Earth II [Main Thread | OOC | Open RP]

[Layarteb]

Walter and John Winstone.

Yes, Stone, not Ston.

Happy Birthday to Me on a sidenote.

Happy Birfday to you indeed.

[Austronia]

I'm looking to claim the territories of Mexico that are unclaimed. Would I be able to use this as my application as I would like to RP this nation as it is in the pre-made state;

• Nation Name: Federation of Mexico
• Demonym: Mexican
• Capital: Mexico City
• Independence or Founding Date: October 14, 2011
• Population: 92,346,679
• Official Language(s): Spanish
• Government Type: Military Junta
• Head of State: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Head of Government: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Official Religion: None
• Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism
• Constitution: No
• Economy Type: Free market
• Currency: peso ($)
• Summer Time: No
• Calling Code: +52
• Internet TLD: .mex
• Maritime Boundary (nm): 12
• Military Size: 969,640
• Special Weapons
  
  • Chemical: No
  • Biological: No
  • Radiological: No
  • Nuclear: No
• Territories
  
  • Mexico (part)
• Economic Rating: Depressed
• Military Rating: Balanced
• Political Rating: Weak
• Summary: The Federation of Mexico is a corrupt, weak state dominated by drug cartels, which wage ongoing warfare against one another and against the Mexican government. In February 2013, the assassination of the Mexican President ushered in a military coup and a junta government under the leadership of General Jenaro Velásquez González. Since February 2013, a war has been raging between the Mexican government and the cartel groups. This has led to an utterly weak and corrupt political system and a depressed economy. Mexico City, the country's capital, is the epicenter in this drug war, which hails back to the days of the Empire of Neuvo Rica. The military itself is not particularly strong and it is engaged with drug cartels in daily fighting; however, it is not immune to corruption and the allegiances of certain units remains in question.
• History
  
  • See Consolidated History

[Austronia]

Also just so I know, as this will be a big part of my RP if I am accepted, are the drugs that come into Mexico coming from Colombia? Or has that place been wiped clean of drug cartels?

[Marimaia]

Also just so I know, as this will be a big part of my RP if I am accepted, are the drugs that come into Mexico coming from Colombia? Or has that place been wiped clean of drug cartels?

Colombia's been wiped clean, as have Peru and Venezuela. If you go further down the map, you'll find a state that'll never wipe clean

Actually I've had occasional talk with Layarteb on this very matter; he'd be your *only* neighbour and is very anti-narcotics, while I'm down in South America and my nation is owned by a single drug cartel which is led by a guy who was once described as "Pablo Escobar but with more ego". Anyway, it's entirely possible that the Mexican cartels are growing their own, as coca plantations were recently found in real life Mexico, albeit in areas that Layarteb owns in Earth II. Marijuana would probably be easily grown, and opium poppies wouldn't be that difficult. There is also the possibility that the drugs are coming from my cartel, but not in vast quantities due to Layarteb's significant naval presence...among other things.

So really it could be some mix of the two options. My involvement in Mexico has been limited to a vague statement that my cartel has both friends and enemies among the Mexican cartels, but there's never been any proper attempt to describe the cartels in Mexico. Layarteb did introduce a Mexican cartel leader in an ongoing thread, the post is here:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=328169&p=23662414#p23662414 (scroll down a bit, it's the second half of the post)

As far as I know, that's all that's ever officially been done with Mexico since the cartels took over.

[Layarteb]

Also just so I know, as this will be a big part of my RP if I am accepted, are the drugs that come into Mexico coming from Colombia? Or has that place been wiped clean of drug cartels?

Colombia's been wiped clean, as have Peru and Venezuela. If you go further down the map, you'll find a state that'll never wipe clean

Actually I've had occasional talk with Layarteb on this very matter; he'd be your *only* neighbour and is very anti-narcotics, while I'm down in South America and my nation is owned by a single drug cartel which is led by a guy who was once described as "Pablo Escobar but with more ego". Anyway, it's entirely possible that the Mexican cartels are growing their own, as coca plantations were recently found in real life Mexico, albeit in areas that Layarteb owns in Earth II. Marijuana would probably be easily grown, and opium poppies wouldn't be that difficult. There is also the possibility that the drugs are coming from my cartel, but not in vast quantities due to Layarteb's significant naval presence...among other things.

