Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v.3.0 -- CLOSED)

[Vitzenburg]

Sorry fan, I've had a shit ton of work to do lately because of my treatments and homework piling up I barley have time to scratch my back.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Sorry fan, I've had a shit ton of work to do lately because of my treatments and homework piling up I barley have time to scratch my back.

Barley...and hops! Ha!

Beer...heh. Couldn't help it lol.

[Sri Tschow]

You haven't seen anything until you've seen the flesh stripped clean from a human body just seconds after a nuclear explosion. I can describe that in detail if you want me to, do you?

How the fuck do you know what that looks like?

[Fanaglia]

You can do the soldier, but you may want to wait on doing the Neracca. I forgot about your armored convoy, but you'll definitely want to wait before you RP their arrival. I mean, I'm putting off the VPG forces' getting back in touch with Command following the repair of the telegraph equipment. Just be patient. We'll catch up.

Little to late now. Also, your Voerds happened to ignore the 20ish combat ships above them.

I did forget about the ships they came in on

But, in my defense, hydrogen cyanide (also occasionally still called Prussic Acid at this point in time, though popularity of the term was declining in favor of the chemical name hydrogen cyanide) is lighter-than-air, so the ships would have been caught in the cloud if they didn't retreat in time. It's also quite flammable and the detonation of the mines could easily have ignited it all, which I was alluding to with all the burning buildings when the VPG arrived. Your ships could easily have been caught in the fireball, crashing down and causing more chaos and destruction.

Maybe I'm a psycopath and an insensitive person, but the video didn't mess with my head like it did all of you. Yes, I was bothered that people are squeezed in a tube with a fire behind them, but it wasn't all graphic and gory, the only part that was disturbing really was the beginning when the fire started and you saw some of the band go up in the flames.

The looks on the faces of the people trapped in the door. Oh my God. Sure, it wasn't gory, but it was plenty graphic. You are sick.

I'd also like to put my Brandburg RP into perspective. I don't know how many of you remember the fire at the Great White concert in Rhode Island some years ago, but the short version is that the band was playing a club that was packed over capacity. Their pyrotechnics caught the roof of the club on fire and everyone stampeded what they thought was the only exit (there was a fire exit at the back of the club, but it wasn't well-marked and no one knew to go that way). They were jammed in the doorway, unable to escape, just like I described in my post. Of 462 people in the club, 100 died and 130 were seriously injured. I recently took a first aid/CPR class where they showed us a video that showed people trying to escape. It is seriously one of the most fucked-up, upsetting things I've ever seen in my life (and I'm not easily upset). So, if you want to see what I'm talking about, watch the video, but be warned: it's very graphic and you will probably not sleep well afterwards.

You haven't seen anything until you've seen the flesh stripped clean from a human body just seconds after a nuclear explosion. I can describe that in detail if you want me to, do you?

Post up in AC.

@ Servoth: In my post, I addressed Anton as "Prince Anton." I wasn't sure if this was appropriate because I wasn't sure if he was considered a prince. I'm not quite sure how succession works in a German-style empire as compared to the traditional European kingdom, or what the relevant titles would be. I can change it if it would be better to address him as "Mr. Krauss" or something different.

I'm not entirely sure myself. Anton is Heinz nephew, not his son, so I am unsure of how exactly it would work. But from what I can dig up, he'd be either referred to as a Prince (or the Germanic version, Prinz) or as a Imperial Vicar, a prince charge with ruling over part or all of the empire (seeing as that is what he is doing right now).

@ Radiation burns: I have seen it. It's awful.

@ Succession/titles: Well, in a traditional English/French/Bavarian line of succession (because those are the ones I know anything about), if the kaiser had no sons (or, on rare occasions, daughters) of his own, he would be the heir to the throne and would be referred to as a prince.

