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by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:26 pm

by The Nuclear Fist » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:26 pm
Nore Empire wrote:How is it OP?
Each individual cell of theirs acts as something that pushes out disease, it's hard to explain for me for some weird reason.
There ARE ways they can be affected by it though, they have the capability to breath, and since that/meditation are a large part of their culture they can be affected by toxins and disease IF they decide to breath. If their lungs got punctured/eroded they would suffer and possibly die from it, because despite the need to breath not being necessary they are nearly identical to humans and it can and will affect them the same way it does humans.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:27 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Nore Empire wrote:How is it OP?
You can't see how 'immune to all disease' is OP? Honestly?Each individual cell of theirs acts as something that pushes out disease, it's hard to explain for me for some weird reason.
So they have an immune system, just like everyone else. What exactly makes it so they're immune to disease?There ARE ways they can be affected by it though, they have the capability to breath, and since that/meditation are a large part of their culture they can be affected by toxins and disease IF they decide to breath. If their lungs got punctured/eroded they would suffer and possibly die from it, because despite the need to breath not being necessary they are nearly identical to humans and it can and will affect them the same way it does humans.
So they're immune to disease except when they aren't, and they don't need to breathe but they still somehow evolved lungs?
If they don't need to breathe, how do they take in their respiratory gas? Do they absorb it through their skin?

by The Nuclear Fist » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:28 pm
Nore Empire wrote:I didn't say read the post, I said read what was inside of the link. It would help, then I could explain how they are different/less ridiculous and corny.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:29 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Nore Empire wrote:I didn't say read the post, I said read what was inside of the link. It would help, then I could explain how they are different/less ridiculous and corny.
The link slows down my computer and takes a long time to load. You could just, you know, explain what they do since they're toned down, instead of making the rest of us just sort of fucking guess.

by The Nuclear Fist » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:30 pm
Nore Empire wrote:They don't have a respiratory gas, what part of "don't need to breath" do you fail to understand?
Their cells literally kill and absorb diseases and become immune to them...permanently
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:35 pm
, maybe the queen, not sure
by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:36 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Nore Empire wrote:They don't have a respiratory gas, what part of "don't need to breath" do you fail to understand?
So if they don't need to fucking breathe, why do they have lungs?Their cells literally kill and absorb diseases and become immune to them...permanently
That doesn't really make any sense, though. And seems incredibly overpowered.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:36 pm

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:39 pm
Caecuser wrote:Nore! Stop spamming the thread with your triple-posting, double-posting is bad enough.

by The Nuclear Fist » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:43 pm
Nore Empire wrote:They have lungs because they are descended from Humans! The lungs just didn't evolve out! GAH!
...How does it not make sense, how is it OPed? Elaborate and try to have a reason.
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:46 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Nore Empire wrote:They have lungs because they are descended from Humans! The lungs just didn't evolve out! GAH!
So if they're descendend from humans, why do they not need to breathe? What in fuck's name happened to them that spurred evolution to make it optional? And why are the lungs even there? And on top of that, if they don't have a respiratory gas, how do their bodies work? If they have human-like biology, but don't need fucking oxygen, they're not very human, are they?...How does it not make sense, how is it OPed? Elaborate and try to have a reason.
Because it means they can't be affected by any disease, ever. No matter if they've never come into contact with it. Which is, itself, bollocks. It doesn't make sense how that is possible. All biological lifeforms are capable of being infected by disease, because diseases adapt and no immune system is perfect.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:50 pm
Caecuser wrote:Well, Nore, that last post may have reaffirmed my vote against you. People's attitude and level of maturity mean a lot here - to me at least.

by The Nuclear Fist » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:55 pm
Nore Empire wrote:They didn't descend from humans, they have lungs because it was engineered into them due to their obsession with humanity! They also mass-engineered the whole race to be able to fight off all diseases. They have manipulated themselves to the point that they aren't even the original Nore anymore. Their current capabilities and the fact that there are multiple Nore races and sub-races are a result of this. Does this explain it?!
Nore Empire wrote:They have lungs because they are descended from Humans!
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses. . .Farnhamia wrote:You're getting a little too fond of the jerkoff motions.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:56 pm
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Nore Empire wrote:They didn't descend from humans, they have lungs because it was engineered into them due to their obsession with humanity! They also mass-engineered the whole race to be able to fight off all diseases. They have manipulated themselves to the point that they aren't even the original Nore anymore. Their current capabilities and the fact that there are multiple Nore races and sub-races are a result of this. Does this explain it?!
Oh really?Nore Empire wrote:They have lungs because they are descended from Humans!
And yes, it explains it. It just doesn't make it any less overpowered.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:05 pm
The Rebel Alliances wrote:I wont promise the others will like it but I will work with you. But i am just one council member.
If you really want to keep the 'Force' you should remove the psionics. Like you suggested. But using the force means that all the other players have to accept its existence in some way even if they dont use it. So We need to clarify a few things.
First: What is the source of you particular 'Force'? I would recommend something that is unique to your species rather than the explanation used in Star Wars.
Second: We should clarify exactly what your force abilities can do. Because some force abilities are rather quite OP in any RP other than a Star Wars. And I believe you said it would be a toned down version. So we should clarify what and how it is toned down.
As for you list. Precognition and battle precognition strike me as a no. And some of these such as Force Meld and Psychometry I am unfamilier with.
I am not so big on Dark Side powers. More of a Jedi guy myself. So forgive my ignorance.

