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Postby Klievan » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:10 pm

Lay I talked to RomeW about claims and we came to an agreement, waiting for a response from Itailian Maifias (via telegram) before I make an official claim. As for this whole history revision though, I have some questions if I'm getting back in.

When I was in Earth II before, my initial claim was Austria, Switzerland, and Slovenia, and I RP'd it as originating in Austria in the fall of North Germania, at roughly the same time the German Region gained independence in Germany. In the previous history, this was throughout the spring and fall of 2009. In the newer history, I can see it has been moved to be around the spring of 2004, which would make more sense. My questions start to arise with France though, because my next important event was taking over south eastern France when Corbournne collapsed, as well as moving overseas to take control of Libya. I originally intended to take all 8 southern states of France, but due to the arrival of Frani and his claims, followed by intense negotiations, we ended up taking only Rhône-Alpes, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, and Aquitaine, as well as most of Libya. Neither Corbournne nor Frani are in the revised history, but it includes that
August 8, 2001: [North Germania] After 3 months of civil war, the Fourth Reich of North Germania officially disbands. The various states become independent but the violence does not stop. Germany and France become independent. Poland becomes the Democratic Republic of Poland and the Low Countries become the Dutch Unitary Republic.

Are we in a sense merging Corbournne and Frani to be that independent French nation? Because the War of Klievanian Succession was my third and most significant major event, and it wouldn't really make sense without a French nation.



Assuming that works though, more questions with the War of Klievanian Succession. It took place shortly after the fall of Third Spanish States, which in the revised history has been set to have taken place in 2010. However, it also has The German Region annexing my lands on March 24, 2006. I think it might be better if the War of Klievanian succession had happened in the '08 or '09, because 2 years after all three of the main combatants were founded just seems too soon to make a lot of sense, but it would make sense for the aquisition of new lands and people by Germany to have contributed to the unrest and eventual collapse of the nation in 2011 (revised timeline).

I think the war was significant enough to justify its existance in the timeline, since it almost turned into a World War spanning Europe, Africa, and the Pacific, but I'm not quite sure how much we'd have to modify it since a lot of the involved members are no longer present. The main combatants were myself, The German Region, and Frani (or a replacement generic French state as mentioned above), but there was also involvement by Cotland (performed a major landing in France), Hi No Moto (directed towards Khorsun), Khorsun (sent expeditionary forces, but is retconning that section of his history), Gliskor (as the Principality of Smolensk sending expeditionary forces), URBOV (sent a small fighter escort to aid Gliskor, one plane being shot down), Leavatia (gave Klievan the island of Malta, sent an expeditionary force), Drvarska (Pledged forces to assist The German Region), and Mount Kip (sent a fleet to fight in the Mediterranean, conquered Frani after he CTE'd at the end of the war). Obviously some will have to be modified, but it can still be made to work.



The last thing I noticed is that the only one who took my African lands while I was gone was Helissa, who is absent not only from the revised timeline, but from the Consolidated History thread itself. By that standing, if I claim my old lands in Africa, would it be ok if I wrote for the revised history a background in which Helissa is retconned and Klievanian government continued to exist in Africa as an exiled state, which had to spend the years recovering and living in shame until the present, looking to take back its Vaterland now that Olmeria has collapsed?
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Postby Layarteb » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:50 am

1) Courbournne, Frani, Mount Kip, Leavatia, Drvarska, your wars of succession, et cetera were all removed from the history entirely.
2) North Germania's "return" so to speak didn't make much sense so that was tossed as well.
3) The German Region and post-North Germania history has been put more in line (there were too many conflicts prior so now they're all resolved).
4) The fall of TSS hasn't changed date-wise - it's still the same time. Hawdawg has been removed though.
5) Gliskor's previous incarnations (there were several) were all removed just for Persia.

The gist of this is that insignificant stuff and the multiple join/leave/join/leave/join/leave histories of various players, yourself included, were all removed.
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Postby RomeW » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:30 am

About the histories: as we're restarting things, I think it would be prudent if everyone (that's an established nation) had an independence at least prior to 1973 (unless being a new, developing nation is part of that nation's story, which it would need to take into account). The way it is right now, we've got quite a few regions where multiple countries have risen up in a short matter of years (due to implementing them in RL timeline), and that's got to wreck havoc on regional stability. Not to mention the fact that "newer" countries tend to be unstable and lack the required infrastructure (unless they're propped up by someone else). So I think that if most countries had their beginnings earlier (I think 40 years is a good benchmark), it would solve a lot of internal inconsistencies.