I just did a little bit of researching. I'm not quite sure how it worked in the German Empire, but in the Austro-Hungarian Empire (quite similar, really), the heir apparent is referred to as the "Archduke" (like Franz Ferdinand). Other men of Austro-Hungarian royalty were referred to as "dukes." If the archduke died before ascending to the throne, then whoever was determined to be next in line would become the new archduke. Luxembourg was (and still is today) similar, except they use "Grand Duke" instead of "Archduke."

Hope that helps.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

@Fan, by this point, none of the ships are over the camp, but to the side watching and waiting for dawn.

[Fanaglia]

Sorry fan, I've had a shit ton of work to do lately because of my treatments and homework piling up I barley have time to scratch my back.

It's OK. Believe me; I'm in no rush and I totally understand. Take your time.

You haven't seen anything until you've seen the flesh stripped clean from a human body just seconds after a nuclear explosion. I can describe that in detail if you want me to, do you?

How the fuck do you know what that looks like?

Saw it in a "shock-umentary" called "Philosophy of a Knife," which is about Unit 731 in the Imperial Japanese Army in WWII, which established a base in China from which they would kidnap villagers and do freaky experiments on them. They did a lot of experiments with radiation.

[Fanaglia]

@Fan, by this point, none of the ships are over the camp, but to the side watching and waiting for dawn.

If they're waiting for the sun to come up, they're going to be waiting until like March.

I'm confused -- so you're saying they dropped their guys off and went away to watch? The Gratian ships held position to provide easy extraction and covering fire. Why would you just go away to kind of hang out and watch? Plus, how was I supposed to know? You didn't say any of this until I put them in a difficult position.

[Sri Tschow]

@Fan
Well, that explains why I wasn't disturbed. I never looked at individual human faces, I just looked at the fire as a whole.

[Servoth]

You haven't seen anything until you've seen the flesh stripped clean from a human body just seconds after a nuclear explosion. I can describe that in detail if you want me to, do you?

How the fuck do you know what that looks like?

Some of the nuclear preparation videos from back during the Cold War can be fairly graphic, all it requires is a bit of research on the internet and you can get a pretty gruesome view of a nuclear explosion from ground zero or farther away. Or if you don't want to do that you can look up the Hiroshima bombing scene from the movie Barefoot Generation, which, despite being anime, is technically historically and scientifically accurate.

@ Succession/titles: Well, in a traditional English/French/Bavarian line of succession (because those are the ones I know anything about), if the kaiser had no sons (or, on rare occasions, daughters) of his own, he would be the heir to the throne and would be referred to as a prince.

I just did a little bit of researching. I'm not quite sure how it worked in the German Empire, but in the Austro-Hungarian Empire (quite similar, really), the heir apparent is referred to as the "Archduke" (like Franz Ferdinand). Other men of Austro-Hungarian royalty were referred to as "dukes." If the archduke died before ascending to the throne, then whoever was determined to be next in line would become the new archduke. Luxembourg was (and still is today) similar, except they use "Grand Duke" instead of "Archduke."

Hope that helps.

Well, for now, I guess we can use the title of Prince for now. It won't matter much in the future, Anton will die, and he won't be having any kids either. And don't worry, he will not die soon, he'll die in 1928/29 via car accident.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

@Fan, by this point, none of the ships are over the camp, but to the side watching and waiting for dawn.

If they're waiting for the sun to come up, they're going to be waiting until like March.

I'm confused -- so you're saying they dropped their guys off and went away to watch? The Gratian ships held position to provide easy extraction and covering fire. Why would you just go away to kind of hang out and watch? Plus, how was I supposed to know? You didn't say any of this until I put them in a difficult position.

Stage One-Transport Dirigibles drop paratroopers off. They leave, as they have no use. Some FTCs strafe the gratian parts of the camps.

Stage Two- The main host of the actual 'combat' or ships that can fight, go after the fleeing Gratians.

Stage Three- As the fight deteriorates, the FTCs fire slows(Assumed)

Stage Four- The combat ships pull off the fleeing Gratians. they watch the combat.