So really it could be some mix of the two options. My involvement in Mexico has been limited to a vague statement that my cartel has both friends and enemies among the Mexican cartels, but there's never been any proper attempt to describe the cartels in Mexico. Layarteb did introduce a Mexican cartel leader in an ongoing thread, the post is here:

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p23662414 (scroll down a bit, it's the second half of the post)

As far as I know, that's all that's ever officially been done with Mexico since the cartels took over.

We're using Mato Grosso as a go-between for his guy and Mexico at the moment.

I'm looking to claim the territories of Mexico that are unclaimed. Would I be able to use this as my application as I would like to RP this nation as it is in the pre-made state;

• Nation Name: Federation of Mexico
• Demonym: Mexican
• Capital: Mexico City
• Independence or Founding Date: October 14, 2011
• Population: 92,346,679
• Official Language(s): Spanish
• Government Type: Military Junta
• Head of State: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Head of Government: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Official Religion: None
• Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism
• Constitution: No
• Economy Type: Free market
• Currency: peso ($)
• Summer Time: No
• Calling Code: +52
• Internet TLD: .mex
• Maritime Boundary (nm): 12
• Military Size: 969,640
• Special Weapons
  
  • Chemical: No
  • Biological: No
  • Radiological: No
  • Nuclear: No
• Territories
  
  • Mexico (part)
• Economic Rating: Depressed
• Military Rating: Balanced
• Political Rating: Weak
• Summary: The Federation of Mexico is a corrupt, weak state dominated by drug cartels, which wage ongoing warfare against one another and against the Mexican government. In February 2013, the assassination of the Mexican President ushered in a military coup and a junta government under the leadership of General Jenaro Velásquez González. Since February 2013, a war has been raging between the Mexican government and the cartel groups. This has led to an utterly weak and corrupt political system and a depressed economy. Mexico City, the country's capital, is the epicenter in this drug war, which hails back to the days of the Empire of Neuvo Rica. The military itself is not particularly strong and it is engaged with drug cartels in daily fighting; however, it is not immune to corruption and the allegiances of certain units remains in question.
• History
  
  • See Consolidated History

No you would use the main app and just input the necessary information.

[Terra Reborn]

I'm not sure on the bounds of that pre-made state, but you would also have a significant land border with myself to the North.

[Marimaia]

I'm not sure on the bounds of that pre-made state, but you would also have a significant land border with myself to the North.

Indeed this is true. Forgetting things like that is what results from focusing on one nation in particular; I think I need relations with other people

Hey, Virtue! *hug*

[Layarteb]

I'm not sure on the bounds of that pre-made state, but you would also have a significant land border with myself to the North.

Indeed this is true. Forgetting things like that is what results from focusing on one nation in particular; I think I need relations with other people

Hey, Virtue! *hug*

All your need is your friendly neighborhood Empire to the north brah.

[Austronia]

Okay, I think Matto Grosso could work. I'm not sure cartels would be as powerful as they are if the drugs aren't coming in from nearer to home i.e; Colombia but I'm game for it.

Seems a bit redundant, given I just copy and pasted, but here is my application form:

Application for Full Membership

• Nation Name: Federation of Mexico
• Demonym: Mexican
• Capital: Mexico City
• Independence or Founding Date: October 14, 2011
• Population: 92,346,679
• Official Language(s): Spanish
• Government Type: Military Junta
• Head of State: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Head of Government: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Official Religion: None
• Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism
• Constitution: No
• Economy Type: Free Market
• Currency: Peso ($)
• Summer Time: No
• Calling Code: +52
• Internet TLD: .mex
• Maritime Boundary (nm): 12
• Aircraft Registration Code: XA
• Military Size: 969,640
• Special Weapons
  
  • Chemical: No
  • Biological: No
  • Radiological: No
  • Nuclear: No
• Examples of Previous RPs
  
  • viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37424
• Reason why you want to join Earth II?: I used to me a member for a short period before leaving for career reasons. Really enjoyed my brief time here and happy to see it is still going and I’m eager to join.
• Real-Life Age: 23
• Fluency in English: Native
• Land(s) Claiming:
  
  • Mexico [Part]
• History Use US date system (month day, year); do not use st, nd, rd, or th.
  