Not just that but our 20th century is disproportionately bare compared to our 21st...a lot more should have happened then.
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Postby Layarteb » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:51 am

RomeW wrote:About the histories: as we're restarting things, I think it would be prudent if everyone (that's an established nation) had an independence at least prior to 1973 (unless being a new, developing nation is part of that nation's story, which it would need to take into account). The way it is right now, we've got quite a few regions where multiple countries have risen up in a short matter of years (due to implementing them in RL timeline), and that's got to wreck havoc on regional stability. Not to mention the fact that "newer" countries tend to be unstable and lack the required infrastructure (unless they're propped up by someone else). So I think that if most countries had their beginnings earlier (I think 40 years is a good benchmark), it would solve a lot of internal inconsistencies.

Not just that but our 20th century is disproportionately bare compared to our 21st...a lot more should have happened then.


Not something we're going to mandate that would be too restrictive.

Also let's keep history discussion in history thread please.
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Postby Klievan » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:16 pm

Application for Full Membership

  • Nation Name: The Vaterland of Klievan
  • Demonym: Klievanian
  • Capital: Vienna
  • Independence or Founding Date: July 26, 2002
  • Population: 67,000,000
  • Official Language(s): German
  • Government Type: Federal Republic
  • Head of State: Chancellor Hans Dresdner
  • Head of Government: Chancellor Hans Dresdner
  • Official Religion: None
  • Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, Islam (each about 30% of population)
  • Constitution: Yes
  • Economy Type: Mixed
  • Currency: Iofa (I$)
  • Summer Time: Yes
  • Time Zone(s): UTC +1, UTC +2
  • Calling Code: +1 780
  • Internet TLD: .kli
  • Maritime Boundary (nm): 15 nm
  • Aircraft Registration Code: VK
  • Military Size: 1,000,000 personnel (about 1.5% of population)
  • Special Weapons
    • Chemical: Yes
    • Biological: Yes
    • Radiological: No
    • Nuclear: Yes
  • Examples of Previous RPs
  • Reason why you want to join Earth II?: I was previously a member of Earth II, but because I was too busy between school, sports, and other committments, I couldn't stay active and my account ceased to exist. Now that I've graduated and am no longer in sports, I'll have the time to commit to RPing that I didn't have before, and I'd like to give Earth II another chance if it'll let me.
  • Real-Life Age: 18
  • Fluency in English: Native Language
  • Land(s) Claiming:
    • Libya (1,759,541 km2 / 679,359 sq mi)
    • Tunisia (163,610 km2 / 63,170 sq mi)
    • Austria (83,855 km2 / 32,377 sq mi)
    • Hungary (93,030 km2 / 35,919 sq mi)
    • Romania (238,391 km2 / 92,043 sq mi)
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Postby Miracum-Izmir » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:39 am

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  • Nation Name: Sultanate of Al-Mirik:
  • Demonym: Al-Mirkan:
  • Capital:Cairo:
  • Independence or Founding Date 10th of octobur,1515:
  • Population:10,000,000:
  • Official Language(s): Arabic,English,Persian,Turkish.:
  • Government Type: Absolute Sultanate:
  • Head of State: Sultan Saladin II:
  • Head of Government:Sultan Saladin II:
  • Official Religion:Sunni Islam,Shia Islam.:
  • Largest Religion: Sunni Islam,however,Shia Islam is also catching up as people from Iran are coming for work.:
  • Constitution: Yes,all civilized nations have one.:
  • Economy Type: Free Market:
  • Currency: Al Mirkian Pound (£):
  • Summer Time: Yes:
  • Time Zone:+2 to +3(s):
  • Calling Code:+ 713:
  • Internet TLD:.am:
  • Maritime Boundary15 NM (nm):
  • Aircraft Registration Code:72:
  • Military Size 0.70%,70,000:
  • Special Weapons
    • Chemical yes:
    • Biological No:
    • RadiologicalYes:
    • Nuclear Yes :
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  • Reason why you want to join Earth II?: Because so far i have never joined a RP as big as this. It really means to me that i can have fun while losing my nation. As they say, It's not about winning, it's the taking part that counts! :) :
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  • Land(s) Claiming: Egypt,Isreal,Jordan,Syria,Lebanon,Iraq,North part of saudi arabia and Kuwait!:
[*]History: After the Mamluk sultanate fell,A new state rose up. In the ashes of one empire,another begun. This nation's name was Al-Mirik. It was based in Cairo, It was formed because different people all had a sense. They was NOT Turkish! Nor was they arab! They was egyptian! Then it's small army,of 10,000 men attack Alexandria, Using Cannons to break the walls and 10 ships to bombard on the city, the force breached the city,killed the King, and declared it to be part of Al Mirik. Al Mirk then slowly but surely began to take cites around Egypt. Once the conquest of all of egypt had succeeded, Al-Mirik prepared for the war that will change everything. The war with the Ottomans.
The war of the Sultanates!
In the early 15th century the territories of Syria and Hejaz was occupied by the Ottoman Empire which capital was Istanbul. The rise of Al-Mirik had disturbed the Ottomans so greatly that they prepared to fight there new rival. A grand army of 40,000 men,5,000 cannons and 6000 calvary,totalling about 51,000 men crossed the Border on the Suez. Al-Mirik prepared for the war that will determine the nation's future
At port Said,the first battle began. 51,000 men fought 49,000 men. The battle was hard,which 29,000 died altogether,It was also bloody, So bloody that Ahmed,the Sultan said. Each brick of the walls on Port Said was covered with red blood.But alas, Al-Mirik won and began the next assault. 3000 cannons was pushed into Palestine accompanied by 20,000 men. Victories at Amman,Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and even Beirut frustrated the Ottomans. They asked for a white peace,Al-Mirik declined and continued it's drive. Damascus,Aleppo and Latakia,all falling to Al Mirik, destroyed the Ottoman hold of these areas. As more peace treaties was asked for and all of them declined. Iraq was captured,soon after Kuwait. Then Hejaz fell, the Ottomans mighty empire now on the hold of Al Mirik. The ottomans surrendered. All lands taken by Al Mirik was absorbed.Time Skip to the Start of WWI

