A Cold Era (OOC/Closed)

[New American Union]

Not in order of importance, but what comes off the the top of my head first.

1.It's a horrible idea to have Nuclear experiments in Antarctica. Not only the expense, but the sheer impracticality of it. Not to forget the environmental impact, but that doesn't matter.

2. Where is this deal between you an NAU? Don't see it on the IC

3. Didnt you read what I posted? Until 1951, there wasn't a nuclear reactor that could produce electricity. Also, atomic research takes years. It took the US 5-7 years to develop the Atomic Bomb.

4. How many troops do you have? (so I can amend the peace deal)

5. Be happy it isn't the Indian Parliament

When CCC comes back, he can decide this argument. Meanwhile, the Conference is technically over. Unless you want me to post about Murray, and any other pressing matters.

The Leader of the NAU mentioned it in his dialogue, but good luck finding that, cause he talks a lot and it all my posts look the same.

EDIT: That Illuminati guy has confirmed, he is not playing. His land is now on the reserved list.

[Zumreed]

Too bad. Okay, I'm going to post my final speech and a summary of the Treaty of Cairo, later tonight.

If Sjov will give me his troop numbers, I can edit his deal. You're literally the only one, Sjov. Even Treko agreed to his stuff.

Also I was bluffing. The Use of Sarin gas on a civilian population would probably result in the overthrow of the Emperor. Tis only a threat, good sir. I will ignore cannon your nuclear experiments and weapons (you don't even have a source of Uranium) but I acknowledge your deal with NAU.

Well, this war is over. And soon the Cold Era will begin.

[Sjovenia]

It's not impractical. It's quit literally possible. All you need is a huge building to hold the rector and all it's working components. Now like I said we are just starting to developers shitty ones that can power a small building. And between BORD and his little fights all the way till now it's been about 3 or 4 years since I've been researching and building the small crappy reactor. Oh and for Cold War I said I have nuclear know how. That means how to create it, run it, solve its problems. Soooooo yea I am going to be the first person with a working reactor. And you gotta start somewhere. I'm not planning on having a legit reactor that works amazing and can power a town until at least the 50s or 60s. I'm making nuclear missiles in the mid/late 60s and I went over I would not use them. Now of course this all costs money to build I have that money. Well you need a labor force...well duh I've said any times before that I have gulags. Prisoners.....who can repay what they did to society through labor. It's free labor and free scientific test subjects.....just the really really brutal and deadly prisoners. The deal was somewhere forever ago. Again I didn't say a nuclear bomb since we can't have nuclear bombs that we can attack with. They are just for show and intimidation. Uhm.....idk. And idk anything bout indian parliament. And yes let CCC decide and should he decide I pay war reparations I will pay but it will be just like yours. Minimal. See what your saying is I broke a 5 dollar item and you want me to pay 50 bucks for it. Soooo an even better example. 7 million dollars of damage and you want me to pay 50 million. Haha I don't think so.
And about uranium and plutonium? Did you know that you can make elements from other elements and also enrich them? Just saying. And it's as simple as adding an extra atom, doing some enrichment fusion for a few years. Maybe less. Also what makes you think I don't have a supplier? How do you think Chancetapher is getting weapons? They have a supplier as well. Need to edit his flag since i accidentally let him become an ex nation. But he's still in this war.

[Zumreed]

Who said anything about 50 million? I wanted 20 million. You did particpate in Alexandria, and you destroyed one town, which is one town too many.

Also how about 250,000 troops? That's as high as I'll go. Not my fault you decided to invest so much in defense. Maybe this is how you'll fall into UCSR's sphere of influence.

[Northern Anvils]

It's not impractical. It's quit literally possible. All you need is a huge building to hold the rector and all it's working components. Now like I said we are just starting to developers shitty ones that can power a small building. And between BORD and his little fights all the way till now it's been about 3 or 4 years since I've been researching and building the small crappy reactor. Oh and for Cold War I said I have nuclear know how. That means how to create it, run it, solve its problems. Soooooo yea I am going to be the first person with a working reactor. And you gotta start somewhere. I'm not planning on having a legit reactor that works amazing and can power a town until at least the 50s or 60s. I'm making nuclear missiles in the mid/late 60s and I went over I would not use them. Now of course this all costs money to build I have that money. Well you need a labor force...well duh I've said any times before that I have gulags. Prisoners.....who can repay what they did to society through labor. It's free labor and free scientific test subjects.....just the really really brutal and deadly prisoners. The deal was somewhere forever ago. Again I didn't say a nuclear bomb since we can't have nuclear bombs that we can attack with. They are just for show and intimidation. Uhm.....idk. And idk anything bout indian parliament. And yes let CCC decide and should he decide I pay war reparations I will pay but it will be just like yours. Minimal. See what your saying is I broke a 5 dollar item and you want me to pay 50 bucks for it. Soooo an even better example. 7 million dollars of damage and you want me to pay 50 million. Haha I don't think so.
And about uranium and plutonium? Did you know that you can make elements from other elements and also enrich them? Just saying. And it's as simple as adding an extra atom, doing some enrichment fusion for a few years. Maybe less. Also what makes you think I don't have a supplier? How do you think Chancetapher is getting weapons? They have a supplier as well. Need to edit his flag since i accidentally let him become an ex nation. But he's still in this war.

