Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v.3.0 -- CLOSED)

[Cyprum Xecuii]

@SAW: Ino posted, how delightful!

@Nozomu and tact: She's just mad because she had been forced by social norms to say something.

She's going to be really mad by the end of this conference then. D:

Well, the battles in Pav's country on the "Southeast Khamulian front" were pretty short and legally justifiable due to co-operation treaties which entitle mutual defense. Plus, Sri is right next to me so if he gets cut up and the body parts of his people suddenly find their way onto our beaches, that isn't too pleasing to view.

Basically, I didn't do much to Pav and he didn't do much to me. All the Cycuiian leadership wants is a rapid decision so that they can focus more attention to the country. It's ironic though, the war didn't hurt us much so we probably devoted a minuscule amount of attention to SAW anyways.

I imagine that in less than two hours since the beginning of the conference, Nozomu will commit suicide by asking Makoto and Akairo to bury her alive in the hole that they had dug.


@Fan: Whalalalalalalalalalalalotsofwords!!

[Inoroth]

@Inesea - When is Baker's day again? I lost the post that told me that... December 25? 26? I forget

@Cyprum - Well, put little in, get little out.

@Fan - TL;DR

But I did skim it, and it made sense... I guess all I meant was that it would be very convenient if people would stop using Catholic to describe their non-RCC affiliated churches, and that Eastern Orthodox not be the generic term that everyone uses, because then there will be too many Eastern Orthodox Churches with the same name... whether they are actually connected or not, or who was actually first, or most of that stuff doesn't really matter to me, as long as there is something in their churches' name that quickly and easily distinguishes them from other Orthodox Churches.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

26th-27th

[Inoroth]

@Inesea - Puuuurrrrrfect; there will be blood.

[Fanaglia]

@Fan: Whalalalalalalalalalalalotsofwords!!

Sorry. I'm a writer. Sometimes I get to rambling

@Fan - TL;DR

But I did skim it, and it made sense... I guess all I meant was that it would be very convenient if people would stop using Catholic to describe their non-RCC affiliated churches, and that Eastern Orthodox not be the generic term that everyone uses, because then there will be too many Eastern Orthodox Churches with the same name... whether they are actually connected or not, or who was actually first, or most of that stuff doesn't really matter to me, as long as there is something in their churches' name that quickly and easily distinguishes them from other Orthodox Churches.

Before I get to the tl;dr, I would also like to point out that the Orthodox Church is also "Catholic." The term "Catholic" originally referred to the original Christian Church (like up until the Great Schism in the 11th century). It wasn't until well after the Protestant Reformation that people started using the word "Catholic" to differentiate Protestants from Roman Catholics. In a country like the US or most of western Europe, where the vast majority of Catholics are Roman Catholic, most people assume "Catholic" and "Roman Catholic" are interchangeable. If you made this mistake in eastern Europe or parts of the Middle East, you would at best get weird looks and at worst get beaten up.

So, basically, if you're "Catholic" in Vapor (or in real life), your church answers to either the Rothian church or is a sub-sect of Catholic Orthodoxy, a.k.a. the Eastern Orthodox Church or just the Orthodox Church. Otherwise, you can't call yourself "Catholic."

The tl;dr of what I wrote before is that, yes, we have Greek, Russian, Oriental, Antiochian, and a whole bunch of other Orthodox Churches, but they all fall under the umbrella of "Eastern Orthodox," "Orthodox Catholic," or just "Orthodox," which really just means "not heretics." The leaders of each church meet in Istanbul to make their decisions democratically (contrasted with the Roman Catholic Pope's infallability), but the Greek Orthodox patriarch is sort of the unofficial leader. The Church of Rome (now the Roman Catholic Church) used to be a part of this Orthodox Catholic Church, but they decided to start doing their own thing without approval from the Council and got kicked out.

[Inoroth]

@Fan - well, that's all nice, but the point still remains that we need some way of differentiating each sect... RCC = Rothian Catholic, so there can be other Catholics (like Inesean Catholics), and that's fine, because there's a distinction... Sri calling his Christians "Eastern Orthodox" is too vague, because any non-Amplectorian nation could have an "Eastern Orthodox Church"... guess that's really my point - I'm not Catholic or Orthodox, so I don't really care to argue about them.

[Novairia]

Pew pew pew... SAW post up, now to go check the cattle for newborn calves, then off to bed.

