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Smoya
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Postby Smoya » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:24 pm

Solmakia wrote:
Smoya wrote:No, we are a democratic country, unlike Solmakia during WWI. We give them more freedom then the oppressive government that claims they are a democracy.

OOC: On the peace talks I'm waiting for your reply...

We learned of our past mistakes.
We made mistakes, several, and we curse ourslves for it.
We WILL NOT stand idly by while a nation gets conquered.
We will not allow Urran to be conquered

Urran is ours, and has been for years. We have not conquered them, they are ours. No one is peace talks has told us to give it up, so internationally law says we may keep it, while some nations violate law.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:25 pm

Estoica wrote:
Solmakia wrote:You stillhave to supply them....
I supposemilitia may work...
But.no.real soldiers


No shit. These guys are conscripts or ex-rebels from the war of independence who have returned to their ordinary lives (which means they have military experience but are not military soldiers).
Also, building AK-47s are quite easy and cheap, and my economy is doing well so, we're good.

Thats fine. I once rped with a guywho conscriped 10% of his , people and they were all super soldiers

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:25 pm

Pantorran troops move into hostile territory. They prepare an invasion of New Zealand. There fleets blockade all ports and major cities. A landing force of almost 200,000 marines will be airlifted from the conquered city of Palikir. New Zealand is expected to fall within a month.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:31 pm

Smoya wrote:
Solmakia wrote:We learned of our past mistakes.
We made mistakes, several, and we curse ourslves for it.
We WILL NOT stand idly by while a nation gets conquered.
We will not allow Urran to be conquered

Urran is ours, and has been for years. We have not conquered them, they are ours. No one is peace talks has told us to give it up, so internationally law says we may keep it, while some nations violate law.

They want to be free of your rule. They dont want yoir leadership.
They wany.independence, and they are a nation oftheir own. If they want independence, should you not gice it to them?
You, who denounce imperialism, refuse to.allow people self rule. There is.no.word but hypocrote

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Osterr
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Postby Osterr » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:33 pm

We will protect Urran from any attempts to conquer them as well.

Osterr urges Smoya to give up their territory in Japan.
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Smoya
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Postby Smoya » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:35 pm

Solmakia wrote:
Smoya wrote:Urran is ours, and has been for years. We have not conquered them, they are ours. No one is peace talks has told us to give it up, so internationally law says we may keep it, while some nations violate law.

They want to be free of your rule. They dont want yoir leadership.
They wany.independence, and they are a nation oftheir own. If they want independence, should you not gice it to them?
You, who denounce imperialism, refuse to.allow people self rule. There is.no.word but hypocrote

We are saving them from the Solmakian government, with large influence, it almost seems Urran has fallen under the trance of Solmakian leadership.

We will let them be, however a trade embargo is placed against Urran, and naval presence will increase in our Pacific Territories.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:13 pm

Smoya wrote:
Solmakia wrote:They want to be free of your rule. They dont want yoir leadership.
They wany.independence, and they are a nation oftheir own. If they want independence, should you not gice it to them?
You, who denounce imperialism, refuse to.allow people self rule. There is.no.word but hypocrote

We are saving them from the Solmakian government, with large influence, it almost seems Urran has fallen under the trance of Solmakian leadership.

We will let them be, however a trade embargo is placed against Urran, and naval presence will increase in our Pacific Territories.

They do not need to be saved from us.
We are not the dictatorship of a year ago that spread war to the world.
We are a republic that will maintain democracy in Asia.
And if you want to take over Urran, you will find us amongst their troops, ready to kill.
Our friends in Russia have also pledged their support, with a Parliament vote of 62-35. Russia's army is quite...formidable.

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:18 pm

Pantorran troops in North Korea are preparing an unscheduled surprise invasion of the lands belonging to Solmakia. We will conquer Japan and give it to Smoya.
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Smoya
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Postby Smoya » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:20 pm

Solmakia wrote:
Smoya wrote:We are saving them from the Solmakian government, with large influence, it almost seems Urran has fallen under the trance of Solmakian leadership.

We will let them be, however a trade embargo is placed against Urran, and naval presence will increase in our Pacific Territories.

They do not need to be saved from us.
We are not the dictatorship of a year ago that spread war to the world.
We are a republic that will maintain democracy in Asia.
And if you want to take over Urran, you will find us amongst their troops, ready to kill.
Our friends in Russia have also pledged their support, with a Parliament vote of 62-35. Russia's army is quite...formidable.