So yes, some ships would be over the camp, but not even close to all. And the main fleet didn't join because it is dark, no? At first, it would have been easy to differentiate. But as the fight got more commingled, who could tell who is who in the dark?

[Fanaglia]

If they're waiting for the sun to come up, they're going to be waiting until like March.

I'm confused -- so you're saying they dropped their guys off and went away to watch? The Gratian ships held position to provide easy extraction and covering fire. Why would you just go away to kind of hang out and watch? Plus, how was I supposed to know? You didn't say any of this until I put them in a difficult position.

Stage One-Transport Dirigibles drop paratroopers off. They leave, as they have no use. Some FTCs strafe the gratian parts of the camps.

Stage Two- The main host of the actual 'combat' or ships that can fight, go after the fleeing Gratians.

Stage Three- As the fight deteriorates, the FTCs fire slows(Assumed)

Stage Four- The combat ships pull off the fleeing Gratians. they watch the combat.

So yes, some ships would be over the camp, but not even close to all. And the main fleet didn't join because it is dark, no? At first, it would have been easy to differentiate. But as the fight got more commingled, who could tell who is who in the dark?

Well, what did they do once nearly everyone died? Are they still floating around five hours later with their thumbs up their asses?

Well, for now, I guess we can use the title of Prince for now. It won't matter much in the future, Anton will die, and he won't be having any kids either. And don't worry, he will not die soon, he'll die in 1928/29 via car accident.

Will he ever become Kaiser?

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Stage One-Transport Dirigibles drop paratroopers off. They leave, as they have no use. Some FTCs strafe the gratian parts of the camps.

Stage Two- The main host of the actual 'combat' or ships that can fight, go after the fleeing Gratians.

Stage Three- As the fight deteriorates, the FTCs fire slows(Assumed)

Stage Four- The combat ships pull off the fleeing Gratians. they watch the combat.

So yes, some ships would be over the camp, but not even close to all. And the main fleet didn't join because it is dark, no? At first, it would have been easy to differentiate. But as the fight got more commingled, who could tell who is who in the dark?

Well, what did they do once nearly everyone died? Are they still floating around five hours later with their thumbs up their asses?

Well, for now, I guess we can use the title of Prince for now. It won't matter much in the future, Anton will die, and he won't be having any kids either. And don't worry, he will not die soon, he'll die in 1928/29 via car accident.

Will he ever become Kaiser?

For about four hours, yes. How would they know? They can not see. When light began to appear, in what limited quantities it does, they would have left back for Onheath to resupply. Probably one or two FTCs left behind to see what happened.

[Inoroth]

@Inesea -

We know. I was making bad pun.

Oh... well *pats Inesea's head* you just keep working on that then, son. Maybe one day, you'll be punny like me.

I hope you don't claim that Inesean Catholicism also originated in Amplector.

Well, without Christianity, it probably never would have existed, would it... hmm? HMMMM?

RE: Brandburg - Guess there won't be too many Voerds to "take care of", will there?


@Fan -

1.) I'd like Islam to originate in Dal
2.) Judaism to originate in Gratia
3.) Churches not affiliated with the RCC (Orthodox, etc...) to have the nation name in front of them (i.e. Inesean Orthodox, Tschowan Orthodox, Averian Orthodox, etc...)
4.) Catholic Christianity originated in Roth like RL Rome

If that's at all feasible

My vote is for #5, 6, or, preferably, a combination of the two.

The only real difference between 5 and 6 is whether Dal remains one NPC or a bunch of localized NPC Kingdoms... just sayin

@Vjiay -

(in reference to Fan) But she is a hard worker so kudos must be given!

AMEN (The religious exclamation, not the Eastern Alliance)!

@Servoth - "Car accident" huh? Convenient way to get rid of dissidents I hear. I like the way you think, but I hope you never join the CIA or comparable intelligence organization.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

@Inesea -

We know. I was making bad pun.

Oh... well *pats Inesea's head* you just keep working on that then, son. Maybe one day, you'll be punny like me.