[Fanaglia]

@Fan - well, that's all nice, but the point still remains that we need some way of differentiating each sect... RCC = Rothian Catholic, so there can be other Catholics (like Inesean Catholics), and that's fine, because there's a distinction... Sri calling his Christians "Eastern Orthodox" is too vague, because any non-Amplectorian nation could have an "Eastern Orthodox Church"... guess that's really my point - I'm not Catholic or Orthodox, so I don't really care to argue about them.

My problem was also with Sri's claim to "Eastern Orthodox," but my objection was far more complicated. I mean, in my demographic chart, I list a certain percentage (I believe about 15%, but I can't be bothered to look it up) as "Eastern Orthodox," which I use as a sort of umbrella term. That 15% includes Dalish, Fanaglian, Valorian, and a few other Orthodox sub-sects, with Fanaglian being by far the most prevalent, of course. My issue came when Sri said he was host to the headquarters of the "Eastern Orthodox Church" when it A) made no sense for it to be there and B)I'm pretty sure he knew nothing about the Faith when he said it and just wanted to make himself sound special and important.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

For about four hours, yes. How would they know? They can not see. When light began to appear, in what limited quantities it does, they would have left back for Onheath to resupply. Probably one or two FTCs left behind to see what happened.

What do you mean by "in what limited quantities it does"? If you're talking about sunlight, I don't think you quite understand -- by March or February or maybe even late January, there will be a sort of twilight where the sun almost comes up, but never quite does. In December, a mere week after the winter solstice, there is no day, no twilight, no nothing. It's like midnight 24 hours a day. So, like I said, if they're waiting for the sun to come up, they'll be waiting well over a month or more.

Here's what irritates me: you said nothing about the ships that remained behind at Brandburg. I'll admit, it makes sense that a few would, but, given your posts, I could have just as easily believed that they all left in pursuit of the Gratian ships. You were not clear. I would not have written my post the way I did had you been so. Then you continued to RP, continuing to not acknowledge these ships left behind, even though you knew Pav was killing everyone. Also, your argument that they had no idea what was going on because it was dark out is bullshit because the whole compound, as Pav made very clear, is lit fairly well, at least in most places. This further reinforces my assumption that there was nobody there. Gratia has been gone for forever -- you had your opportunity to place them there and you failed to do so. So either all the ones who stayed behind were poisoned/engulfed in flame/crashed, they landed and saw everyone was dead and went home to report, or they all went chasing after the Gratians and left no one behind because now they can't be there once the VPG arrive.

@Fan -

1.) I'd like Islam to originate in Dal
2.) Judaism to originate in Gratia
3.) Churches not affiliated with the RCC (Orthodox, etc...) to have the nation name in front of them (i.e. Inesean Orthodox, Tschowan Orthodox, Averian Orthodox, etc...)
4.) Catholic Christianity originated in Roth like RL Rome

If that's at all feasible

1,2, and 4 all make sense. 3 would not be entirely inaccurate, tough perhaps you don't quite understand how it works in real life (I could be wrong, though). Basically, IRL, I'm Greek Orthodox, which is a sub-sect of Eastern Orthodox. All the other Orthodox churches (Russian, Antiochian, Oriental, etc.) answer to the Council in Constantinople (now called Istanbul, Turkey). The Roman Catholic Church once was a sub-sect of this church until the Great Schism; it was not called the "Roman Orthodox Church" because "Orthodox" basically means "still part of the original group." Until the Roman church broke away, there was nothing to be "orthodox" in respect to because there was just "the church." So, basically, by referring to themselves as "Eastern Orthodox," all the sub-sects under that umbrella are effectively calling themselves "not those crazy, rebellious heretics over there."

The different sub-sects were created as a way of more easily managing the spread of the Word across the known world and there was supposed to be one sub-sect for every region in the world. So the Church of Rome witnessed to the Roman Empire; the Church of Byzantium (now the Greek Orthodox Church) witnessed to Greece; the Russian Orthodox to Russia; the Oriental Orthodox to "The Orient"; and so-on. The patriarchs of each sub-sect meet in Istanbul, which is sort of like Vatican City to us. Since the Church was established in what was the Byzantine Empire at the time, the Greek Orthodox Church is sort of unofficially considered the "main" sub-sect of the Eastern Orthodox Church and is generally considered to be tasked with witnessing to the "diaspora," which, in essence, applies to anyone not already covered by a regional sub-sect of the Church. The Greek Orthodox Patriarch is also considered sort of the unofficial head of all the Eastern Orthodox sub-sects for this reason and is almost sort of like our pope.