I might be able to add my small tidbit of knowledge regarding reactors that may justify Sjovenia's exploits. A reactor is a pretty simple thing, all you are doing is taking the heat from the sustained chain reaction and using it to boil water, heavy water most likely, which is in itself easy to make. Then you simply use that hot heavy water to boil uncontaminated water which turns a turbine which turns the generator. The problem with them is getting the right amount of material for a sustained reaction which could be found by rather reckless trial and error experiments.

As for materials for the reactor, the metal lead is the last product and the heaviest stable metal, which i'm sure Italy has some deposits of if i'm not mistaken. Lead ore, Galena, has in it trace amounts of the element Thorium, which can be enriched much the same way uranium can be, and can be used in a reactor. Unfortunately, thorium is not uranium and does not have near the instability of uranium's less stable isotopes. This might be what you made to power that building. Here's the real kicker though, after Sjovenia does some more research, he could stumble upon the concept of the breeder reactor. To the best of my knowledge, a breeder reactor is just an environment that is exceedingly rich in neutrons, and through some nuclear and sub-atomic particle reactions, some of the Thorium used as fuel in this neutron rich environment becomes U-235,
I might be mistaken, but if true, Sjovenia could theoretically build better more powerful reactors based off of this principle. Or you could just buy some plutonium like everybody else.

On a side note, are you the one that plays Chancetapher Sjovenia? I bet we have some bad blood between us.

[Treko]

Who said anything about 50 million? I wanted 20 million. You did particpate in Alexandria, and you destroyed one town, which is one town too many.

Also how about 250,000 troops? That's as high as I'll go. Not my fault you decided to invest so much in defense. Maybe this is how you'll fall into UCSR's sphere of influence.

@Zumreed we can just change the military to paramilitary, it just a loophole for our army.

[Bordurian]

It's not impractical. It's quit literally possible. All you need is a huge building to hold the rector and all it's working components. Now like I said we are just starting to developers shitty ones that can power a small building. And between BORD and his little fights all the way till now it's been about 3 or 4 years since I've been researching and building the small crappy reactor. Oh and for Cold War I said I have nuclear know how. That means how to create it, run it, solve its problems. Soooooo yea I am going to be the first person with a working reactor. And you gotta start somewhere. I'm not planning on having a legit reactor that works amazing and can power a town until at least the 50s or 60s. I'm making nuclear missiles in the mid/late 60s and I went over I would not use them. Now of course this all costs money to build I have that money. Well you need a labor force...well duh I've said any times before that I have gulags. Prisoners.....who can repay what they did to society through labor. It's free labor and free scientific test subjects.....just the really really brutal and deadly prisoners. The deal was somewhere forever ago. Again I didn't say a nuclear bomb since we can't have nuclear bombs that we can attack with. They are just for show and intimidation. Uhm.....idk. And idk anything bout indian parliament. And yes let CCC decide and should he decide I pay war reparations I will pay but it will be just like yours. Minimal. See what your saying is I broke a 5 dollar item and you want me to pay 50 bucks for it. Soooo an even better example. 7 million dollars of damage and you want me to pay 50 million. Haha I don't think so.
And about uranium and plutonium? Did you know that you can make elements from other elements and also enrich them? Just saying. And it's as simple as adding an extra atom, doing some enrichment fusion for a few years. Maybe less. Also what makes you think I don't have a supplier? How do you think Chancetapher is getting weapons? They have a supplier as well. Need to edit his flag since i accidentally let him become an ex nation. But he's still in this war.

I might be able to add my small tidbit of knowledge regarding reactors that may justify Sjovenia's exploits. A reactor is a pretty simple thing, all you are doing is taking the heat from the sustained chain reaction and using it to boil water, heavy water most likely, which is in itself easy to make. Then you simply use that hot heavy water to boil uncontaminated water which turns a turbine which turns the generator. The problem with them is getting the right amount of material for a sustained reaction which could be found by rather reckless trial and error experiments.