I hope you don't claim that Inesean Catholicism also originated in Amplector.

Well, without Christianity, it probably never would have existed, would it... hmm? HMMMM?

RE: Brandburg - Guess there won't be too many Voerds to "take care of", will there?


@Fan -

1.) I'd like Islam to originate in Dal
2.) Judaism to originate in Gratia
3.) Churches not affiliated with the RCC (Orthodox, etc...) to have the nation name in front of them (i.e. Inesean Orthodox, Tschowan Orthodox, Averian Orthodox, etc...)
4.) Catholic Christianity originated in Roth like RL Rome

If that's at all feasible

My vote is for #5, 6, or, preferably, a combination of the two.

The only real difference between 5 and 6 is whether Dal remains one NPC or a bunch of localized NPC Kingdoms... just sayin

@Vjiay -

(in reference to Fan) But she is a hard worker so kudos must be given!

AMEN (The religious exclamation, not the Eastern Alliance)!

@Servoth - "Car accident" huh? Convenient way to get rid of dissidents I hear. I like the way you think, but I hope you never join the CIA or comparable intelligence organization.

How comes your fall post?

[Inoroth]

Well, I have that one section done, like I did before, but I have been overly busy... will work on it tonight.

[Servoth]

Well, for now, I guess we can use the title of Prince for now. It won't matter much in the future, Anton will die, and he won't be having any kids either. And don't worry, he will not die soon, he'll die in 1928/29 via car accident.

Will he ever become Kaiser?

Oh, yes, he will after Heinz dies a few days before the 1910 war, Anton will secretly take the office of the Imperial Crown, as so not to bring down Servothian moral during said war. By the end of the war, Anton will give an empowering speech about Kaiser Heinz at said Kaiser's mock funeral, then he will get the crown officially. Then Anton gets to deal with the political problems of the '20s such as freedom marches and protests for more democratic processes. Then die in before mentioned car accident a few months into the downfall of the Servothian economy. Next the the Second Servothian Civil War, as an aging General Brandt and fellow military generals operate the country from a safe house in Imperia as the "legitimate" government. Then the Rise of Heinrich Alder, who names himself Fuehrer, and with that the beginning of the Servothian Golden Age of technological advancement and peace. Then the Age of the First National Servothian Republic! Yes, I've planned out my nation too much, but who cares!

@Servoth - "Car accident" huh? Convenient way to get rid of dissidents I hear. I like the way you think, but I hope you never join the CIA or comparable intelligence organization.

Why, yes, it is. The CIA, hmm? I could do that! Ya, I like that, I've got the skills, I'll add that to my list of possible things to do as a living. Thanks Ino!

[Inoroth]

@Servoth - Well, I do indeed blush at the thought that my humble one liner has completely altered your intended career path.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

You think you can sate my thirst with a SAW post? It would take millions of SAW posts to equal the quenching power of a Fall post!

[Servoth]

@Servoth - Well, I do indeed blush at the thought that my humble one liner has completely altered your intended career path.

Possible list of things to do as a living. That is what I said. But I can do so many things.

I could take up a job as a writer, or as a artist (drawings and such). Or maybe I could do music, I can play variants of the Clarinet, I can also write music. I could do singing, I have ability in Scat singing (it is a type of Jazz, look up Scatman John if you don't know what that is), but in all seriousness that is very unlikely considering my personality.

I could a more technical approach, I am taking a career path in the Engineering field, particularly I hope to do Aerospace Engineering. Or architecture as a possibility, though my antiquated liking of Art Deco, Art Noveau, and said older styles may not prove well with the modernistic style and society of today.

I could also do investigation such as the CIA, I am intelligent and quite sinister. But in all likely hood I will become an engineer.

[Inoroth]

@Inesea - Well, I can't post a reply to anyone, because I haven't had the fleet land yet... so the only thing I have to do it post some spy-ey things (and right now, I am scourinth the Fall for my only other Spy post, and I can't find it

EDIT- Found it!