There has occasionally been talk of adding an American Orthodox Church because we're clearly our own region and the only reason there wasn't one already is because they didn't know this landmass existed. What's interesting is that, if the Council was still whole, it would probably happen for this reason. The problem is, though, that, when they were established in the fourth century, one of their main rules was that any new decision had to be completely unanimous. Interestingly, the Church of Rome was never fully excommunicated and the Pope's vote would still be needed to make a decision as big as that. Unfortunately for everyone, though, the Pope is forbidden from voting because he (and all his predecessors dating back to the Schism) is (oddly politely) considered a heretic for all the changes the Roman Catholic Church has made over the centuries that are in conflict with Orthodox dogma. For him to be allowed to vote, he would have to bring the Roman church back into line with ours, and that's unlikely to happen. That's why the Roman Church has changed so much while the Orthodox Church is still basically the same as it was in the 11th century.

So, basically, the Eastern Orthodox predates the Rothian Church; otherwise it couldn't be "Orthodox." If you're basing it off of Rome, then there was the Church. Then you broke away to do your own thing. We're still doing ours. There were centuries of bad blood, but now we're mostly cool, especially among those who are not high-ranking members of either church. Oriental Orthodox or Tschowand Orthodox or whatever he wants to call it will by nature answer to the Orthodox Church (which does not necessarily have to be referred to as "Eastern"), which is either headquartered somewhere in Dal or in Carbur, eastern Fanaglia, which would also mean that either Dalish Orthodox or Fanaglian Orthodox would be the "prime" Orthodox faith, like Greek Orthodox is IRL.

1.) At 67 Degrees North, there wouldn't be a month of Darkness. Barely a day or two.

2.)I did order a strafing and A persuit

Enraged, he ordered 10 FTC-Bs attached to the First to strafe the obviously Gratian occupied parts of the camp when he saw several Gratian aerosruisers taking off. He was infuriated that the cowards would attack a settlement, kill the inhabitants, then presumably flee with the spoils! The barbarity struck him hard. He turned to the Inter Fleet Comm Offficer and said," Go with Plan Cuzco. And tell the ordnance boys to use that HE rounds. "

The rest of the FTC contingent dropped below the the cloud cover and opened up upon the Gratian vessels, whose presences were betrayed by the very fires they had started. Most aeroships fired with the newer, semi-experimental explosive rounds designed for this combat. These thin capped rounds raced down behind the normal AP rounds, impacting and exploding where the AP rounds just tore. The result was....... fascinating.

[Inoroth]

@Fan -

My problem was also with Sri's claim to "Eastern Orthodox," but my objection was far more complicated. I mean, in my demographic chart, I list a certain percentage (I believe about 15%, but I can't be bothered to look it up) as "Eastern Orthodox," which I use as a sort of umbrella term. That 15% includes Dalish, Fanaglian, Valorian, and a few other Orthodox sub-sects, with Fanaglian being by far the most prevalent, of course. My issue came when Sri said he was host to the headquarters of the "Eastern Orthodox Church" when it A) made no sense for it to be there and B)I'm pretty sure he knew nothing about the Faith when he said it and just wanted to make himself sound special and important.

Ok, that's a fair point. I mean, I don't know anything about Orthodox, and very little about the Catholic Church, but as Vapor's version of Italy, I figured I needed to have the Pope in Rome. I host the Rothian Catholic Church though, so others can have other Catholic Churches based out of wherever they wish... so yeah.

@Inesea - All I know is that we've all been operating under the assumption that it was, is, and will be dark in V-land for a while.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

@Fan -

My problem was also with Sri's claim to "Eastern Orthodox," but my objection was far more complicated. I mean, in my demographic chart, I list a certain percentage (I believe about 15%, but I can't be bothered to look it up) as "Eastern Orthodox," which I use as a sort of umbrella term. That 15% includes Dalish, Fanaglian, Valorian, and a few other Orthodox sub-sects, with Fanaglian being by far the most prevalent, of course. My issue came when Sri said he was host to the headquarters of the "Eastern Orthodox Church" when it A) made no sense for it to be there and B)I'm pretty sure he knew nothing about the Faith when he said it and just wanted to make himself sound special and important.