We are not scared of the Russians. We withdrew forces from Urran, but Solmakians can't understand anything that the Smoyan government does. However, we will not leave our mainland just because Solmakia considers everything Smoya does as "imperialism".
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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:22 pm

Also, with our new nations in Oceania, we will invade from both the West and the South. Japan will fall soon. Our newly tested Nitro-hydrogenic missile, which emits no radiation yet destroys all that is within a 2 mile diameter. Major cities like Hiroshima will reach another surprise awakening within the next few days.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:32 pm

Pantorrum wrote:Also, with our new nations in Oceania, we will invade from both the West and the South. Japan will fall soon. Our newly tested Nitro-hydrogenic missile, which emits no radiation yet destroys all that is within a 2 mile diameter. Major cities like Hiroshima will reach another surprise awakening within the next few days.

OOC: A bit of a godmod, no?
Ic:

Solmakia condemsn Smoya, stating that they have offered no REASONABLE explanation as to why Japan should remain under their control, instread bandying insults around.
Reminds us of a certain Empire that once rose on the Korea penninsula. We ourselves were just as paranoid and vicious, beliving that what we did was not imperialism, but freedom fighting.
So are no better than the fallen empire.

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:34 pm

OOC: No, the missile was mentioned in a test pages ago. It is not my nations flw that it went unnoticed by you.
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Urran
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Postby Urran » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:40 pm

OOC: I warn you, third largest navy and we control the Philippines, Singapore, and the Senkaku and Bonin Islands. and I am trying to buy the Kuril Islands from Russia. this is not imperialism. land buying is different and we are not oppressing the people. we are one of, if not the freest country in this RP
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Postby Smoya » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:52 pm

Urran wrote:OOC: I warn you, third largest navy and we control the Philippines, Singapore, and the Senkaku and Bonin Islands. and I am trying to buy the Kuril Islands from Russia. this is not imperialism. land buying is different and we are not oppressing the people. we are one of, if not the freest country in this RP

OOC: Where have you been, my friend. Size matters this much:

And, my troops have more experience, so your boasting is going to get you in a heap of trouble. Btw, I have more civil rights and political freedoms then you.
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Urran
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Postby Urran » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:44 pm

Smoya wrote:
Urran wrote:OOC: I warn you, third largest navy and we control the Philippines, Singapore, and the Senkaku and Bonin Islands. and I am trying to buy the Kuril Islands from Russia. this is not imperialism. land buying is different and we are not oppressing the people. we are one of, if not the freest country in this RP

OOC: Where have you been, my friend. Size matters this much:

And, my troops have more experience, so your boasting is going to get you in a heap of trouble. Btw, I have more civil rights and political freedoms then you.



prove it. my stats in the rp are different than my nations stats
A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it's accepted by a majority.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:02 pm

Smoya wrote:
Urran wrote:OOC: I warn you, third largest navy and we control the Philippines, Singapore, and the Senkaku and Bonin Islands. and I am trying to buy the Kuril Islands from Russia. this is not imperialism. land buying is different and we are not oppressing the people. we are one of, if not the freest country in this RP


OOC: Where have you been, my friend. Size matters this much:

And, my troops have more experience, so your boasting is going to get you in a heap of trouble. Btw, I have more civil rights and political freedoms then you.


Using NS nation stats is the best way to kill an RP.

They are not realistic at all. They don’t take dozens of important factors into account.

Also, experience will only get you so far in Naval warfare. A trained Infantry man is superior to a green soldier on land, but a sea to air missile is still as sea to air missile, and a battleship gun crew can only fire and load a gun as quickly as any other.
Furthermore, It is possible for a nation to have HIGH political freedoms AND civil rights, and still be blatantly imperialist. Take Britain for example, their citizens were amongst the freest in the world, but their “little brothers”, their colonies, had absolutely no representative voice, and colonial subjects were treated the worst of Earth, rivaled only by the Ruthlessness of Belgium that killed off nearly 10% of the Congo’s population.

