Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v.3.0 -- CLOSED)

[Pavlostani]

I can deal with military restrictions. It may help me practice for when my nation disbands its military entirely. Autonomy to my Islamic provinces... by 1908 the Islamic provinces have been pacified and in 1909, the Ming Empire will be duly conquered. I do believe something I wrote on the wiki months ago just saved my ass. Either way, one might wonder why the MC Church would grant Khamulist states autonomy. Religious persecution... well we have laws against that in post-SAW Pavlostani, though I will admit that not everybody follows them.

Overall, I can't see consequences too negative.

Then I'll have to be more inventive.

All this is based on the assumption that I'd lose. After the SAW, King Amani will begin heavily building the military, especially the weak points-that is, the army.

Your weak point last time was your nation starving after a month. Given that our nations managed to easily defeat your fleets and navies (despite Cyprum's valiant efforts to intervene by smashing Khamul), I doubt there will be different results this time.

And with support from Pavlostani, I doubt food riots will break out like last time.

And with our fleets cutting you off? I doubt your support will mean much if we sink every second or third ship you send.

Unless FIN walks in and decides to back Sri!

In which case, Ino and Fan will probably walk in and back us.

It's the joy of having a Cold War-esque style atmosphere.

Tell me how you plan to get fleets into the Vitus. Also, defeating Sri's fleets in the last war was majorly based off of my own fleet (with some Inesean help yes), specifically my flak frigates. Given that Inesea collapsed, it's a few remnant states and you vs the might of Sri Tschow, Pavlostani, and hopefully FIN.

I have no response to Ino and Fan though. They're a complication I didn't see.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Inesea collpased, bu the MU has my major cities. I'm not a babe in the woods. But lets not wag dicks till after we finish Fall of Inesea.

[Mishmahig]

Tell me how you plan to get fleets into the Vitus.

The Tylosian and Mishmahigian Air Fleets (pride of their nations) would simply...sail over. Additionally, Mishmahig will be rebasing a fleet to help protect the Megaplexes during the Inesean collapse, so there's that.

Also, defeating Sri's fleets in the last war was majorly based off of my own fleet (with some Inesean help yes), specifically my flak frigates.

Inesea has a good navy and average air-fleet, I have an average navy and a pretty good air fleet, and our collective armies are meh. With that, we can probably meet your fleets on an equal basis, especially since you guys probably won't have a good collaboration early on in the war, while the Haven Compact has a unified headquarters and a solidified, flexible hierarchy.

So basically, smash you separately.

Given that Inesea collapsed, it's a few remnant states and you vs the might of Sri Tschow, Pavlostani, and hopefully FIN.

Sri has 14 million people and was starving after a month of war. Worrisome? Yes, but not urgent.
You are just coming out of a civil war, and probably need your own troops to continue pacifying the Muslim provinces/Ming Empire for a while, to prevent resurging nationalism. Plus, rebuilding efforts. Inesea has the Dominion, Tylos, and the Gold Crystal.
FIN, as far as I can see, has no real reason to intervene. Sri is no threat to them, now or in the future, you're a formerly genocidal and unstable region that some of them fought against in Voerdeland, and was a former member of AMEN. They, as far as I know, have no colonial ambitions in the immediate area, and, as far as I know, little to no interactions with you guys. Direct intervention, especially at the risk of bringing in Ino and Fan? Unlikely. It's far more plausible that they'd sit back and sell weapons while watching foreigners beat the crud out of each other.

I have no response to Ino and Fan though. They're a complication I didn't see.

Indeed.

Basically, I'm wondering why Sri wants a war over missionaries.

But, as Inesea said, we should hold this off until the Collapse is finished, or at least, concluding. Just giving Sri a heads up.

[Sri Tschow]

I never said I wanted a war, I just said I'd kill any missionaries you send to my nation.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Now I'm wondering why Sri surrendered when all he had to do was ask for both military and foodstuff support...and again, I wonder why I didn't just send more than 10,000 troops to the Khamulian border...

Damn commies have a lot to explain during the civil war...

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

I never said I wanted a war, I just said I'd kill any missionaries you send to my nation.

We're essentially a theocracy.

[Mishmahig]

I never said I wanted a war, I just said I'd kill any missionaries you send to my nation.

We're essentially a theocracy.

Exactly. How else would you expect us to react?

Now I'm wondering why Sri surrendered when all he had to do was ask for both military and foodstuff support...and again, I wonder why I didn't just send more than 10,000 troops to the Khamulian border...

Damn commies have a lot to explain during the civil war...

To be fair, your 10k soldiers did quite a bit of damage and caused us a great deal of distress.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

We're essentially a theocracy.

Exactly. How else would you expect us to react?

