Earth II [Main Thread | OOC | Open RP]

[Layarteb]

Okay so:

Yes - 4 (Byzantium Imperium + Itailian Maifias + Marimaia + Terra Reborn)
No - 7 (Amigard + Cotland + Hi No Moto + Khorsun + Pontificus + Ursh + Yanitza)
Abstain - 1 (Brydog)

There are 16 total players and I'll remove myself from voting to give us the odd number. So either side would need 8 to declare victory or whomever has the most at the end of July.

This is the current limitation on land claims. As you can see there is a maximum ceiling and it is a hard limit that you reach with 8 billion people. Now NS populations notwithstanding what is the interest level to increasing the overall limit. Show of hands (I'll leave voting open through the end of July unless we get everyone's vote) in a simple majority. Who wants to see the ceiling increased (see bottom of post for what new levels would be)?

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Decree 5, Provision 2: The maximum ceiling for claims is 6,500,000 mi² (16,834,922 km²). If Give/Take Allowed is "Yes" then this indicates that there is an overrun buffer of 50,000 mi² (129,499 km²).

8 billion people = 6,500,000 mi² (16,834,922 km²) WITH buffer
10 billion people = 6,750,000 mi² (17,482,419 km²) WITH buffer
20 billion people = 7,000,000 mi² (18,129,916 km²) WITHOUT buffer (new hard ceiling)

Full disclosure - part of this is to get myself out of doing a lot of map work

Just a reminder to everyone who hasn't voted, there is still another week or so left.

[Ursh]

Okay so:

Yes - 3 (Byzantium Imperium + Marimaia + Terra Reborn)
No - 3 (Amigard + Cotland + Khorsun)

There are 16 total players and I'll remove myself from voting to give us the odd number. So either side would need 8 to declare victory or whomever has the most at the end of July.

Just a reminder to everyone who hasn't voted, there is still another week or so left.

I vote no.

I think having a hard limit set at around the size of Russia (which I know from experience) will always ensure that we have ample land available to new players.

Also I'm going to edit my claims to be:

Rio Grande do Sul 281,748
Santa Catarina 95,346.181
Parana 199,314.9
São Paulo 248,222.8
Rio de Janeiro 43,696.1
Espírito Santo 46,077.5
Minas Gerais 586,528.29
Istria county 2,813
Coastal–Karst Statistical Region 1,044
Goriška Statistical Region 2,325

This reduces my claims in Brazil and establishes me in Europe (in Slovenia and Croatia). Also if y'all look at my thread there is an obvious crisis building, it's probably common knowledge now in the world so reactions etc. are welcome. I'm writing a post detailing the standoff now and it'll be up soonish. Y'all can wait or post now, whatever is easier.

[Layarteb]

Also I'm going to edit my claims to be:

Rio Grande do Sul 281,748
Santa Catarina 95,346.181
Parana 199,314.9
São Paulo 248,222.8
Rio de Janeiro 43,696.1
Espírito Santo 46,077.5
Minas Gerais 586,528.29
Istria county 2,813
Coastal–Karst Statistical Region 1,044
Goriška Statistical Region 2,325

This reduces my claims in Brazil and establishes me in Europe (in Slovenia and Croatia). Also if y'all look at my thread there is an obvious crisis building, it's probably common knowledge now in the world so reactions etc. are welcome. I'm writing a post detailing the standoff now and it'll be up soonish. Y'all can wait or post now, whatever is easier.

One glaring issue to posting replies in your thread is that you don't have dates. Locations can be surmised from the posts but date - no clue.

[Hi No Moto]

This is the current limitation on land claims. As you can see there is a maximum ceiling and it is a hard limit that you reach with 8 billion people. Now NS populations notwithstanding what is the interest level to increasing the overall limit. Show of hands (I'll leave voting open through the end of July unless we get everyone's vote) in a simple majority. Who wants to see the ceiling increased (see bottom of post for what new levels would be)?

(Image)

Decree 5, Provision 2: The maximum ceiling for claims is 6,500,000 mi² (16,834,922 km²). If Give/Take Allowed is "Yes" then this indicates that there is an overrun buffer of 50,000 mi² (129,499 km²).

8 billion people = 6,500,000 mi² (16,834,922 km²) WITH buffer
10 billion people = 6,750,000 mi² (17,482,419 km²) WITH buffer
20 billion people = 7,000,000 mi² (18,129,916 km²) WITHOUT buffer (new hard ceiling)

Full disclosure - part of this is to get myself out of doing a lot of map work

Nobody likes change.

It's a nein from me.

[Itailian Maifias]

I guess I'm the only person who likes change, but an Aye from me

[Brydog]

abstain, because I like being neutral.

[Yanitza]

eh, I'll vote no just cuz I agree on leaving space open for new players

[Layarteb]

Good thanks all - we've got either til the end of the month or until Pontificus and Puerto Saulo and Austronia (27D dunno if that's going to happen) vote.