by The Rebel Alliances » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:08 pm
Nore Empire wrote:I don't even know why I am doing this. TRA said he was fine with it, so I am just going to work with him on my application and ignore Nuclear Fist's "helping"[it isn't helping, it is doing the opposite of helping!]. He said he was fine with it, Nuclear fist isn't a council member, so it doesn't matter if he cares or not, a Council member is fine with it.The Nuclear Fist wrote:Oh really?
And yes, it explains it. It just doesn't make it any less overpowered.
I have made it evident this is making the situation worse, I have even blatantly said this isn't helping and that I was already getting help from an actual council member. I have no idea why I got angry, so I apologize, but I made it clear that I was getting angry and you continued. Stop, now.
Edit: TRA said I made improvements, I have made further improvements by removing the portion about Psionics.
The Starlight wrote:Rebel Force: Noun - A strange power associated with street-level characters who are the weakest, yet most powerful of all.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:09 pm
Nore Empire wrote:The Rebel Alliances wrote:I wont promise the others will like it but I will work with you. But i am just one council member.
If you really want to keep the 'Force' you should remove the psionics. Like you suggested. But using the force means that all the other players have to accept its existence in some way even if they dont use it. So We need to clarify a few things.
First: What is the source of you particular 'Force'? I would recommend something that is unique to your species rather than the explanation used in Star Wars.
Second: We should clarify exactly what your force abilities can do. Because some force abilities are rather quite OP in any RP other than a Star Wars. And I believe you said it would be a toned down version. So we should clarify what and how it is toned down.
As for you list. Precognition and battle precognition strike me as a no. And some of these such as Force Meld and Psychometry I am unfamilier with.
I am not so big on Dark Side powers. More of a Jedi guy myself. So forgive my ignorance.
I apologize for bursting, but please take into account the fact that I asked Nuclear Fist to stop "helping" and said that it wasn't progressive and that I was getting angry.
To the first part: Not sure, maybe it is a part of their genetic modifications! They can utilize their brain waves OR maybe their modifications allow them to manifest energy to use The Force, I am still confused about how that would work...is there a physicist, engineer, or some other kind of genius with a degree with an imagination here?
To the second part: The "absolutely" OPed ones are being removed by myself and after debating with you, and only you, about the others we will either accept, extensively modify, or totally scrap some.
We have already been over the other parts and I put them in the nation app!
Edit: Okay, NOW they're in the app. Again, I apologize for the way I acted and I have taken my medication >.>'

by The Rebel Alliances » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:13 pm
The Starlight wrote:Rebel Force: Noun - A strange power associated with street-level characters who are the weakest, yet most powerful of all.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:15 pm
The Rebel Alliances wrote:The only thing I can think of is something like Biotics from Mass Effect. Exposure to a certain element native to your space and could have potentially deadly side effects. I think that is an even trade off for the enhanced benefits.
Would you trade the Force for the Biotics like abilities of Mass Effect? That may be much more acceptable.

by Nore Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:15 pm
Nore Empire wrote:The Rebel Alliances wrote:The only thing I can think of is something like Biotics from Mass Effect. Exposure to a certain element native to your space and could have potentially deadly side effects. I think that is an even trade off for the enhanced benefits.
Would you trade the Force for the Biotics like abilities of Mass Effect? That may be much more acceptable.
*Now has a Prototype-like race idea O.O' IDK why.*
I don't know what that is, link please?

by G-Tech Corporation » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:17 pm
The Rebel Alliances wrote:The only thing I can think of is something like Biotics from Mass Effect. Exposure to a certain element native to your space and could have potentially deadly side effects. I think that is an even trade off for the enhanced benefits.
Would you trade the Force for the Biotics like abilities of Mass Effect? That may be much more acceptable.
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