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Minroz
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Postby Minroz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:43 pm

Let's wait for Hetland's reply.

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Postby Finorskia » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:44 pm

I won't let you take territory from a player who is already in the game for your own country. Work around it.

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Minroz
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Postby Minroz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:47 pm

Finorskia wrote:I won't let you take territory from a player who is already in the game for your own country. Work around it.

Wilco.

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Postby Finorskia » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:48 pm

MInroz wrote:
Finorskia wrote:I won't let you take territory from a player who is already in the game for your own country. Work around it.

Wilco.


Good. :lol:

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Postby Wolfenium » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:57 pm

Wolfenium wrote:
MInroz wrote:Righto.
It seems, I might as well make changes to my nation's background for this.

Here's my claims (Though I'm bit lazy to elaborate, but in fact just fill up the gaps), but changed from I last post:

China, Central Asia, Afghanistan, India, Taiwan, Turkey, Iran, Parts of Middle-East, South-East Asia, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Somalia, Kenya.

In case, you guys are wondering, My intention for Minroz is to be an Asian Hegemony, sort of a latter-day Mongolian Empire. Anyway, did you think my claims are big enough to be the largest state in the world?


Here's the issue. Hetland controls the entirety of Greater Mongolia. And you'll have a he'll of a casus belli to (re) annex him. I'll see what I can do later. Lesson calls.


Ahh... stupid auto-spellchecker...

Anyway, your total population would hit about 3 billion if you cover that much ground. Not that I won't allow this, but I don't expect Minroz to be very prosperous overall. Unless you're willing to take a severe hit in poverty rates and tech deficit, I don't think I'll let you occupy that large an area.
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Postby Finorskia » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:59 pm

Wolfenium wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
Here's the issue. Hetland controls the entirety of Greater Mongolia. And you'll have a he'll of a casus belli to (re) annex him. I'll see what I can do later. Lesson calls.


Ahh... stupid auto-spellchecker...

Anyway, your total population would hit about 3 billion if you cover that much ground. Not that I won't allow this, but I don't expect Minroz to be very prosperous overall. Unless you're willing to take a severe hit in poverty rates and tech deficit, I don't think I'll let you occupy that large an area.


I'm with Wolf on this as well. My nation is big, but its also made up of Canada. CANADA. A country whose landmass is not heavily populated.

Edit: Also, why Kenya?
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Postby Wolfenium » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:00 pm

Finorskia wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
Ahh... stupid auto-spellchecker...

Anyway, your total population would hit about 3 billion if you cover that much ground. Not that I won't allow this, but I don't expect Minroz to be very prosperous overall. Unless you're willing to take a severe hit in poverty rates and tech deficit, I don't think I'll let you occupy that large an area.


I'm with Wolf on this as well. My nation is big, but its also made up of Canada. CANADA. A country whose landmass is not heavily populated.

Edit: Also, why Kenya?


Zheng He?

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Postby Minroz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:02 pm

Wolfenium wrote:
Finorskia wrote:
I'm with Wolf on this as well. My nation is big, but its also made up of Canada. CANADA. A country whose landmass is not heavily populated.

Edit: Also, why Kenya?


Zheng He?


Self-explanatory.

I understand your point, Wolf, Fin. But we both aware the Red Shadows is sort of an AU, well, you can guess thats that. I did already mentions Minroz is one of the most technologically-advanced and modernised nation in the world.
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Postby Finorskia » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:05 pm

MInroz wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
Zhang He?


Self-explanatory. Fin, since the Red Shadows is sort of AU, well, you can guess thats that.


Don't know the term AU.

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Postby Wolfenium » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:07 pm

Finorskia wrote:
MInroz wrote:
Self-explanatory. Fin, since the Red Shadows is sort of AU, well, you can guess thats that.


Don't know the term AU.


Alternate universe. It's basically what NS is about.
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Postby Hetland 2 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:07 pm

Wolfenium wrote:
MInroz wrote:Righto.
It seems, I might as well make changes to my nation's background for this.

Here's my claims (Though I'm bit lazy to elaborate, but in fact just fill up the gaps), but changed from I last post:

China, Central Asia, Afghanistan, India, Taiwan, Turkey, Iran, Parts of Middle-East, South-East Asia, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Somalia, Kenya.