"Buzzing Hornet" Tavern,
Streets of Beaufort, Capital of Voerdenland
23rd of December
7:39 pm

A furtive figure slithered into the inn, an island of light in the pitch black, bitterly freezing outside. As he entered, the cold winds blew in a flurry of snow on the other patrons. Non-chalantly taking a seat at the bar table, he ordered a scotch on the rocks. He was here for one thing and one thing only, a trait he shared with most of the others who frequented "The Hornet". Unlike them, however, his aim was not to become as drunk as possible, but to gain as much information as possible. Turning to a man who had had about five too many, he bought him his next drink and began a conversation, talking about how strange all the events of the past few months had been... revolutions, foreign invaders, and chaos everywhere. He then began asking him about what he thought of the various international reactions to the situation in Voerdenland. He finally, after purchasing the man another round, asked what the man thought of the Inorothian-Burgish relief expedition. The man slurred his response badly:

"Well (*hiccup*)... I dun't ri-rightly (*hiccup*) know wha-wha what to (*hiccup*) tink a' dem. I tink (*hiccup*) dey mean weeeeel, and I wuldn't (*hiccup*) mind em setting up here... for (*hiccup*) protections and the like. Now (*hiccup*), if you'll excuse meh, I'll be heading out."

The drunk abruptly turned, walked about half a step, and then fell flat on his face on the floor, joining about six others who had shared a similar experience. The spy, sipping his scotch contemplatively for a moment, had the information he needed. For about a week, he had been gauging the attitude in Beaufort, and he had gotten mostly a positive response. It seemed the city would be a perfect Forward Operating Base for the Inorothians and Burgish Expeditionary Forces. He would rendezvous with the fleet as soon as the were near enough... for now, he would gather some more information from another patron...

[Cyprum Xecuii]

@SAW: Ino posted, how delightful!

@Nozomu and tact: She's just mad because she had been forced by social norms to say something.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

@Inesea - Well, I can't post a reply to anyone, because I haven't had the fleet land yet... so the only thing I have to do it post some spy-ey things (and right now, I am scourinth the Fall for my only other Spy post, and I can't find it

*Cough* Protesters? *Cough*

[Mishmahig]

@SAW: Ino posted, how delightful!

@Nozomu and tact: She's just mad because she had been forced by social norms to say something.

She's going to be really mad by the end of this conference then. D:

[Inoroth]

@Cyprum - Yeah, Nozu's gonna have a tough time in the SAW Conference.

@Inesea - Yes, I know that, but I was getting inspiration from that post, as well as deciding to continue the story of the spy in question down in Port Covington... basically, I plan to have him link up with Vinchero and share what he knows, along with about four or five others that have been deployed out and about... one or two will have "not made it", either due to being killed in the fighting, or through some other means.

[Fanaglia]

For about four hours, yes. How would they know? They can not see. When light began to appear, in what limited quantities it does, they would have left back for Onheath to resupply. Probably one or two FTCs left behind to see what happened.

What do you mean by "in what limited quantities it does"? If you're talking about sunlight, I don't think you quite understand -- by March or February or maybe even late January, there will be a sort of twilight where the sun almost comes up, but never quite does. In December, a mere week after the winter solstice, there is no day, no twilight, no nothing. It's like midnight 24 hours a day. So, like I said, if they're waiting for the sun to come up, they'll be waiting well over a month or more.

Here's what irritates me: you said nothing about the ships that remained behind at Brandburg. I'll admit, it makes sense that a few would, but, given your posts, I could have just as easily believed that they all left in pursuit of the Gratian ships. You were not clear. I would not have written my post the way I did had you been so. Then you continued to RP, continuing to not acknowledge these ships left behind, even though you knew Pav was killing everyone. Also, your argument that they had no idea what was going on because it was dark out is bullshit because the whole compound, as Pav made very clear, is lit fairly well, at least in most places. This further reinforces my assumption that there was nobody there. Gratia has been gone for forever -- you had your opportunity to place them there and you failed to do so. So either all the ones who stayed behind were poisoned/engulfed in flame/crashed, they landed and saw everyone was dead and went home to report, or they all went chasing after the Gratians and left no one behind because now they can't be there once the VPG arrive.