[Layarteb]

Earth II History Change Form

Mark with an X on the applicable fields:
[ ] Addition
[x] Change (original goes in deletion; change goes in addition)
[ ] Deletion

[ ] New Member
[x] Established Member

Reason for Change/Deletion (if applicable & be thorough): Fixing up something on Lemnos/Agios Efstratios

Additions (use as many of these as necessary, use US date system (month day, year), do not use st, nd, rd, or th)

• August 16, 1958 - October 1, 1958: [Hirgizstan, Layarteb, North Germania, Ottoman Khaif, Urbov(Ru)] MF-MA forces conduct Phase III of Operation MIDNIGHT CYCLONE. During Phase III, a battalion of Layartebian paratroopers lands on Agios Efstratios where Lemnosian rebels and their Soviet advisors have been cut off from supplies and reinforcements since the campaign began. Over nine days, paratroopers and rebels fight fierce battles on the island's rugged terrain, culminating in the complete rout of the Lemnosian rebels, thus ending combat operations. During Operation MIDNIGHT CYCLONE, MF-MA forces suffer approximately 200 casualties of all types overall. Of the 120 Soviet Spetsnaz troops deployed to the conflict, 40 are killed, 56 escape during the last days of Phase III, and 24 are captured, and eventually repatriated to the Union of Sovereign Slavic Republics. Pro-Soviet rebels suffer approximately 3,500 killed and 2,500 wounded or captured. Fewer than 100 rebels escape with the Soviet Spetsnaz troops. There are approximately 2,000 civilian casualties. The population of the country is reduced by nearly half. From August 25 to October 1, MF-MA personnel sweep through both islands looking for rebel holdouts and sympathizers who are killed in confrontations or arrested.
• October 1 - December 31, 1958: [Hirgizstan, Layarteb, North Germania, Ottoman Khaif] MF-MA forces transition into Phase IV, which is a short-term peacekeeping mission aimed at providing humanitarian assistance to civilians in the wake of the conflict. During Phase IV, MF-MA forces help clear Agios Efstratios of landmines, booby-traps, and unexploded ordinance. They assist Lemnos in rebuilding following the violence of Phase I.
• January 1, 1959 - February 16, 1963: [Hirgizstan, Layarteb, North Germania, Ottoman Khaif, Urbov(Ru)] MF-MA forces transition into Phase V, the final phase of Operation MIDNIGHT CYCLONE, a long-term humanitarian and peacekeeping mission. During this phase, MF-MA troops are reduced to 50% of what they were at Phase I. The main goal is to prevent flare ups of rebellion and to deal with pro-Soviet sentiment in a less dramatic way. During Phase V, MF-MA forces establish four land and one air base on Agios Efstratios as well as two new airstrips on Lemnos.

Deletions

• August 16, 1958 - October 1, 1958: [Hirgizstan, Layarteb, North Germania, Ottoman Khaif, Urbov(Ru)] MF-MA forces conduct Phase III of Operation MIDNIGHT CYCLONE. Phase III is very aggressive and it sees concentrated attacks on pro-Soviet rebel strongholds on Agios Efstratios and those remaining on Lemnos. Virtually cut off from supplies, pro-Soviet rebels crumble over the 1.5-month long push. Despite frantic attempts by the Soviet government to supply its Spetsnaz troops and pro-Soviet rebels, the blockade is too effective. No supplies reach the beleaguered rebel and Spetsnaz troops during Phase III and the last rebel stronghold falls on October 1. During Operation MIDNIGHT CYCLONE, MF-MA forces suffer approximately 200 casualties of all types overall. Of the 120 Soviet Spetsnaz troops deployed to the conflict, 40 are killed, 56 escape during the last days of Phase III, and 24 are captured, and eventually repatriated to the Union of Sovereign Slavic Republics. Pro-Soviet rebels suffer approximately 3,500 killed and 2,500 wounded or captured. Fewer than 100 rebels escape with the Soviet Spetsnaz troops. There are approximately 2,000 civilian casualties. The population of the country is reduced by nearly half.
• October 1 - December 31, 1958: [Hirgizstan, Layarteb, North Germania, Ottoman Khaif] MF-MA forces transition into Phase IV, which is a short-term peacekeeping mission aimed at providing humanitarian assistance to civilians in the wake of the conflict.
• January 1, 1959 - February 16, 1963: [Hirgizstan, Layarteb, North Germania, Ottoman Khaif, Urbov(Ru)] MF-MA forces transition into Phase V, the final phase of Operation MIDNIGHT CYCLONE, a long-term humanitarian and peacekeeping mission. During this phase, MF-MA troops are reduced to 50% of what they were at Phase I. The main goal is to prevent flare ups of rebellion and to deal with pro-Soviet sentiment in a less dramatic way.