In 1914,the Serb nationlist killed the Austiran prince! Austira delcares war on serbia! Russia delcares war to Austira. Germany delcares war to Russia! France delcares war on Germany and Austira! Germany invades belgium! Britan delcares war on the CPS! the ottomans delcare war on allies! Al Mirik delcares war on CPS! Time line of world war 2
1914.
Ottomans attack Cyprus! Failure!
Britan attacks the south coast of TUkrey! Success!
Russia attacks german east prussia! failure!
Al mirik attacks Kurdistan! Success!
Germany attacks Verdun! Sucess!
Britan attacks Hamburg! Success!
Austiran-German forces attack Belgarde! Serbia colllpases.
Russia attacks Istanbul! Failure!
1915
Italy joins the war on allied
Bulgaria joins on Cps side
Italy attacks Dalmatia! Success!
Russia attacks Galicia! Success!
Russia attacks German Poland! Success!
Ottomans attack Aleppo! Failure!
Al Mirik attacks Izmir! Success!
Joint-British-Al Mirkan-French forces take Istanbul! Turkey is defeated!
Italian forces take Tyrol and Istira! Success!
Serbia seizes Sofia! Success
Serbian Army takes Belgarde! Serbia restroed!
1916
Russian Army seizes alot of land in north Austira,while italy is 10 miles from Vieena!
Russia is 10 miles from Vieena!
Opreatiob FULL POWER begins and Vieena is bisieged.
Vieena falls,Austira surrenders!
French-British troops begin to push into germany! Success!
Russia attacks Meklenburg~! Success!
Germany surrenders.
World War 2!
Al Mirik does nothing. In the cold war Al Mirik is netrual and since Isreal is under Al mirkian control,there isn't jewish wars.
Present day.



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Postby Layarteb » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:27 am

You're going to have to resubmit that in the proper format. Plus you definitely didn't read the first pages so ---
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Postby Terra Reborn » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:21 am

Making adjustment to my North America claim, dropping New Mexico and claiming Nevada in its place. Mainly because it makes no sense to have an unclaimed state in the middle of my territory...
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Postby Khorsun » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:06 am

Ten million is also a very small population figure for an Egyptian empire. Something about ten times that would be more likely.
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Postby URBOV » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:58 pm

Sorry for my silence the last few days, University Orientation.

Now that I'm back I'm going to post my history in the revision thread and begin some other stuff.

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Postby RomeW » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:18 pm

Miracum-Izmir wrote:Land(s) Claiming: Egypt,Isreal,Jordan,Syria,Lebanon,Iraq,North part of saudi arabia and Kuwait!


...and I've got Egypt. It's the crown jewel of the Empire. Sorry.
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Postby Layarteb » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:05 pm

So we have only two and a half weeks left in open history submission and no one has submitted any history yet...
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Postby Itailian Maifias » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:41 pm

Layarteb wrote:So we have only two and a half weeks left in open history submission and no one has submitted any history yet...

