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Postby Caecuser » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:38 am

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Caecuser wrote:You know - we don't have to necessarily have all humans come from Earth. We could say that these humanoid species all evolved in convergent pattern across multiple star systems and that's that.

I don't really like this idea.


Well, human empire fracturing centuries ago could work as well.

And something occurred to me as an interesting twist; the Republic was the one which caused the original human empire to explode and has since then made reparations to surviving human colonies and has allowed them to join the Republic?

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Postby Escalan Corps-Star Island » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:07 am

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Toishima wrote:That's a rather strange idea. Won't they all evolve differently in terms of internal biology thanks to the different conditions on their home planets?

Anyway, that was just a development of Trans' idea, I could go back to my original Diqiu concept.


I'm hoping that everybody who does a human nation will not go for standard human - that there will in fact be differences between each sub-species in a sense.


This is a good point. I would definitely prefer that to having tens of identical human nations. Different anatomical construction would fundamentally change language and architecture and art of the culture as well, allowing for more interesting cultural discussion during/after a first-contact.

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:25 am

Caecuser wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:I don't really like this idea.


Well, human empire fracturing centuries ago could work as well.

And something occurred to me as an interesting twist; the Republic was the one which caused the original human empire to explode and has since then made reparations to surviving human colonies and has allowed them to join the Republic?

I do like this idea; sort of a vassal-master relations which would give Human nations an incentive to revolt.
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Postby Toishima » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:33 am

If I wanted to play an alien nation, I would play an alien nation. There's no sense to create a new species that is 99% Homo Sapien. True, the differences in anatomy could lead to differences in culture, but I believe that defeats the purpose of playing as a human nation, that is, as the familiar concept of regular people in the future (Thus 'future tech').

I like the idea of the Republic playing a hand in destroying the Humans. However, I do not wish for it to be recent enough for people to still remember it. The Human Empire should be a distant memory, more like an explanation of how there are people everywhere than an actual in-game event.
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Postby Oogium » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:29 am

Caecuser wrote:You know - we don't have to necessarily have all humans come from Earth. We could say that these humanoid species all evolved in convergent pattern across multiple star systems and that's that.

If someone wants a sub-species type thing, it should be because of the environment of their new homeworld, not because they...... had not-quite-parallel evolution.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:37 am

Basically those two points. I support the possibility of all Humans having a common ancestry, but, instead of having parallel developments, how about the humans all adapted to their slightly different environments? That gives the applicant the right to chose if they are Homo Sapiens or something slightly different.
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In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
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"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
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Postby Yortini Systems » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:25 am

We don't have to be human right? I don't really like being a human nation in FT rps.
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Postby Toishima » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:30 am

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Postby Caecuser » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:43 am

Yortini Systems wrote:We don't have to be human right? I don't really like being a human nation in FT rps.


Honestly the fewer humans the better but people can make their own human nations if they want.

For a name perhaps; Atlas Of Stars in reference to a large chamber in the Capital of the Republic displaying a 3D/4D map of the Cluster with highlighted stars to all the members different territories.

I also propose that the Republic was initially founded ten thousand years ago as a martial effort to stamp out swarms of Von Neumann Probes which were aggressively converting several systems (some of which populated) into themselves forcing a joint effort to remove them. After the end of the Nano-Crusades the Republic became a more peaceful, fully democratic and multicultural super-society as it incorporated more civilizations and stood ready to remove other large-scale threats.
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Postby Oogium » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:10 pm

Caecuser wrote:
Yortini Systems wrote:We don't have to be human right? I don't really like being a human nation in FT rps.


Honestly the fewer humans the better but people can make their own human nations if they want.

For a name perhaps; Atlas Of Stars in reference to a large chamber in the Capital of the Republic displaying a 3D/4D map of the Cluster with highlighted stars to all the members different territories.

I also propose that the Republic was initially founded ten thousand years ago as a martial effort to stamp out swarms of Von Neumann Probes which were aggressively converting several systems (some of which populated) into themselves forcing a joint effort to remove them. After the end of the Nano-Crusades the Republic became a more peaceful, fully democratic and multicultural super-society as it incorporated more civilizations and stood ready to remove other large-scale threats.


I think perhaps it could also have been founded because of a devastating series of wars between several galactic powers, which then allowed the Von Neumann probe swarms to grow out of control, because it doesn't make sense to unify the galaxy over just the probe swarms, which'd be pretty easy to mop up. A couple of EMP bombs, and all the enemies are dead, unless they formed a centralized intelligence and started specializing and building ships and stuff, which'd be really, really weird.
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Oogium wrote:I don't know who I should send as a diplomat. The Oog are better at fighting than diplomacy, and they're not very good at fighting, either.