Ok, that's a fair point. I mean, I don't know anything about Orthodox, and very little about the Catholic Church, but as Vapor's version of Italy, I figured I needed to have the Pope in Rome. I host the Rothian Catholic Church though, so others can have other Catholic Churches based out of wherever they wish... so yeah.

@Inesea - All I know is that we've all been operating under the assumption that it was, is, and will be dark in V-land for a while.

*Whiny voice* You said there would be blood! Where is the blood?

[Inoroth]

It's in cyberspace!

But seriously, I'll try to have it out by tonight.

[Mishmahig]

Post up on SAW.

We seriously need to get things rolling. Every time the momentum starts, it cracks and falls apart again.

[Inoroth]

@Mish - Agreed, but if I do too much, my actions will resemble an imperialist trying to force their position on everyone esle present, considering the fact that I am not actually at war with anyone at the conference.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Post up on SAW.

We seriously need to get things rolling. Every time the momentum starts, it cracks and falls apart again.

It could be easier if you didn't ask for our opinion on the war and just made some terms to end it off.


For example, you guys join in a pact and I promise for strong co-op trade with you guys. You say no, we must join. In response, we leave. Done.

Win win for all.

[Mishmahig]

Post up on SAW.

We seriously need to get things rolling. Every time the momentum starts, it cracks and falls apart again.

It could be easier if you didn't ask for our opinion on the war and just made some terms to end it off.

We did. It didn't work. Which is why we're doing this now.

For example, you guys join in a pact and I promise for strong co-op trade with you guys. You say no, we must join. In response, we leave. Done.

Win win for all.

That's actually a lose-lose situation.

So can we agree, OOC, that the conference has failed? The sooner we agree on this OOC, the sooner we can end this conference IC and get the war back on track.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

It could be easier if you didn't ask for our opinion on the war and just made some terms to end it off.

We did. It didn't work. Which is why we're doing this now.

For example, you guys join in a pact and I promise for strong co-op trade with you guys. You say no, we must join. In response, we leave. Done.

Win win for all.

That's actually a lose-lose situation.

It was a joke. Feel free to try and restart the momentum though, I'm sure we'll bring it back down.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

If the War continues, with Sri already having signed peace, then he and Cyprum wouldn't fight. It would be Nova, alone, being imperialist.

[Fanaglia]

What do you mean by "in what limited quantities it does"? If you're talking about sunlight, I don't think you quite understand -- by March or February or maybe even late January, there will be a sort of twilight where the sun almost comes up, but never quite does. In December, a mere week after the winter solstice, there is no day, no twilight, no nothing. It's like midnight 24 hours a day. So, like I said, if they're waiting for the sun to come up, they'll be waiting well over a month or more.

Here's what irritates me: you said nothing about the ships that remained behind at Brandburg. I'll admit, it makes sense that a few would, but, given your posts, I could have just as easily believed that they all left in pursuit of the Gratian ships. You were not clear. I would not have written my post the way I did had you been so. Then you continued to RP, continuing to not acknowledge these ships left behind, even though you knew Pav was killing everyone. Also, your argument that they had no idea what was going on because it was dark out is bullshit because the whole compound, as Pav made very clear, is lit fairly well, at least in most places. This further reinforces my assumption that there was nobody there. Gratia has been gone for forever -- you had your opportunity to place them there and you failed to do so. So either all the ones who stayed behind were poisoned/engulfed in flame/crashed, they landed and saw everyone was dead and went home to report, or they all went chasing after the Gratians and left no one behind because now they can't be there once the VPG arrive.



1,2, and 4 all make sense. 3 would not be entirely inaccurate, tough perhaps you don't quite understand how it works in real life (I could be wrong, though). Basically, IRL, I'm Greek Orthodox, which is a sub-sect of Eastern Orthodox. All the other Orthodox churches (Russian, Antiochian, Oriental, etc.) answer to the Council in Constantinople (now called Istanbul, Turkey). The Roman Catholic Church once was a sub-sect of this church until the Great Schism; it was not called the "Roman Orthodox Church" because "Orthodox" basically means "still part of the original group." Until the Roman church broke away, there was nothing to be "orthodox" in respect to because there was just "the church." So, basically, by referring to themselves as "Eastern Orthodox," all the sub-sects under that umbrella are effectively calling themselves "not those crazy, rebellious heretics over there."