As for materials for the reactor, the metal lead is the last product and the heaviest stable metal, which i'm sure Italy has some deposits of if i'm not mistaken. Lead ore, Galena, has in it trace amounts of the element Thorium, which can be enriched much the same way uranium can be, and can be used in a reactor. Unfortunately, thorium is not uranium and does not have near the instability of uranium's less stable isotopes. This might be what you made to power that building. Here's the real kicker though, after Sjovenia does some more research, he could stumble upon the concept of the breeder reactor. To the best of my knowledge, a breeder reactor is just an environment that is exceedingly rich in neutrons, and through some nuclear and sub-atomic particle reactions, some of the Thorium used as fuel in this neutron rich environment becomes U-235,
I might be mistaken, but if true, Sjovenia could theoretically build better more powerful reactors based off of this principle. Or you could just buy some plutonium like everybody else.

On a side note, are you the one that plays Chancetapher Sjovenia? I bet we have some bad blood between us.

While rather 'simple' wouldn't it take years to develop this techonology from scratch?

[Zumreed]

Anvils, is it possible to create a Nuclear reactor in Antarctica as well as conduct nuclear experiments there? It's mostly ice correct?

[Northern Anvils]

I might be able to add my small tidbit of knowledge regarding reactors that may justify Sjovenia's exploits. A reactor is a pretty simple thing, all you are doing is taking the heat from the sustained chain reaction and using it to boil water, heavy water most likely, which is in itself easy to make. Then you simply use that hot heavy water to boil uncontaminated water which turns a turbine which turns the generator. The problem with them is getting the right amount of material for a sustained reaction which could be found by rather reckless trial and error experiments.

As for materials for the reactor, the metal lead is the last product and the heaviest stable metal, which i'm sure Italy has some deposits of if i'm not mistaken. Lead ore, Galena, has in it trace amounts of the element Thorium, which can be enriched much the same way uranium can be, and can be used in a reactor. Unfortunately, thorium is not uranium and does not have near the instability of uranium's less stable isotopes. This might be what you made to power that building. Here's the real kicker though, after Sjovenia does some more research, he could stumble upon the concept of the breeder reactor. To the best of my knowledge, a breeder reactor is just an environment that is exceedingly rich in neutrons, and through some nuclear and sub-atomic particle reactions, some of the Thorium used as fuel in this neutron rich environment becomes U-235,
I might be mistaken, but if true, Sjovenia could theoretically build better more powerful reactors based off of this principle. Or you could just buy some plutonium like everybody else.

On a side note, are you the one that plays Chancetapher Sjovenia? I bet we have some bad blood between us.

While rather 'simple' wouldn't it take years to develop this techonology from scratch?

Well, from his description of his brutal antarctic nuclear experiments, I don't think it would be a problem of getting the right critical mass of thorium to generate the necessary heat. This probably resulted in rather "improvised" reactor constructions that probably irradiated lots of people with neutron radiation escaping from them. Those "improvised" reactor constructions could logically be assumed to create a neutron rich environment, and when some underling of some mad Sjovenian scientist, no offense, did a mass spectroscopy reading or something, he could have found trace amounts of unstable uranium in the thorium sample that weren't there before. I figure since last I heard we were starting in the early 70s, he might have stumbled on to this already.

[Treko]

While rather 'simple' wouldn't it take years to develop this techonology from scratch?

Well, from his description of his brutal antarctic nuclear experiments, I don't think it would be a problem of getting the right critical mass of thorium to generate the necessary heat. This probably resulted in rather "improvised" reactor constructions that probably irradiated lots of people with neutron radiation escaping from them. Those "improvised" reactor constructions could logically be assumed to create a neutron rich environment, and when some underling of some mad Sjovenian scientist, no offense, did a mass spectroscopy reading or something, he could have found trace amounts of unstable uranium in the thorium sample that weren't there before. I figure since last I heard we were starting in the early 70s, he might have stumbled on to this already.

Mein gott. If you want me, I'll be helping Sjovenia making nuclear bombs.

[Northern Anvils]

Anvils, is it possible to create a Nuclear reactor in Antarctica as well as conduct nuclear experiments there? It's mostly ice correct?

To the best of my knowledge, it is covered in a mile or more of it. Is it plausible that he could have shipped the materials needed down there? If he did get it down there, then it's absolutely possible. The cost would definitely be high though.

[Bordurian]

While rather 'simple' wouldn't it take years to develop this techonology from scratch?

Well, from his description of his brutal antarctic nuclear experiments, I don't think it would be a problem of getting the right critical mass of thorium to generate the necessary heat. This probably resulted in rather "improvised" reactor constructions that probably irradiated lots of people with neutron radiation escaping from them. Those "improvised" reactor constructions could logically be assumed to create a neutron rich environment, and when some underling of some mad Sjovenian scientist, no offense, did a mass spectroscopy reading or something, he could have found trace amounts of unstable uranium in the thorium sample that weren't there before. I figure since last I heard we were starting in the early 70s, he might have stumbled on to this already.