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Postby Caecuser » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:13 pm

I'm assuming that in order to be a credible threat that they would be immune to EMP, think of like the machine version of the Tyrannids.

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:25 pm

Caecuser wrote:I'm assuming that in order to be a credible threat that they would be immune to EMP, think of like the machine version of the Tyrannids.

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Yeah, but I feel like even that wouldn't really be a good catalyst for unification. Maybe temporary cooperation, but permanent, large-scale, galactic unification? I think not. Perhaps that and something else, like a war or some economy issues.
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Postby Caecuser » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:30 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Caecuser wrote:I'm assuming that in order to be a credible threat that they would be immune to EMP, think of like the machine version of the Tyrannids.

This is Oog's puppet. I may be using this account more, so don't be confused! :)


Yeah, but I feel like even that wouldn't really be a good catalyst for unification. Maybe temporary cooperation, but permanent, large-scale, galactic unification? I think not. Perhaps that and something else, like a war or some economy issues.


This is a war I'm talking about. And the full unification came afterward.

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:49 pm

I've just found one of the better Space Tactics out there.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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Postby Caecuser » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:52 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:I've just found one of the better Space Tactics out there.


Which one, May I ask?

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Postby Yortini Systems » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:40 pm

I once had a nation similar to von neumann probes, only it was organic. I tried to apply to FAR, but it really isn't a good RP nation. It was called the Omniphage, essentially a giant sentient slime mold. Maybe we could use something like for the war, since EMPs wouldn't affect them. Like a giant killer space amoeba that was just spread from world to world enveloping each planet as it went. It's a pretty simple organism, but could be extremely devastating.
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Postby Caecuser » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:42 pm

Yortini Systems wrote:I once had a nation similar to von neumann probes, only it was organic. I tried to apply to FAR, but it really isn't a good RP nation. It was called the Omniphage, essentially a giant sentient slime mold. Maybe we could use something like for the war, since EMPs wouldn't affect them. Like a giant killer space amoeba that was just spread from world to world enveloping each planet as it went. It's a pretty simple organism, but could be extremely devastating.


I'm thinking something mechanical might be better though it's all moot.

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Postby Yortini Systems » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:45 pm

Caecuser wrote:
I'm thinking something mechanical might be better though it's all moot.

Von Neumann devices do have the edge of being man made, something we caused. However made the robots is guilty of causing the conflict, their own consequence.
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Postby Premislyd » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:34 pm

if you guys are redoing this, I'd be happy to lend a hand
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:57 pm

Premislyd wrote:if you guys are redoing this, I'd be happy to lend a hand

That'd be nice.
Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search for our better selves?
In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:—
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Transoxthraxia confirmed for shit taste

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Postby Toishima » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:05 pm

This should not be too planned out to the point of restricting origin stories, but rather, just mentioned in passing as a backstory. I am in favour of the Probe idea. However, if the Republic was created 10,000 years ago, then would the Human Empire have been formed before or after the Republic was formed?
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Postby Premislyd » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:07 pm

Transoxthraxia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:if you guys are redoing this, I'd be happy to lend a hand

That'd be nice.


alrighty then, consider me aboard.
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Postby Caecuser » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:06 am

Toishima wrote:This should not be too planned out to the point of restricting origin stories, but rather, just mentioned in passing as a backstory. I am in favour of the Probe idea. However, if the Republic was created 10,000 years ago, then would the Human Empire have been formed before or after the Republic was formed?


Indeed - the Von Neumann Probes would be from an unexplained or vague source. They're not too important right now in terms of story just something to be referenced and as a reason why the Republic exists instead of not existing.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:00 am

Caecuser wrote:
Toishima wrote:This should not be too planned out to the point of restricting origin stories, but rather, just mentioned in passing as a backstory. I am in favour of the Probe idea. However, if the Republic was created 10,000 years ago, then would the Human Empire have been formed before or after the Republic was formed?


Indeed - the Von Neumann Probes would be from an unexplained or vague source. They're not too important right now in terms of story just something to be referenced and as a reason why the Republic exists instead of not existing.

Ok.

So, the Republic formed 10,000 years ago? Wouldn't that essentially mean that the major empires had already formed, and there wouldn't be much room for younger ones?
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Postby Caecuser » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:03 am

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Caecuser wrote:
Indeed - the Von Neumann Probes would be from an unexplained or vague source. They're not too important right now in terms of story just something to be referenced and as a reason why the Republic exists instead of not existing.

Ok.

So, the Republic formed 10,000 years ago? Wouldn't that essentially mean that the major empires had already formed, and there wouldn't be much room for younger ones?


Not necessarily - we anticipate having both old and young nations taking part in the RP. Essentially the Founders of the Republic and the Joiners who came later. Any and all human nations for example will have joined no more than a couple thousand years ago.

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