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Postby Corporate Councils » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:04 pm

Union of Confederate Socialist Republics wrote:Any one else notice that Knock is an Ex-Nation now?


Yeah, he has been for a few days. I was hoping to keep that quiet for as long as possible so that people wouldn't suddenly be making claims on his land.

The other big two and I are making plans to make it all part of a story arc during the Cold War now.

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Postby Zumreed » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:14 pm

Corporate Councils wrote:
Union of Confederate Socialist Republics wrote:Any one else notice that Knock is an Ex-Nation now?


Yeah, he has been for a few days. I was hoping to keep that quiet for as long as possible so that people wouldn't suddenly be making claims on his land.

The other big two and I are making plans to make it all part of a story arc during the Cold War now.

Is he going to become an NPC, but just in India?
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Postby Shnercropolis » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:57 pm

Hey, I exist.
it is my firm belief that I should never have to justify my beliefs.

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Postby Zumreed » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:06 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:Hey, I exist.

Cool story bro.
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Postby New American Union » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:36 am

Knockercords territory will be put on the reserved list.
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Postby Zumreed » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:23 pm

New American Union wrote:Knockercords territory will be put on the reserved list.

I might "purchase" the small bits of land he hasin Arabia.
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Postby Northern Anvils » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:52 pm

All right, this is what i have for a story:

While Great Britain was treated rather well by the Murray Dynasty, many still thought of them as an occupying force, so the people of Britain brooded.

I'm going to assume the Murray Dynasty didn't collapse all at once, I imagine it akin to a dam breaking, a trickle at first, and then a catastrophic breakdown. So, while this was happening, two main factions composed of several smaller factions were waiting to see what happened. There were the British Nationalists who wanted an opportunity to rid the island of the Murrays and forge their own path, and the Murray Loyalists which were the remaining minor bloodlines of the family who were seeking to take Britain for themselves and/or keep it in what remained of the Dynasty after it was all sorted out. There was also the Queen, who was the last of a dying British royal family that had no legitimate heir, but she had no power since the Murray's stripped the power of the British throne upon conquest and left the British throne nothing but a fancy chair in a fancy house.

When it became apparent that the Dynasty was indeed falling apart, both parties, the Nationalists and Loyalists, both made up of several smaller factions that fought themselves as much as each other. Britain became consumed in civil strife, but not yet civil war, there was violence, some conventional style engagements, but it was mostly a guerrilla campaign of dozens of factions. Britain was set ablaze by this, and strife and violence touched every corner of Great Britain. Eventually the warring factions coalesced into the two larger factions mentioned before, the Loyalists who were firmly behind establishing a monarchy with the Murray bloodline and possible reunion with the rest of the Dynasty, and the Nationalists who had propped up a new royal family, the Royal House of Stewart, to rule Britain so it could finally regain it's lost independence and dignity.

After approximately 6 years of Civil War, which was totally economically devastating for Great Britain and her people, the Nationalists won out and subsequently executed many of the minor Murray bloodlines by firing squad, and exiling the rest to wherever would take them. The Royal House of Stewart took the throne in London and began the long process of rebuilding.

The first of these new Stewart monarchs was King Robert William Stewart. He was of the mind that no one cared what happened in Britain during this time, and Britain did not care what happened in the rest of the world. He set up a small efficient government, regulating only when necessary, and taxing very little, which stimulated the rebuilding effort to turn Britain into a somewhat prosperous state. The government and the military have become somewhat synonymous, with military officers serving as officials along side a somewhat elected government. The House of Lords and House of Commons still exist, it's just that a portion of there personnel is military.

Great Britain's current economy revolves around manufacturing. Mining is a part of the economy, but Britain's mineral resources, such as coal, iron, oil, and aluminum are heavily restricted on exports, that is they won't allow ore to be sold to be manufactured somewhere else. The government views much of Britain's remaining natural wealth as an extremely precious resource. Great Britain can however, manufacture goods at relatively competitive prices, the strongest manufacturing being that of weapons. These are typically sold to other countries who could not afford similarly manufactured goods by normal means in exchange for quantities of various resources and other trade agreements. There is also a thriving military contracting sector of the economy in which a military front company will send officers, some troops, and supplies to "consult" the client in military matters. Essentially a military consulting firm for the third world hell holes of the world, no offense.