[The Martian Hegemony]

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[Layarteb]

Just posting this in case I get accepted.

• A Corruption of the Soul
  
  • Thread Owner: Austronia
  • Location: Mexico, Central America
  • Classification: Conflict, Story, War
  • Synopsis: The Mexican War on Drugs, launched by General Jenaro Velásquez González has entered its second year and, to the sorrow of all, does not look like it will end any time soon.
  • Miscellaneous Notes: Open to all.

Well unfortunately, Austronia has been deleted by NationStates due to inactivity. I'm not going to put Mexico back as a premade state since we had to remove it for other ones and I had been hopeful that Austronia would have completed his RP and become a member. Mexico will exist as it has, with the history it's had until now. We'll just hope someone comes in and claims it and stays.

[Pontificius]

I say Nay as well to increasing the ceiling.

[Greater Tezdrian]

Posting on my old account so that I don't look like a newb:

I'm really interested in joining this, but before putting in the considerable time investment which reading what looks like hundreds of pages of history and lore...

You all are still, theoretically speaking, open?

[Estainia]

Posting on my old account so that I don't look like a newb:

I'm really interested in joining this, but before putting in the considerable time investment which reading what looks like hundreds of pages of history and lore...

You all are still, theoretically speaking, open?

We're always open.

[Greater Tezdrian]

Posting on my old account so that I don't look like a newb:

I'm really interested in joining this, but before putting in the considerable time investment which reading what looks like hundreds of pages of history and lore...

You all are still, theoretically speaking, open?

We're always open.

Oh hai Est, good to see you.

And noted, expect my app within a few days.

[Cotland]

Like the Catholics say, there's always room for one more...

[Layarteb]

I say Nay as well to increasing the ceiling.

With this vote a total of 12 people have voted. There are fifteen active members now (Austronia dropped) and I had recused myself so that leaves fourteen potential votes. The standings are 4 yes, 7 no, and 1 abstain. Even if both individuals remaining vote "yes" then the answer remains "no" and thus voting for the below is closed and no change is to be made.

This is the current limitation on land claims. As you can see there is a maximum ceiling and it is a hard limit that you reach with 8 billion people. Now NS populations notwithstanding what is the interest level to increasing the overall limit. Show of hands (I'll leave voting open through the end of July unless we get everyone's vote) in a simple majority. Who wants to see the ceiling increased (see bottom of post for what new levels would be)?

(Image)

Decree 5, Provision 2: The maximum ceiling for claims is 6,500,000 mi² (16,834,922 km²). If Give/Take Allowed is "Yes" then this indicates that there is an overrun buffer of 50,000 mi² (129,499 km²).

8 billion people = 6,500,000 mi² (16,834,922 km²) WITH buffer
10 billion people = 6,750,000 mi² (17,482,419 km²) WITH buffer
20 billion people = 7,000,000 mi² (18,129,916 km²) WITHOUT buffer (new hard ceiling)

Full disclosure - part of this is to get myself out of doing a lot of map work

Thanks for voting all.

[Cotland]

And that, boys and girls, is benevolent democracy in action!

[Amigard]

Ran short on time while writing my latest post, but I went ahead and posted it with the intent of continuing. It had been a while since I posted anything so I wanted to get something out there

[Austronia]

Sincere apologies for my deletion by NS. I had a person matter that needed attending to and required a lot of travel ... apologies for failing to inform anyone.

I'll leave the decision with you whether or not I can continue with my claim for Mexico in my current role play, I'm aware my lack of posting and subsequent deletion might make you all worried about letting me return.

[Layarteb]

Sincere apologies for my deletion by NS. I had a person matter that needed attending to and required a lot of travel ... apologies for failing to inform anyone.

I'll leave the decision with you whether or not I can continue with my claim for Mexico in my current role play, I'm aware my lack of posting and subsequent deletion might make you all worried about letting me return.

You can resume just resubmit the app for a formality please.

[Pontificius]

I've been thinking about this story for several months now, but haven't gotten around to actually writing it until now. Here it goes...

• Mercy Not Sacrifice
  
  • Thread Owner: Pontificius
  • Location: Western Europe
  • Classification: Story
  • Synopsis: A discharged soldier has a gripe with the Sotanabeltzan government and compromises the identity of three active-duty soldiers, thereby endangering their lives. A team is assembled to extract these men and two agents begin the task of tracking down the discharged soldier and bring him to justice for his crime. When is it necessary to make sacrifices and when is it necessary to show mercy?
  • Miscellaneous Notes: None

[Layarteb]

This isn't Earth II related but here's a story I'm working on with my puppet. You might like it. Ghosts in the Fog

[Puerto Saulo]

HAH! After going a bit dark lately, I got something up. The writing bug is back!

[Layarteb]

HAH! After going a bit dark lately, I got something up. The writing bug is back!

Most excellent bug to have!