So far, no uranium has been discovered in Antarctica. In Europe there is Uranium in the Ukraine, Poland, Germany, Russia, Slovakia and the Czech Republic.

[Treko]

Well, from his description of his brutal antarctic nuclear experiments, I don't think it would be a problem of getting the right critical mass of thorium to generate the necessary heat. This probably resulted in rather "improvised" reactor constructions that probably irradiated lots of people with neutron radiation escaping from them. Those "improvised" reactor constructions could logically be assumed to create a neutron rich environment, and when some underling of some mad Sjovenian scientist, no offense, did a mass spectroscopy reading or something, he could have found trace amounts of unstable uranium in the thorium sample that weren't there before. I figure since last I heard we were starting in the early 70s, he might have stumbled on to this already.

So far, no uranium has been discovered in Antarctica. In Europe there is Uranium in the Ukraine, Poland, Germany, Russia, Slovakia and the Czech Republic.

Well shit, I'm set for life. I'm in command of three of those countries and one is a pro-state.

[Sjovenia]

Anvils, is it possible to create a Nuclear reactor in Antarctica as well as conduct nuclear experiments there? It's mostly ice correct?

Anvils, is it possible to create a Nuclear reactor in Antarctica as well as conduct nuclear experiments there? It's mostly ice correct?

Did you not realize I have built a secret base so far? I have one town and one secrete base. Both are small and that's over the course of four years....so yea I didn't just go poof we have a town badda bing badda boom. Now what you mean about USCR influence? And yea I agree to the troop thing. And yes I did say it wasn't strong enough to sustain enough power to make enough energy to even enrich anything like a bomb....yet. And like I said later on I will have a better version made. This is just a crappy still working on it prototype. E sides even if it is mostly ice I posted about my ships having supplies and construction crews. Oh and the suez is blocked....hmmm air craft carrier placed past Spain. Flight from Easter Italy to the air craft carrier. From carrier to freight ship.....problem??? *troll face*. Oh and you can't say oh well what about radiaton sickness? Well we have been studying that as well. The Tito even visited some prisoners that were introduced to thecontaminated air. Of course the Tito wanted a better look and this how he died. When I posted him dying i listed symptoms of leukemia and radiation sickness. Now klaus is in Antarctica and he too will die soon from over exposure. I never said this stuff didn't come without a price of lives. But you can guarantee by the 50s we will have some hi tech (hi tech for the 50s atleast) liquidator suits.

[Zumreed]

My final offer to Sjovenia.

-20 Million in War reparations to the Empire of Zumreed for damages to the City of Alexandria, the town of Al-Habar (forgot the name of the place you invaded) and for military casualties
-Military restrictions for 40 years
-Under 250,000 troops
-Sjovenian navy is abolished
-Sjovenia is to surrender all overseas territories to the CCC
-Sjovenian treaty with the NAU is recognized
-Sjovenian settlements in South Pole recognized, but the settlement is forbidden from expanding it's boundaries (no colonizing the whole south pole)

[Sjovenia]

My final offer to Sjovenia.

-20 Million in War reparations to the Empire of Zumreed for damages to the City of Alexandria, the town of Al-Habar (forgot the name of the place you invaded) and for military casualties
-Military restrictions for 40 years
-Under 250,000 troops
-Sjovenian navy is abolished
-Sjovenia is to surrender all overseas territories to the CCC
-Sjovenian treaty with the NAU is recognized
-Sjovenian settlements in South Pole recognized, but the settlement is forbidden from expanding it's boundaries (no colonizing the whole south pole)

Hmmmm money is a little high but with all the money we took from the prisoners on death row that'll cover more than half. The rest the government shall pay for. As for colonizing good gosh no haha me and SSR are fine with what we got.

[Sjovenia]

Deal

[Zumreed]

Deal

WORLD WAR 2 IS OFFICIALLY OVER!

[Zumreed]

Or will be, ^We need to post our final speeches. I'll post my speech and treaty of cairo tonight.

[Bordurian]

Or will be, ^We need to post our final speeches. I'll post my speech and treaty of cairo tonight.

I'll do my closing statements tonight or tomorrow.

[Sjovenia]

Or will be, ^We need to post our final speeches. I'll post my speech and treaty of cairo tonight.

I'll do my closing statements tonight or tomorrow.

Tomorrow

[Bordurian]

Can't wait to get this started! Just out of curiosity, where's SK?

[Treko]

Can't wait to get this started! Just out of curiosity, where's SK?

With her fiance probably.

[Bordurian]

Can't wait to get this started! Just out of curiosity, where's SK?

With her fiance probably.

she hasn't been on for 19 days.

[Treko]

With her fiance probably.

she hasn't been on for 19 days.

Maybe she'll cease to exist.