Now I'm wondering why Sri surrendered when all he had to do was ask for both military and foodstuff support...and again, I wonder why I didn't just send more than 10,000 troops to the Khamulian border...

Damn commies have a lot to explain during the civil war...

To be fair, your 10k soldiers did quite a bit of damage and caused us a great deal of distress.

Perhaps, but that wasn't our intended goal. What we wanted to do was to go into a major city and simply wreak havoc. Khamulians have morale too, and forcing them to see their own homeland in ruins was what we tried to do. After that, a larger army was to force their way through the (hopefully) demoralized peoples and demand an unconditional surrender.

Of course, this never happened.

[Mishmahig]

Exactly. How else would you expect us to react?



To be fair, your 10k soldiers did quite a bit of damage and caused us a great deal of distress.

Perhaps, but that wasn't our intended goal. What we wanted to do was to go into a major city and simply wreak havoc. Khamulians have morale too, and forcing them to see their own homeland in ruins was what we tried to do. After that, a larger army was to force their way through the (hopefully) demoralized peoples and demand an unconditional surrender.

Of course, this never happened.

A shame to not be able to RP that, but hopefully you'll have a chance to RP similarly sweeping military tactics in the civil war?

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Perhaps, but that wasn't our intended goal. What we wanted to do was to go into a major city and simply wreak havoc. Khamulians have morale too, and forcing them to see their own homeland in ruins was what we tried to do. After that, a larger army was to force their way through the (hopefully) demoralized peoples and demand an unconditional surrender.

Of course, this never happened.

A shame to not be able to RP that, but hopefully you'll have a chance to RP similarly sweeping military tactics in the civil war?

Yes. I certainly hoped for a time where my armed forces would start roflstomping our own citizens. Yes, that's EXACTLY what I wanted.

I crai evrytiem.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Cyprum, what would YOUR side be in a Compact-SriPav War?

[Mishmahig]

A shame to not be able to RP that, but hopefully you'll have a chance to RP similarly sweeping military tactics in the civil war?

Yes. I certainly hoped for a time where my armed forces would start roflstomping our own citizens. Yes, that's EXACTLY what I wanted.

I crai evrytiem.

I meant...the RPing? Not necessarily your IC reaction or result, but at least you get to write similar outcomes?

Cyprum, what would YOUR side be in a Compact-SriPav War?

I doubt Cyprum's civil war will be over quickly enough for him to intervene, especially since quite a few nations (FIN? Fan/Ino?) are planning to supply or intervene on one side or another.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Looks like Communism is dead and gone from our world.

[Mishmahig]

Looks like Communism is dead and gone from our world.

Unless the socialists win, but I believe most of FIN/Fan/Ino said they'd support the...monarchy...I think.

The Dominion is staying out of the whole thing, except to sell supplies to whoever wants it, and to ask admittance for the Gold Crystal to help. Beyond that, no reason to intervene.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Yes. I certainly hoped for a time where my armed forces would start roflstomping our own citizens. Yes, that's EXACTLY what I wanted.

I crai evrytiem.

I meant...the RPing? Not necessarily your IC reaction or result, but at least you get to write similar outcomes?

Cyprum, what would YOUR side be in a Compact-SriPav War?

I doubt Cyprum's civil war will be over quickly enough for him to intervene, especially since quite a few nations (FIN? Fan/Ino?) are planning to supply or intervene on one side or another.

If I had a chance, I'd send expeditionary forces against Sri-Pav. The civil war will be for a while, but that doesn't mean that one of the factions can't use military victories to help gain supporters to their side.

[Mishmahig]

I meant...the RPing? Not necessarily your IC reaction or result, but at least you get to write similar outcomes?



I doubt Cyprum's civil war will be over quickly enough for him to intervene, especially since quite a few nations (FIN? Fan/Ino?) are planning to supply or intervene on one side or another.

If I had a chance, I'd send expeditionary forces against Sri-Pav. The civil war will be for a while, but that doesn't mean that one of the factions can't use military victories to help gain supporters to their side.

Oh, so a situation like the Chinese Civil War, where the Nationalists and Communists were fighting for control of China proper, while simultaneously fighting against the Japanese?

Mmm, an interesting twist. Out of curiosity, have you planned out the end result of the war (including time), or are you adopting a 'wait and see' attitude?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

You will all perish under the might of the Piety Cannon. The Piety Cannon turns Religious Devotion into Directed Energy!

But in all seriousness, would a Technical be viable in 1906?

[Servoth]

Direct intervention, especially at the risk of bringing in Ino and Fan? Unlikely. It's far more plausible that they'd sit back and sell weapons while watching foreigners beat the crud out of each other.