The different sub-sects were created as a way of more easily managing the spread of the Word across the known world and there was supposed to be one sub-sect for every region in the world. So the Church of Rome witnessed to the Roman Empire; the Church of Byzantium (now the Greek Orthodox Church) witnessed to Greece; the Russian Orthodox to Russia; the Oriental Orthodox to "The Orient"; and so-on. The patriarchs of each sub-sect meet in Istanbul, which is sort of like Vatican City to us. Since the Church was established in what was the Byzantine Empire at the time, the Greek Orthodox Church is sort of unofficially considered the "main" sub-sect of the Eastern Orthodox Church and is generally considered to be tasked with witnessing to the "diaspora," which, in essence, applies to anyone not already covered by a regional sub-sect of the Church. The Greek Orthodox Patriarch is also considered sort of the unofficial head of all the Eastern Orthodox sub-sects for this reason and is almost sort of like our pope.

There has occasionally been talk of adding an American Orthodox Church because we're clearly our own region and the only reason there wasn't one already is because they didn't know this landmass existed. What's interesting is that, if the Council was still whole, it would probably happen for this reason. The problem is, though, that, when they were established in the fourth century, one of their main rules was that any new decision had to be completely unanimous. Interestingly, the Church of Rome was never fully excommunicated and the Pope's vote would still be needed to make a decision as big as that. Unfortunately for everyone, though, the Pope is forbidden from voting because he (and all his predecessors dating back to the Schism) is (oddly politely) considered a heretic for all the changes the Roman Catholic Church has made over the centuries that are in conflict with Orthodox dogma. For him to be allowed to vote, he would have to bring the Roman church back into line with ours, and that's unlikely to happen. That's why the Roman Church has changed so much while the Orthodox Church is still basically the same as it was in the 11th century.

So, basically, the Eastern Orthodox predates the Rothian Church; otherwise it couldn't be "Orthodox." If you're basing it off of Rome, then there was the Church. Then you broke away to do your own thing. We're still doing ours. There were centuries of bad blood, but now we're mostly cool, especially among those who are not high-ranking members of either church. Oriental Orthodox or Tschowand Orthodox or whatever he wants to call it will by nature answer to the Orthodox Church (which does not necessarily have to be referred to as "Eastern"), which is either headquartered somewhere in Dal or in Carbur, eastern Fanaglia, which would also mean that either Dalish Orthodox or Fanaglian Orthodox would be the "prime" Orthodox faith, like Greek Orthodox is IRL.

1.) At 67 Degrees North, there wouldn't be a month of Darkness. Barely a day or two.

2.)I did order a strafing and A persuit

Enraged, he ordered 10 FTC-Bs attached to the First to strafe the obviously Gratian occupied parts of the camp when he saw several Gratian aerosruisers taking off. He was infuriated that the cowards would attack a settlement, kill the inhabitants, then presumably flee with the spoils! The barbarity struck him hard. He turned to the Inter Fleet Comm Offficer and said," Go with Plan Cuzco. And tell the ordnance boys to use that HE rounds. "

The rest of the FTC contingent dropped below the the cloud cover and opened up upon the Gratian vessels, whose presences were betrayed by the very fires they had started. Most aeroships fired with the newer, semi-experimental explosive rounds designed for this combat. These thin capped rounds raced down behind the normal AP rounds, impacting and exploding where the AP rounds just tore. The result was....... fascinating.

You are partially right about the sunrise thing; that was my mistake. When I started talking about the long nights before, that was before we actually had longitude/latitude lines, so I was basing my assumptions on the superimposition of the RL map, which, as we've discussed, was not actually lined up by latitude. I looked up sunrise/sunset data for RL towns at a similar latitude (at 67°N, it would be a bit north of Fort Yukon, Alaska) and saw that it would have only maybe an hour of daylight on December 27th.

That was my mistake there, I admit, but still, it's only an hour of very poor light with the sun hanging just above the horizon (if above it at all, depending on whether there are mountains or high hills on the horizon). It also won't come until around noon. So you're telling me that your ships just hung out for eleven hours while their men get killed down below in the big, well-lit compound that should not be that hard to see, even at a distance? And also that this is in temperatures that average -15°F and can get as low as -60°F, where they magically have enough fuel to keep the ships in controlled flight and the cabins heated? There is also the danger posed to the ships' envelopes by the heavy ice that would accumulate on their skins, especially considering the relative low temperatures resulting from a depressurized gas. To sustain flight for that long, the gas would have to be heated to prevent this, which would greatly increase the risk of fire. Note the difficulty I mentioned with my own few airships that have been to V-Land and the fact that your ships are, essentially, the same.