In case, you guys are wondering, My intention for Minroz is to be an Asian Hegemony, sort of a latter-day Mongolian Empire. Anyway, did you think my claims are big enough to be the largest state in the world?


Here's the issue. Hetland controls the entirety of Greater Mongolia. And you'll have a he'll of a casus belli to (re) annex him. I'll see what I can do later. Lesson calls.


Fuck no. Mongolia is my inhospitable shit country.

My Mongolia. Not yours.
Don't worry. I'm just a bridge troll that feeds on forum drama.
Harbinger of the RP endtimes.
we will send a air stare on libya if they don't stop their attack
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Mair glows brightly and transforms in a human, wearing a white cloak, "leave us"
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Minroz
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Postby Minroz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:13 pm

Hetland 2 wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
Here's the issue. Hetland controls the entirety of Greater Mongolia. And you'll have a he'll of a casus belli to (re) annex him. I'll see what I can do later. Lesson calls.


Fuck no. Mongolia is my inhospitable shit country.

My Mongolia. Not yours.


How about be my vassal? :3

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Postby Wolfenium » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:16 pm

MInroz wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
Zhang He?


Self-explanatory.

I understand your point, Wolf, Fin. But we both aware the Red Shadows is sort of an AU, well, you can guess thats that. I did already mentions Minroz is one of the most technologically-advanced and modernised nation in the world.


I can accept your nation as one of the most advanced. But a population this large means that a lot of citizens are going to be dirt poor. The cost of building the infrastructure needed to cover that much ground to your peasants will be enormous. I'd expect much of the wealth and tech to be isolated to your coastal mainland and cities. In Fin's case, much of his land also lacks infrastructure, though given that nearly half of it is uninhabited, that isn't necessary. You, on the other hand need to develop the infrastructure, but would lack the funds and resources to.
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Postby Finorskia » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:21 pm

Wolfenium wrote:
MInroz wrote:
Self-explanatory.

I understand your point, Wolf, Fin. But we both aware the Red Shadows is sort of an AU, well, you can guess thats that. I did already mentions Minroz is one of the most technologically-advanced and modernised nation in the world.


I can accept your nation as one of the most advanced. But a population this large means that a lot of citizens are going to be dirt poor. The cost of building the infrastructure needed to cover that much ground to your peasants will be enormous. I'd expect much of the wealth and tech to be isolated to your coastal mainland and cities. In Fin's case, much of his land also lacks infrastructure, though given that nearly half of it is uninhabited, that isn't necessary. You, on the other hand need to develop the infrastructure, but would lack the funds and resources to.


Our lack of infrastructure in many areas is why we developed practical jet VTOLS for the civilian market. We also drive a lot of SUVs. Our nation also has a large tax rate so we can easily pay for things. We have advance military technology because we have a large defense budget but small military force. Our nation prides education and science so we have a large amount of educated people who go into scientific field. Again more technology. Half our government budget goes into education.

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Postby Hetland 2 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:28 pm

MInroz wrote:
Hetland 2 wrote:
Fuck no. Mongolia is my inhospitable shit country.

My Mongolia. Not yours.


How about be my vassal? :3


Fu-fu-fu-fu-fuck you~
Don't worry. I'm just a bridge troll that feeds on forum drama.
Harbinger of the RP endtimes.
we will send a air stare on libya if they don't stop their attack
The krang countered the wave with something. And continued to try and take over the decepticon seeker.
Everybody! Can you stop saying that the cargo ship sinking we have done lately was a war crime. We were trying to economically destroy the UK.
Mair glows brightly and transforms in a human, wearing a white cloak, "leave us"
"FIRE IN THE HOE" he bellowed before triggering the explosive.
Julius Ceasar was a normal 14 year old who played Elder Tale in Russia.
We have already established, more powerful beings are not a proper weakness.

I miss Kare-bear :C

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Minroz
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Postby Minroz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:32 pm

Finorskia wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
I can accept your nation as one of the most advanced. But a population this large means that a lot of citizens are going to be dirt poor. The cost of building the infrastructure needed to cover that much ground to your peasants will be enormous. I'd expect much of the wealth and tech to be isolated to your coastal mainland and cities. In Fin's case, much of his land also lacks infrastructure, though given that nearly half of it is uninhabited, that isn't necessary. You, on the other hand need to develop the infrastructure, but would lack the funds and resources to.