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:47 pm

Our militaristic nation has a great economy trend that far out weighs Urran and equals that of Solmakia. My superior missile technology is capable of destroying cities the size of Hiroshima without emitting vast amounts of radiation. Our fleets are dominant of the Oceania region and our armies numerous in North Korea and the Caribbean. we will out last the island of Japan in a standoff. We simply have more resources. My nation may be little, but we mustn't forget the impact of small nations.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:07 pm

Pantorrum wrote:Our militaristic nation has a great economy trend that far out weighs Urran and equals that of Solmakia. My superior missile technology is capable of destroying cities the size of Hiroshima without emitting vast amounts of radiation. Our fleets are dominant of the Oceania region and our armies numerous in North Korea and the Caribbean. we will out last the island of Japan in a standoff. We simply have more resources. My nation may be little, but we mustn't forget the impact of small nations.

Which nation are you again?
I'm sorry, but your fleet can't suddenly become the strongest in the world, especially not for a militarist nation.
Where are your resources? Because resources alone won't win a war.
Your WMD is banned from the RP, because it's simply too OP. It's not a nuclear weapon? It's still treated like one. Ban.

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:14 pm

And who gives you the authority to ban my weapons testing. We are an independent nation. This isn't a WMD. It is simply a tool of victory, nothing more nothing less. We are not compelled to comply with your orders. until you display to me that you suffice as a regulator for my nation, you will not be one. we intend to continue our use of this weapon on our conquest throughout the south pacific and the Caribbean. My resources are in the mighty ocean that is the pacific and her islands. The mineral and forest rich islands. If you infringe on my nations capabilities then you yourself should be infringed upon. Who gave you the ability to dictate the distribution of nuclear weapons.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:21 pm

Pantorrum wrote:And who gives you the authority to ban my weapons testing. We are an independent nation. This isn't a WMD. It is simply a tool of victory, nothing more nothing less. We are not compelled to comply with your orders. until you display to me that you suffice as a regulator for my nation, you will not be one. we intend to continue our use of this weapon on our conquest throughout the south pacific and the Caribbean. My resources are in the mighty ocean that is the pacific and her islands. The mineral and forest rich islands. If you infringe on my nations capabilities then you yourself should be infringed upon. Who gave you the ability to dictate the distribution of nuclear weapons.

Oh my god... :palm:

Well...Here goes nothing.
If you insist on using this weapon, I will have to BAN you from this RP.
How about that?

The rules state, "No Nukes". Now, this weapon may not be a nuke, but it has greater capabilities.
BANNED!
I'm not banning it in terms of the international scene; it's banned from the RP.
How about, no WMDs? That's a better rule.

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:24 pm

The rules state that nukes can be used for testing in captured areas. Therefore, this weapon which is not a nuke, but if you insist it to be a WMD, can be used for testing in captured areas. Therefore, when Japan is captured, we have the right to Test is on Hiroshima.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:25 pm

Pantorrum wrote:Our militaristic nation has a great economy trend that far out weighs Urran and equals that of Solmakia. My superior missile technology is capable of destroying cities the size of Hiroshima without emitting vast amounts of radiation. Our fleets are dominant of the Oceania region and our armies numerous in North Korea and the Caribbean. we will out last the island of Japan in a standoff. We simply have more resources. My nation may be little, but we mustn't forget the impact of small nations.

Also, you realize, your north korean holdings are TINY, like, really squiabbly small.
For example, the city of Wonsan would be your total land, and I would have it cut off and guarded.

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:26 pm

Actually i hold the northern islands and the northern Mt. region.
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Solmakia
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Postby Solmakia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:29 pm

Pantorrum wrote:The rules state that nukes can be used for testing in captured areas. Therefore, this weapon which is not a nuke, but if you insist it to be a WMD, can be used for testing in captured areas. Therefore, when Japan is captured, we have the right to Test is on Hiroshima.

You have to actually capture Hiroshima first. That's my biggest peeve.
Your real offense is stating how your missiles can easily wipe out entire cities.
that's pretty blatant godmod. Then, you go as far as to state Japan's military capabilities. this too is a godmod. You cannot dictate another nation's resources, and neither can you make yours stronger than they actually are, just in case you decide that you will simply buff your army up because of this rule

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Postby Pantorrum » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:32 pm

It is know that japan is not rich in resources, like it once was.it may have some, but not a massive amount.
My weapon was tested and the world was notified. It is not Godmoding because it is simpy a more developed missile. This isnt something that was simply created out of thin air.
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