Clever girl, this Lamb of Henri.

Oh, so a situation like the Chinese Civil War, where the Nationalists and Communists were fighting for control of China proper, while simultaneously fighting against the Japanese?

Mmm, an interesting twist. Out of curiosity, have you planned out the end result of the war (including time), or are you adopting a 'wait and see' attitude?

Except this time the Nationalists win, with little strings attacked to a master in Amplector...

You will all perish under the might of the Piety Cannon. The Piety Cannon turns Religious Devotion into Directed Energy@

I'll make note of this. Don't eat HC until we've finished the first couple of courses in the other parts of the world! Now I've got that written down in my little Red Book.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

If I had a chance, I'd send expeditionary forces against Sri-Pav. The civil war will be for a while, but that doesn't mean that one of the factions can't use military victories to help gain supporters to their side.

Oh, so a situation like the Chinese Civil War, where the Nationalists and Communists were fighting for control of China proper, while simultaneously fighting against the Japanese?

Mmm, an interesting twist. Out of curiosity, have you planned out the end result of the war (including time), or are you adopting a 'wait and see' attitude?

@Situation: Somewhat like that, although we aren't being attacked. Also, if any of the sides decide to use the military for any reason, it will probably be for selfish gains and whatnot.
@Planning: War itself ends the summer of 1908. Political tensions will still continue till the end of the 1910s, albeit with much less violence overall. From 1908-1915 a provisional government (an oligarchy) consisting of some distinguished individuals from the various unaffiliated government organizations will lead the country. The oligarchy will also be advised by the Imperials and Socialists till 1918, when one of the factions will step down and become a minority in state affairs indefinitely. By 1920 the minority faction would have had most of their assets taken in by the state/ruling faction, and things will stabilize from there.

I'll RP the war, but everything else from then on will be occasionally hinted in other RPs. Who wins in the end? Eh, the Imperials. Just like Japan has a communist party, we'll have a communist party. Unlike Japan though, our history of communism allows the socialists to have a significant role in internal affairs (e.g. education) even when they're kicked out of power.

[Fanaglia]

Actually, Germany is tiny compared to the lot of you.

The new me. Post-Jenny Craig Inesea

@Fan, so would an early Technical be viable in 1906? In limited number?

@ size: population-wise, you're smaller than modern-day Germany, sure, but size-wise, you're almost four times as large

@ "Early Technical": I'm not sure what you mean.

Where you go? Siberia?

Texas

Confirmed: It is still the past in Texas.

Perhaps, but I'd prefer to have more positive relationships with my neighbors. Sri might win the war against you guys alone, but I wouldn't reap any benefits.

96 million against 14 million. Highly unlikely.

Not necessarily. Now, that being said, Sri's chances of a truly EPIC steamrolling are at approximately 89.7%.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

The new me. Post-Jenny Craig Inesea

@Fan, so would an early Technical be viable in 1906? In limited number?

@ size: population-wise, you're smaller than modern-day Germany, sure, but size-wise, you're almost four times as large

@ "Early Technical": I'm not sure what you mean.

Texas

Confirmed: It is still the past in Texas.

96 million against 14 million. Highly unlikely.

Not necessarily. Now, that being said, Sri's chances of a truly EPIC steamrolling are at approximately 89.7%.

So...that's good right?

[Fanaglia]

Post up in Fall.

What needs to happen now:

1. Someone (not me, since I've been pushed to the back) needs to lead off the VAF push towards the Cycuiians, leading to the first time sighting each other and/or first shots fired.

2. I need to get news of Brandburg to Onheath and then that news back to Nahuatl, when the decision will be made to pull out quietly and immediately, citing the existing troubles in Onheath as their "official" excuse for the sake of not jeopordizing the alliance with Khamul, after which point, Inesea will no longer be anyone's problem in V-Land.

3. Pav's guys need to respond to my sentries' welcome.

So...that's good right?

What's good? For whom?

[Mishmahig]

Not necessarily. Now, that being said, Sri's chances of a truly EPIC steamrolling are at approximately 89.7%.

So...that's good right?

I think Fan meant that Sri's chances of being epicly steamrolled were at approximately 89.7%.

Which would be bad for Sri, yes.

[Fanaglia]

So...that's good right?

I think Fan meant that Sri's chances of being epicly steamrolled were at approximately 89.7%.

Which would be bad for Sri, yes.

This is what I meant.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

I think Fan meant that Sri's chances of being epicly steamrolled were at approximately 89.7%.

Which would be bad for Sri, yes.

This is what I meant.

There we go. From Fan's first post, it appeared as if she was saying his chances of steamrolling the rest were high.

How did you conclude percentage anyway? By just population or...? NVM.