assume you'll head once you establish your beach head in the current system.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:11 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Alidina wrote:The colonies have very small population and are on uninhabitable planets, Thali is the largest concentration of Javakin and is where I assume you'll head once you establish your beach head in the current system.
Oh yes, the capital world is exactly where the Order is going to dash for as soon as a beach head is established. Every planet in the way that resists will be pillaged to the fullest extent, but what will be planned for Thali will be particularly grim.

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:13 am
Voldoviana wrote:Huh, well that will be a problem.
Ah well, it'll be figured out when we reinvade. I've been meaning to test out my ground equipment.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:16 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Voldoviana wrote:Huh, well that will be a problem.
Ah well, it'll be figured out when we reinvade. I've been meaning to test out my ground equipment.
The Order will be in a bit of a pickle in that situation. By the law of chivalry, the Order is sworn to protect all Krissians under their dominion, be they noble or peasant. So if the locals have converted, the Order will be obliged to fight to the death in order to ensure the Javakin Krissian's safety. . . which is in turn the goal of the attackers.
Of course, non-converted Javakin will see their food sources preemptively destroyed if a planet is invaded, just for the sake of pettiness.
"Thou wants to be free of God's grace? So be it, thou shalt fall upon thine own sword, swung down by the wrathful Famine."

by Canuckland » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:19 am

by Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:22 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Voldoviana wrote:Huh, well that will be a problem.
Ah well, it'll be figured out when we reinvade. I've been meaning to test out my ground equipment.
The Order will be in a bit of a pickle in that situation. By the law of chivalry, the Order is sworn to protect all Krissians under their dominion, be they noble or peasant. So if the locals have converted, the Order will be obliged to fight to the death in order to ensure the Javakin Krissian's safety. . . which is in turn the goal of the attackers.
Of course, non-converted Javakin will see their food sources preemptively destroyed if a planet is invaded, just for the sake of pettiness.
"Thou wants to be free of God's grace? So be it, thou shalt fall upon thine own sword, swung down by the wrathful Famine."

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:23 am
Voldoviana wrote:Well that's rude as hell.
I'm still deciding though, do I want the opening stages of the ground invasion to be a raid on Order strongpoints ala Starship Troopers, with men dropping from orbit, or should it be regrouping with friendly Jakavin forces and then advancing...
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:27 am
Canuckland wrote:Vold, remember, we're allies too. If you need help, comeby New Canuckland and talk to the Prime Minister.

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:29 am
Voldoviana wrote:However (I say that a lot, don't I?), that gives better reason for the Jakavin to become the Coalition's client state: their homeworld is in ruins, their population is decimated, and their people are starving. And wouldn't you know, the people who just came to save them are offering food, space, and friends...
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Canuckland » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:31 am
Voldoviana wrote:Canuckland wrote:Vold, remember, we're allies too. If you need help, comeby New Canuckland and talk to the Prime Minister.
Well, I'm also planning on supplying you in your war with the Order. The Jakavin are just a reason to jump headfirst into it. You'll be getting railgun tanks soon. Actual Coalition boots on the ground may come later.
Also for TNF, yeah, I'm not going to turn this into Operation Bughouse. However, I think a quick and dirty raid is the way to go. I can only deploy ground troops once the sky is clear, and I need to save as many Jakavin lives as possible. I'm operating on a limited timeframe, so I need boots on the ground assaulting the Order ASAP once this moves groundside.
However (I say that a lot, don't I?), that gives better reason for the Jakavin to become the Coalition's client state: their homeworld is in ruins, their population is decimated, and their people are starving. And wouldn't you know, the people who just came to save them are offering food, space, and friends...

by Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:31 am

by The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:32 am
Canuckland wrote:We need an anti-Order alliance, seeing as they are cleansing more worlds than we can replace this early in the game.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.
by Ralnis » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:33 am

by Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:34 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Voldoviana wrote:However (I say that a lot, don't I?), that gives better reason for the Jakavin to become the Coalition's client state: their homeworld is in ruins, their population is decimated, and their people are starving. And wouldn't you know, the people who just came to save them are offering food, space, and friends...
So you will vassalize the primitives, then?
The Order may very well let you help clean up while it catches it breath. After all, there can always be a Second Javakin Crusade.

by Alidina » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:37 am
Canuckland wrote:We need an anti-Order alliance, seeing as they are cleansing more worlds than we can replace this early in the game.

by Voldoviana » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:40 am
Alidina wrote:Canuckland wrote:We need an anti-Order alliance, seeing as they are cleansing more worlds than we can replace this early in the game.
a few decades down the road when the Javakin get their wits about them they are going to go all out and the Order and make their very best attempt at slamming intolerance down the Orders throats along with a hefty supply of iron. They will gladly be joining any alliance against the people they will blame for everything that goes wrong for the next century. The Javakin may not know war or genocide but it seams the order is going to give them an up close and personal view of just how viscous a sapient species can be when it sets its mind to it.
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