King Robert died shortly before we begin the game, his daughter, Katherine Elizabeth Stewart, Princess of Wales is going to be crowned at the start of the game. She has a much less isolationist attitude than her father did, going so far as to invite foreign dignitaries to her coronation.

Any Problems?
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Postby Bordurian » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:37 pm

Zumreed wrote:
New American Union wrote:Knockercords territory will be put on the reserved list.

I might "purchase" the small bits of land he hasin Arabia.

I'm pretty sure I'll be rejected but I might 'buy' Beirut to use as a port.
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Postby Zumreed » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:14 pm

Bordurian wrote:
Zumreed wrote:I might "purchase" the small bits of land he hasin Arabia.

I'm pretty sure I'll be rejected but I might 'buy' Beirut to use as a port.
I own Beirut
. MY CITY.
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Postby Bordurian » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:18 pm

Zumreed wrote:
Bordurian wrote:I'm pretty sure I'll be rejected but I might 'buy' Beirut to use as a port.
I own Beirut
. MY CITY.

No. Lebanon was Knockercord's territory.
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Postby Zumreed » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:39 pm

Bordurian wrote:
Zumreed wrote: I own Beirut
. MY CITY.

No. Lebanon was Knockercord's territory.

Le map check.
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Postby Corporate Councils » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:47 pm

Bord has a good point, all maps that existed before SSR was in Syria show Lebanon to be Knock's territory.

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Postby Zumreed » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:20 pm

Corporate Councils wrote:Bord has a good point, all maps that existed before SSR was in Syria show Lebanon to be Knock's territory.
I might 'purchase' it from him then. It's probably not a good idea either if some outsider sets up near me and SSR.

But yeah Bord, either way it's not yours.
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Postby Zumreed » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:35 am

So.....who's paying war reparations?

These are the deals I'm going to offer Trek and Sjov.

Plan A: Surrender all conquered Territory (post WW1 borders, I'll give a link later) and military restrictions for 25 years

Plan B: Heavy War reparations to the EU nations, and military restrictions for 50 years

For Bord, I guess he can just surrender his colonies and be forbidden from owning colonies and overseas territories. Military restrictions for 5 years.
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Postby Bordurian » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:46 pm

Zumreed wrote:
Corporate Councils wrote:Bord has a good point, all maps that existed before SSR was in Syria show Lebanon to be Knock's territory.
I might 'purchase' it from him then. It's probably not a good idea either if some outsider sets up near me and SSR.

But yeah Bord, either way it's not yours.

Why is it your decision?
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Postby Zumreed » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:58 pm

Bordurian wrote:
Zumreed wrote: I might 'purchase' it from him then. It's probably not a good idea either if some outsider sets up near me and SSR.

But yeah Bord, either way it's not yours.

Why is it your decision?

Because I protest a Europan nation having a colony/overseas territory.
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Postby New American Union » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:09 pm

In order to acquire land from another player, he/she must give it to you, e.g war reparations, territorial change, sell it to you.
But both players must have an agreement on that.

But since Knock isn't here, I might just have SK be in charge of his land until further notice. And on a second note where has she been the last few weeks?
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Postby Zumreed » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:29 pm

OP must decide then. Oh and I liked the backstory, Anvils. In my factbook the British were critical to Zumreedian history, so expect friendly assistance from me.
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Postby Bordurian » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:10 pm

Zumreed wrote:So.....who's paying war reparations?

These are the deals I'm going to offer Trek and Sjov.

Plan A: Surrender all conquered Territory (post WW1 borders, I'll give a link later) and military restrictions for 25 years

Plan B: Heavy War reparations to the EU nations, and military restrictions for 50 years

For Bord, I guess he can just surrender his colonies and be forbidden from owning colonies and overseas territories. Military restrictions for 5 years.

would plan A included the territory conquered in the interbellum period?
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Postby Corporate Councils » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:18 pm

You can keep Finland if that's what you're asking.

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Postby Bordurian » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:23 pm

Corporate Councils wrote:You can keep Finland if that's what you're asking.

Excellent.
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Postby Bordurian » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:25 pm

Northern Anvils wrote:All right, this is what i have for a story:

While Great Britain was treated rather well by the Murray Dynasty, many still thought of them as an occupying force, so the people of Britain brooded.