No, in those eleven hours, your men would have landed had they been there. They would have been on the ground and securing the camp before the VPG forces even arrived. But you didn't RP it that way; you didn't even make a fuss about it until I mentioned my guys (well, Gratia's VPG characters) moving in. And no, your post about strafing the camp was not sufficient to establish the long-lingering presence you now claim to have had. They could just as easily have followed the other Inesean ships to pursue the Gratians once their attack was finished or have been brought down by the poison or the fireball.

Quit being a sore loser and fucking get over it. If you want to RP that a small handful of men was left behind to stand watch over the camp and has gone undetected by the VPG until now while their comrades returned to Onheath to report, I could be all right with that, but don't give me that bullshit that "Oh, well, you can't take over because my guys were still there because I want them to be, ex post facto."

[Inoroth]

RE: SAW - Well, like Inesea said, Sri has signed peace with him, so if Marino can get Sri to sign with Mish as well, it cuts Sri and Cyprum right out of Inoroth's target list, because right now we have no obligation to Pavlo, so the war in that theater is irrelevant... that leaves Novaria as our only target, which greatly simplifies Vinchero's commitments...

Basically, I am asking Mish and Sri OOC if there is any hope they might end hostilities before the end of the conference... if yes, then please do it before the disaster, if no, then I am fine with the conference ending ASAP (well, preferably after tempers flare and people storm out, but whatever works) so we can get to the fighting again. Be warned, I've been so busy working that I have all kinds of war ideas that I'm just dying to try out!

@Inesea - Another section done in V-lad, only one to go!

[Sri Tschow]

Please look at my factbook to see my national religion. I made a typo with the 'Eastern Orthodox' thing, it is a religion that does not answer to the Orthodox Council-thingy.

[Mishmahig]

RE: SAW - Well, like Inesea said, Sri has signed peace with him, so if Marino can get Sri to sign with Mish as well, it cuts Sri and Cyprum right out of Inoroth's target list, because right now we have no obligation to Pavlo, so the war in that theater is irrelevant... that leaves Novaria as our only target, which greatly simplifies Vinchero's commitments...

Basically, I am asking Mish and Sri OOC if there is any hope they might end hostilities before the end of the conference... if yes, then please do it before the disaster, if no, then I am fine with the conference ending ASAP (well, preferably after tempers flare and people storm out, but whatever works) so we can get to the fighting again. Be warned, I've been so busy working that I have all kinds of war ideas that I'm just dying to try out!

@Inesea - Another section done in V-lad, only one to go!

Mishmahig entered the war against Sri Tschow solely on the basis of the AMEN mutual defense treaty. If Sri Tschow has signed for peace with Inesea (and, it is assumed, Pavlostani), then Mishmahig will no longer be at war with Sri Tschow because we have no casus belli. We view Cyprum and Novairia to be unwarranted aggressors, however, and will most likely remain at war if the pieces fall like they seem to be.

So:

Sri--> peace
Cyprum --> likely peace (wariness, though)
Novairia --> continued war with AMEN

[Fanaglia]

Please look at my factbook to see my national religion. I made a typo with the 'Eastern Orthodox' thing, it is a religion that does not answer to the Orthodox Council-thingy.

You can be Oriental Orthodox. You can be Tschowan Orthodox. You can be Tschowan Catholic. None of those necessarily have to answer to the Eastern Orthodox Church (RL example: during the Cold War, the Russian Orthodox Church was split, so several churches of slightly differing dogmatic observances all call themselves "Russian Orthodox," though only maybe half of them actually fall under the "Eastern Orthodox" umbrella and answer to the Council). You, however, cannot call it Eastern Orthodox unless you're actually, you know, Eastern Orthodox, which would, by definition, mean that they fall under the jurisdiction of the Council.

[Pavlostani]

In SAW, it looks like The Pact will win either the conference or the war. Surely Silvak can see this. But, international politics in Vapor compose of one nation fucking another, so there's a 50/50 chance that war might begin again.

[Servoth]

PANDA

Name: Heidi Stofl
Born: Janaury 9th, 1879
Died: TBA
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Title(s): Aliased as "Ms. Thinker", mistakenly as "Mr."

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