@Fan -

1.) I'd like Islam to originate in Dal
2.) Judaism to originate in Gratia
3.) Churches not affiliated with the RCC (Orthodox, etc...) to have the nation name in front of them (i.e. Inesean Orthodox, Tschowan Orthodox, Averian Orthodox, etc...)
4.) Catholic Christianity originated in Roth like RL Rome

If that's at all feasible

1,2, and 4 all make sense. 3 would not be entirely inaccurate, tough perhaps you don't quite understand how it works in real life (I could be wrong, though). Basically, IRL, I'm Greek Orthodox, which is a sub-sect of Eastern Orthodox. All the other Orthodox churches (Russian, Antiochian, Oriental, etc.) answer to the Council in Constantinople (now called Istanbul, Turkey). The Roman Catholic Church once was a sub-sect of this church until the Great Schism; it was not called the "Roman Orthodox Church" because "Orthodox" basically means "still part of the original group." Until the Roman church broke away, there was nothing to be "orthodox" in respect to because there was just "the church." So, basically, by referring to themselves as "Eastern Orthodox," all the sub-sects under that umbrella are effectively calling themselves "not those crazy, rebellious heretics over there."

The different sub-sects were created as a way of more easily managing the spread of the Word across the known world and there was supposed to be one sub-sect for every region in the world. So the Church of Rome witnessed to the Roman Empire; the Church of Byzantium (now the Greek Orthodox Church) witnessed to Greece; the Russian Orthodox to Russia; the Oriental Orthodox to "The Orient"; and so-on. The patriarchs of each sub-sect meet in Istanbul, which is sort of like Vatican City to us. Since the Church was established in what was the Byzantine Empire at the time, the Greek Orthodox Church is sort of unofficially considered the "main" sub-sect of the Eastern Orthodox Church and is generally considered to be tasked with witnessing to the "diaspora," which, in essence, applies to anyone not already covered by a regional sub-sect of the Church. The Greek Orthodox Patriarch is also considered sort of the unofficial head of all the Eastern Orthodox sub-sects for this reason and is almost sort of like our pope.

There has occasionally been talk of adding an American Orthodox Church because we're clearly our own region and the only reason there wasn't one already is because they didn't know this landmass existed. What's interesting is that, if the Council was still whole, it would probably happen for this reason. The problem is, though, that, when they were established in the fourth century, one of their main rules was that any new decision had to be completely unanimous. Interestingly, the Church of Rome was never fully excommunicated and the Pope's vote would still be needed to make a decision as big as that. Unfortunately for everyone, though, the Pope is forbidden from voting because he (and all his predecessors dating back to the Schism) is (oddly politely) considered a heretic for all the changes the Roman Catholic Church has made over the centuries that are in conflict with Orthodox dogma. For him to be allowed to vote, he would have to bring the Roman church back into line with ours, and that's unlikely to happen. That's why the Roman Church has changed so much while the Orthodox Church is still basically the same as it was in the 11th century.

So, basically, the Eastern Orthodox predates the Rothian Church; otherwise it couldn't be "Orthodox." If you're basing it off of Rome, then there was the Church. Then you broke away to do your own thing. We're still doing ours. There were centuries of bad blood, but now we're mostly cool, especially among those who are not high-ranking members of either church. Oriental Orthodox or Tschowand Orthodox or whatever he wants to call it will by nature answer to the Orthodox Church (which does not necessarily have to be referred to as "Eastern"), which is either headquartered somewhere in Dal or in Carbur, eastern Fanaglia, which would also mean that either Dalish Orthodox or Fanaglian Orthodox would be the "prime" Orthodox faith, like Greek Orthodox is IRL.