Our lack of infrastructure in many areas is why we developed practical jet VTOLS for the civilian market. We also drive a lot of SUVs. Our nation also has a large tax rate so we can easily pay for things. We have advance military technology because we have a large defense budget but small military force. Our nation prides education and science so we have a large amount of educated people who go into scientific field. Again more technology. Half our government budget goes into education.


Right. if that's what've you guys said. In that case, only the Mainland, the cities and certain parts of the Empire will have much wealth and tech.

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Postby Wolfenium » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:35 pm

MInroz wrote:
Finorskia wrote:
Our lack of infrastructure in many areas is why we developed practical jet VTOLS for the civilian market. We also drive a lot of SUVs. Our nation also has a large tax rate so we can easily pay for things. We have advance military technology because we have a large defense budget but small military force. Our nation prides education and science so we have a large amount of educated people who go into scientific field. Again more technology. Half our government budget goes into education.


Right. if that's what've you guys said. In that case, only the Mainland, the cities and certain parts of the Empire will have much wealth and tech.


Now it's time for you and Het to work out another of Red Shadows' other quirks of history - how the great Qing lost their homeland to rogue nomads! ;)

EDIT: Anyway, maybe I should bring another villain in just to show how much Daniel messed up. Maybe...

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Postby Hetland 2 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:56 pm

Wolfenium wrote:
MInroz wrote:
Right. if that's what've you guys said. In that case, only the Mainland, the cities and certain parts of the Empire will have much wealth and tech.


Now it's time for you and Het to work out another of Red Shadows' other quirks of history - how the great Qing lost their homeland to rogue nomads! ;)

EDIT: Anyway, maybe I should bring another villain in just to show how much Daniel messed up. Maybe...

Image


More like they couldn't get the Hetlanders out from their homes.
Don't worry. I'm just a bridge troll that feeds on forum drama.
Harbinger of the RP endtimes.
we will send a air stare on libya if they don't stop their attack
The krang countered the wave with something. And continued to try and take over the decepticon seeker.
Everybody! Can you stop saying that the cargo ship sinking we have done lately was a war crime. We were trying to economically destroy the UK.
Mair glows brightly and transforms in a human, wearing a white cloak, "leave us"
"FIRE IN THE HOE" he bellowed before triggering the explosive.
Julius Ceasar was a normal 14 year old who played Elder Tale in Russia.
We have already established, more powerful beings are not a proper weakness.

I miss Kare-bear :C

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Minroz
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Postby Minroz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:17 pm

Hetland 2 wrote:
Wolfenium wrote:
Now it's time for you and Het to work out another of Red Shadows' other quirks of history - how the great Qing lost their homeland to rogue nomads! ;)

EDIT: Anyway, maybe I should bring another villain in just to show how much Daniel messed up. Maybe...

Image


More like they couldn't get the Hetlanders out from their homes.


Typing from my iPhone, like het said, we could say the Mongols were driven away from the homeland, similar to native americans, but only when the empire is its weakest.

Funny, I think this reminds me of Britannia's early history from code geass. Don't you see the resemblance. :p

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Postby Imota » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:18 am

I'm plotting, I swear...

Also, is there an updated map, because I'm sure I called Taiwan somewhere in there...

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Postby Wolfenium » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:35 am

Imota wrote:I'm plotting, I swear...

Also, is there an updated map, because I'm sure I called Taiwan somewhere in there...


Don't worry, you still have Taiwan
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Postby Firstaria » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:18 am

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Postby Finorskia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:34 am

What do you think I was doing with my last post.

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Postby Minroz » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:45 am

Fin, BTW, what about the countries on the map which is not occupy by our IC nations?

Shall we leave them as independent or faceless mooks to be killed by Neurois?
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Postby Mitakihara Town » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:48 am

MInroz wrote:Fin, BTW, what about the countries on the map which is not occupy by our IC nations?

Shall we leave them as independent or faceless mooks to be killed by Neurois?


They're NPC nations, and the term is Redshirt, not mooks. The Neuroi are the mooks, since they're the antagonists.
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