  • February 13, 2013: [Austronia] Mexican President Benito Juarez, is assassinated on the streets of Mexico City by an unknown gunman throwing the country into confusion and turmoil. It is later revealed that the gunman was contracted by the Sinaloa Cartel to kill the President after he refused to cooperate with the Cartel.
  • February 15, 2013: [Austronia] General Jenaro Velásquez González, Chief of Staff of the Mexican Army, declares martial law following the assassination of President Benito Juarez and begins an immediate crackdown on dissidents and opponents of the regime.
  • May 12, 2013: [Austronia] The gunman who assassinated the President is captured by security forces but he commits suicide whilst being interrogated. General González orders a mock execution to take place to placate the people and give a boost to his popularity.
  • October 9, 2013: [Austronia] General González officially declares a War on Drugs in Mexico, outlining his plans to crackdown hard on the Cartels and remove them from the country. This War of Drugs is launched without the necessary resources and experts conclude it will continue well into the future. Casualties amongst the Cartels, Military, Police and civilian population are high with 8,000 people estimated to have been killed within the first year.

[Puerto Saulo]

Expect a volley of posts from me in the next couple of days, I finally have days off with time to spare.

[Austronia]

Just posting this in case I get accepted.

• A Corruption of the Soul
  
  • Thread Owner: Austronia
  • Location: Mexico, Central America
  • Classification: Conflict, Story, War
  • Synopsis: The Mexican War on Drugs, launched by General Jenaro Velásquez González has entered its second year and, to the sorrow of all, does not look like it will end any time soon.
  • Miscellaneous Notes: Open to all.

[Layarteb]

Okay, I think Matto Grosso could work. I'm not sure cartels would be as powerful as they are if the drugs aren't coming in from nearer to home i.e; Colombia but I'm game for it.

Seems a bit redundant, given I just copy and pasted, but here is my application form:

Application for Full Membership

• Nation Name: Federation of Mexico
• Demonym: Mexican
• Capital: Mexico City
• Independence or Founding Date: October 14, 2011
• Population: 92,346,679
• Official Language(s): Spanish
• Government Type: Military Junta
• Head of State: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Head of Government: General Jenaro Velásquez González
• Official Religion: None
• Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism
• Constitution: No
• Economy Type: Free Market
• Currency: Peso ($)
• Summer Time: No
• Calling Code: +52
• Internet TLD: .mex
• Maritime Boundary (nm): 12
• Aircraft Registration Code: 969,640
• Military Size:
• Special Weapons
  
  • Chemical: No
  • Biological: No
  • Radiological: No
  • Nuclear: No
• Examples of Previous RPs
  
  • viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37424
• Reason why you want to join Earth II?: I used to me a member for a short period before leaving for career reasons. Really enjoyed my brief time here and happy to see it is still going and I’m eager to join.
• Real-Life Age: 23
• Fluency in English: Native
• Land(s) Claiming:
  
  • Mexico [Part]
• History Use US date system (month day, year); do not use st, nd, rd, or th.
  
  • February 13, 2011: [Austronia] Mexican President Benito Juarez, is assassinated on the streets of Mexico City by an unknown gunman throwing the country into confusion and turmoil. It is later revealed that the gunman was contracted by the Sinaloa Cartel to kill the President after he refused to cooperate with the Cartel.
  • February 15, 2011: [Austronia] General Jenaro Velásquez González, Chief of Staff of the Mexican Army, declares martial law following the assassination of President Benito Juarez and begins an immediate crackdown on dissidents and opponents of the regime.
  • May 12, 2011: [Austronia] The gunman who assassinated the President is captured by security forces but he commits suicide whilst being interrogated. General González orders a mock execution to take place to placate the people and give a boost to his popularity.
  • October 9, 2011: [Austronia] General González officially declares a War on Drugs in Mexico, outlining his plans to crackdown hard on the Cartels and remove them from the country. This War of Drugs is launched without the necessary resources and continues for the next three years with many believing it will continue even further into the future. Casualties amongst the Cartels, Military, Police and civilian population are high with 40,000 people estimated to have been killed over three years.

• History dates are off, we have established history through 2014 for Mexico
• Aircraft registration code (you put military size, you should fix that)
• Military size (see above)

All else looks okay but please correct.

[Austronia]

Ah my bad, I did not see those mistakes ... all corrected now.

I've changed the history dates to 2013 now, the last mention of Mexico being late 2011 in the Consolidated History.