I promise you it will be done for myself, just like the French post I have in the works. Assuming this damn writer's block breaks.
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Postby Earth_ Two » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:26 pm

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  • Hi No Moto
    • Vacation mode activated.
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  • Khorsun
    • Claims added.
    • Thread added.
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    • Claims updated.
    • Map updated.
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    • Congrats you are now the largest nation on Earth II in terms of land area. However - and it pains me to say this - you have exceeded the total land ceiling with 7,065,710.029 mi² - you have to get under 6,500,000 mi².
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Postby URBOV » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:02 pm

Working out how to reduce the RUS, so far these territories will be ceded (somehow):

Moldova (retaining Transnistria)
Azerbaijan
Armenia
Georgia
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan

Ukraine:

Galicia
Bukovina
Lviv
Khmelnytskyi Oblast
Vinnytsia Oblast
Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast
Zakarpattia Oblast
Chernivtsi Oblast
Ternopil Oblast

brings me to: 6,582,081 sq mi. so I'm getting closer. Updates will be posted.

EDIT: Mogilev and Gomel will be ceded to Cot brining me to: 6,555,481.
Komi Republic will go to Cot bringing me under the limit to: 6,394,902.

I'd like to thread all of this out if possible.

EDIT EDIT:

Also me and Cot are doing a MT War thread about this transfer where I'll try to seize Moscow Oblast (still under the ceiling). At the moment however we're setting up and doing a PT War Thread 1911-1914 so give me some time here.

The other stuff I'll let go immediately if I have to, but it'd be cool if the powers that be (and everyone else) hold off claiming it to allow me to write a thread for it. That said, I'm down to bend to the wishes of the group.

EDIT EDIT EDIT:

This will also see the re-emergence of the Russian Concept of the, "Near Abroad" in regards to the land I'm ceding. Initial ideas are rough but I think the bulk of the territory will be let go during the Chaotic 90s (since I don't know what the RUS looks like in relation to the Soviet Union, it may be improper to say "dissolution").

The ruling party right now is the Russkaya Pravda Party which is a pro-Peasant (defined as all Rural Citizens) Party but it's inherently conservative nature is probably rooted in Soviet ideals/programs. This would make the Russian Union State a Communist State where the Revolutionaries of yesteryear have become the Reactionaries of today. Private Property may be allowed due to reform in the Chaotic 90s, and the 90s themselves could've seen a transition away from Marxism-Leninism towards the Russkaya Pravda ideology (Traditional Russian Conservatism plus Modern Agrarian Socialism plus Eurasianist Foreign Policy so essentially Slavophiles). I'm thinking of having their chief opposition party then be Eurocommunists or Anarchists (similar to Autonomia in Italy) who advocate real Communist Thought (Westernizers) while the Leninists are confined to the Army and various Organs of State Security.

Western Ukraine will go in a, "Colorful Revolution" where increasingly Pro-Western types hold a referendum to leave and the government lets them go instead of sparking a civil war.

All ideas though, nothing concrete yet.
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Postby Layarteb » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:54 pm

Check my TG and about the Caucasus - let's talk about that if the answer to my TG is "No"
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Postby Khorsun » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:44 pm

After the history project is over, maybe our next one could be working out the international trade system in some detail - figuring out who gets what from where, which should help make the world more interconnected and flesh out some relationships between trade partners/rivals.
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Postby Layarteb » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:44 pm

Khorsun wrote:After the history project is over, maybe our next one could be working out the international trade system in some detail - figuring out who gets what from where, which should help make the world more interconnected and flesh out some relationships between trade partners/rivals.


If people actually submit to the history project I'd be open to this but the overall lack of responses to it has me wondering.
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Postby URBOV » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:01 pm

After some weird Science called Math Lay has informed me that I don't need to cede Moldova or Western Ukraine so yeah, that's what's up.

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Postby Cotland » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:12 pm

Chill Lay, I'm working on fleshing out my history. Its slow process though, with barbeque parties and familiy stuff going on ;)

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Postby Cotland » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:32 am

You may wanna check that link there Lay. It links us to "Jump in the Fire", not "Killswitch Engage I".

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My keyboard has entered into a conspiracy against me! It is fixed now.
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Postby Ekilion » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:20 pm

Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan


Give to Central Ilkhanate/C.A.F please :D

On another note, expect updates out of me on things soon (sorry for missing stuff RL keeps hitting me with one thing after the other)
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Postby Layarteb » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:46 pm

Last week of history's --- pathetic showing.
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