I'm going to assume the Murray Dynasty didn't collapse all at once, I imagine it akin to a dam breaking, a trickle at first, and then a catastrophic breakdown. So, while this was happening, two main factions composed of several smaller factions were waiting to see what happened. There were the British Nationalists who wanted an opportunity to rid the island of the Murrays and forge their own path, and the Murray Loyalists which were the remaining minor bloodlines of the family who were seeking to take Britain for themselves and/or keep it in what remained of the Dynasty after it was all sorted out. There was also the Queen, who was the last of a dying British royal family that had no legitimate heir, but she had no power since the Murray's stripped the power of the British throne upon conquest and left the British throne nothing but a fancy chair in a fancy house.

When it became apparent that the Dynasty was indeed falling apart, both parties, the Nationalists and Loyalists, both made up of several smaller factions that fought themselves as much as each other. Britain became consumed in civil strife, but not yet civil war, there was violence, some conventional style engagements, but it was mostly a guerrilla campaign of dozens of factions. Britain was set ablaze by this, and strife and violence touched every corner of Great Britain. Eventually the warring factions coalesced into the two larger factions mentioned before, the Loyalists who were firmly behind establishing a monarchy with the Murray bloodline and possible reunion with the rest of the Dynasty, and the Nationalists who had propped up a new royal family, the Royal House of Stewart, to rule Britain so it could finally regain it's lost independence and dignity.

After approximately 6 years of Civil War, which was totally economically devastating for Great Britain and her people, the Nationalists won out and subsequently executed many of the minor Murray bloodlines by firing squad, and exiling the rest to wherever would take them. The Royal House of Stewart took the throne in London and began the long process of rebuilding.

The first of these new Stewart monarchs was King Robert William Stewart. He was of the mind that no one cared what happened in Britain during this time, and Britain did not care what happened in the rest of the world. He set up a small efficient government, regulating only when necessary, and taxing very little, which stimulated the rebuilding effort to turn Britain into a somewhat prosperous state. The government and the military have become somewhat synonymous, with military officers serving as officials along side a somewhat elected government. The House of Lords and House of Commons still exist, it's just that a portion of there personnel is military.

Great Britain's current economy revolves around manufacturing. Mining is a part of the economy, but Britain's mineral resources, such as coal, iron, oil, and aluminum are heavily restricted on exports, that is they won't allow ore to be sold to be manufactured somewhere else. The government views much of Britain's remaining natural wealth as an extremely precious resource. Great Britain can however, manufacture goods at relatively competitive prices, the strongest manufacturing being that of weapons. These are typically sold to other countries who could not afford similarly manufactured goods by normal means in exchange for quantities of various resources and other trade agreements. There is also a thriving military contracting sector of the economy in which a military front company will send officers, some troops, and supplies to "consult" the client in military matters. Essentially a military consulting firm for the third world hell holes of the world, no offense.

King Robert died shortly before we begin the game, his daughter, Katherine Elizabeth Stewart, Princess of Wales is going to be crowned at the start of the game. She has a much less isolationist attitude than her father did, going so far as to invite foreign dignitaries to her coronation.

Any Problems?

I think it's excellent. I truly hope our two nations will be friends. It's quite ironic really, we're both having a coronation at the start of the cold war.
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Postby Zumreed » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:46 pm

Bordurian wrote:
Corporate Councils wrote:You can keep Finland if that's what you're asking.

Excellent.

Bord, you just need to surrender all your colonies. And the Holy land. That's it, apart from the 5 years of military restrictions (which won't even be in the cUrrent IC)

You also can't conquer or own territory outside of Europe.
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Postby Bordurian » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:21 pm

Zumreed wrote:
Bordurian wrote:Excellent.

Bord, you just need to surrender all your colonies. And the Holy land. That's it, apart from the 5 years of military restrictions (which won't even be in the cUrrent IC)

You also can't conquer or own territory outside of Europe.

I could agree to the first part.
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Postby Zumreed » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:55 am

Storm over the Bay Area today, gonna stay inside. Will definitely post today.

Also made a Factbook of my nation's history geared towards this RP. Feel free to check it out.
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