[Layarteb]

Ah my bad, I did not see those mistakes ... all corrected now.

I've changed the history dates to 2013 now, the last mention of Mexico being late 2011 in the Consolidated History.

Yes 2013, there was just this for 2014 which I imagine we can amend with your RP now:

April 2013 - June 2014: [Mexico] Intense fighting between drug cartels and the government rages throughout Mexico, turning Mexico City into a war zone. It bests Porto Velho in terms of people killed and property destroyed.

[Austronia]

Ah my bad, I did not see those mistakes ... all corrected now.

I've changed the history dates to 2013 now, the last mention of Mexico being late 2011 in the Consolidated History.

Yes 2013, there was just this for 2014 which I imagine we can amend with your RP now:

April 2013 - June 2014: [Mexico] Intense fighting between drug cartels and the government rages throughout Mexico, turning Mexico City into a war zone. It bests Porto Velho in terms of people killed and property destroyed.

Awesome. I might change Mexico City to being a bit more controlled by the General and his regime though still with the obvious rough neighbourhood that the different Cartels control. I'll update my OP in my claim thread to include a map of Mexico with all the different controllers on them for reference.

[Layarteb]

Cool - yeah for reference we meant Mexico City to mirror the real-life Juarez since the Earth II Juarez would not be the catastrophic cesspool that it is in real-life.

[Austronia]

Cool - yeah for reference we meant Mexico City to mirror the real-life Juarez since the Earth II Juarez would not be the catastrophic cesspool that it is in real-life.

Haha no problem. What are the borders like between Layartebian Mexico & Mexican-Mexico [lol] ... are they super super strict or would the passage of drugs be a little easier? Just want to gauge how and where the drugs will be coming and going from Mexico?

[Layarteb]

Cool - yeah for reference we meant Mexico City to mirror the real-life Juarez since the Earth II Juarez would not be the catastrophic cesspool that it is in real-life.

Haha no problem. What are the borders like between Layartebian Mexico & Mexican-Mexico [lol] ... are they super super strict or would the passage of drugs be a little easier? Just want to gauge how and where the drugs will be coming and going from Mexico?

Ah yes this inevitability. So the borders between Layartebian Mexico and Mexican-Mexico (like the way you put that) are a sort of a mix of things. So for starters, the overwhelming majority of my anti-drug forces/programs/efforts focus on Mexico. The border is manned, tended to, and watched constantly (though we can't watch every square foot at all times). We have fences and walls and we're active in stopping people illegally crossing the border. We do find and destroy tunnels on occasion but the terrain isn't always the most favorable to us.

Now on roads that pass through, there are border checkpoints with plenty of personnel and strict requirements. Any vehicle / person that tries to enter the Empire with drugs are treated depending on what we find. So if we find something for personal use the person is turned around and sent back across the border. This person is photographed, fingerprinted, and the vehicle is logged so when they try to cross again, we make a diligent search. If we find something above personal use it is confiscated and the person is imprisoned for narco-trafficking. Depending on the severity of the case we might deport the person or imprison them in jail. We use a variety of search methods that include dogs, trained officers, et cetera (nothing out of what is used nowadays).

We have tried and executed high level drug dealers and cartel bosses. While narcotics trafficking is not a capital-level offense, we have tried these people based upon the deaths their actions have caused. We take the whole ordeal of drugs very seriously.

[Austronia]

Armed Forces of the Mexican Federation

As you can no doubt see, my Armed Forces are in piss poor shape and will need some refurbishment in the future.

[Khorsun]

Finals week, etc

[Estainia]

Finals week, etc

I feel your pain, carry on.

[Terra Reborn]

Armed Forces of the Mexican Federation

As you can no doubt see, my Armed Forces are in piss poor shape and will need some refurbishment in the future.

Your northern neighbour will be happy to oblige when the time comes.

[Austronia]

Armed Forces of the Mexican Federation

As you can no doubt see, my Armed Forces are in piss poor shape and will need some refurbishment in the future.

Your northern neighbour will be happy to oblige when the time comes.

First off I need to work out whether my Northern Neighbours are the right friends to have

[Austronia]

Hmmm my brigades are looking a little on the small size ... Should I just rename them as Regiments??

[Layarteb]

They are regimental sized but it's really your call.

This is mostly what I go by:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_o ... ion#Armies