A Lost Age [PT/FanT World] (Open)

[Redemption-America]

Redemption America, I was going to have a man approach Andaer and offer him a job: kill the Taviric character and Matmur, the man he's looking for. But did you have something else in mind?

I don't really have anyone in mind, but I doubt my flavor of Wood Elves would be real big on being a gun (err... bow) for hire. Unless Matmur and the Taviric guy were associated with daemons, then they need to be exterminated for the good of the realm.

[IshCong]

it's like if i were to suddenly invade anantar, then right before our armies clash, i claim that my yari ashigaru all suddenly have plate armor. ish'cong wouldn't care if i had "planned" to have the yari ashigaru have plate armor. it, for one, makes no sense for the sudden change, given a lack of rp. the second, and the more pressing issue, is that it's very bad form to suddenly upgrade in the midst of pvp rp. it's the rp equivalent of cheating, to upgrade your troops in such a manner.

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I would be substantially less than thrilled to suddenly find that, right before a major battle, your cheap farmer militia suddenly had plate armor.

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Hmm I was unaware this thread was in existence! It seems very interesting and I would love for Prinnia to be involved in a very limited manner.

I don't think it is logical for you to sail half-way around the world to train a bunch of Trolls.

The same with Ashaka and Xie. Shie's assistance to the Trolls does nothing but sever trade relations with Stetthia and Shie.

*Feels so left out.*
For the record, Anantar is uninvolved in the conflict as well. I was just looking for something more to do while I post updates to Matters of Perspective.

If I might make a suggestion though? Rather than just editing things like that, why not make a few posts about how your troops are getting new equipment and training to use it? Introduce all the same things, only a bit more gradually. It's a great opportunity for nation-development RP.
And maybe give involved parties a "head's up" before making major edits? That way they cannot complain about not having been aware of them. I mean, you said you were planning this for a while, so it's no big deal to just shoot off a quick TG or make an OOC post, right?


Would you be okay with that, Xie?

[The knights of kings]

Hmm I was unaware this thread was in existence! It seems very interesting and I would love for Prinnia to be involved in a very limited manner.

I don't think it is logical for you to sail half-way around the world to train a bunch of Trolls.

The same with Ashaka and Xie. Shie's assistance to the Trolls does nothing but sever trade relations with Stetthia and Shie.

Incorrect sir I have an army group in numer and if this is running on a parallel timeline their invasion. If its after than I already have a military colony granted by numer. So I'd just be crossing the channel.

[Great Houses of Xie]

Yes, I would be very happy to see posts introducing the new equipment and training regimens.

[Angle Empire]

Yes, I would be very happy to see posts introducing the new equipment and training regimens.

See my first post.

[Numer]

I don't think it is logical for you to sail half-way around the world to train a bunch of Trolls.

The same with Ashaka and Xie. Shie's assistance to the Trolls does nothing but sever trade relations with Stetthia and Shie.

Incorrect sir I have an army group in numer and if this is running on a parallel timeline their invasion. If its after than I already have a military colony granted by numer. So I'd just be crossing the channel.

Well technically you'll have the army but not the base quite yet; we still have to conquer that tip of land after I take Arkenland

[Great Houses of Xie]

you just edited some more, which is the cause of my complaint in the first place.

three of us have expressed the opinion that NEW posts should to be written to explain the changes, as we have pointed out in various ways that major edits in the middle of an rp is largely considered unacceptable.

i will, however, be fine with the edits on three conditions. the first is that you inform me of when your editing is done and stetthia's military is at your satisfaction. the second is that you will not edit any further and i will take screenshots to verify your sincerity. the third is that i then make my own round of edits.

[Angle Empire]

you just edited some more, which is the cause of my complaint in the first place.

three of us have expressed the opinion that NEW posts should to be written to explain the changes, as we have pointed out in various ways that major edits in the middle of an rp is largely considered unacceptable.

i will, however, be fine with the edits on three conditions. the first is that you inform me of when your editing is done and stetthia's military is at your satisfaction. the second is that you will not edit any further and i will take screenshots to verify your sincerity. the third is that i then make my own round of edits.

Whatever floats your boat. I just want to get this over with so i can finish making my new military. Let's face it, Hyrichastan's(RIP) military sucks. I wish to make a new military that's more in depth and will allow for better RPing.

[Great Houses of Xie]

is that supposed to be an agreement to my terms? if so, i'll sit by and wait while you revamp the military. as stated, after you declare it complete, i will hold you to it and expect any further changes to be properly rped. after which, i will revamp the troll military to account for the massive stetthian edits.

[Angle Empire]

is that supposed to be an agreement to my terms? if so, i'll sit by and wait while you revamp the military. as stated, after you declare it complete, i will hold you to it and expect any further changes to be properly rped. after which, i will revamp the troll military to account for the massive stetthian edits.

Let's just finish this Troll business first. The changs to ym miltiary weren't that extreme. Besides adding pikes(which i rp'd as stated before) and shields.

[Great Houses of Xie]

you edited them in. and changed a bunch of numbers around, added pikemen, changed the falcon warriors. i already listed all the changes you made, which drastically changed the composition and doctrines of the army.

as such, i feel that to keep things fair, i will edit the troll army to reflect the edits to the stetthians.

[Angle Empire]

you edited them in. and changed a bunch of numbers around, added pikemen, changed the falcon warriors. i already listed all the changes you made, which drastically changed the composition and doctrines of the army.

as such, i feel that to keep things fair, i will edit the troll army to reflect the edits to the stetthians.

OK, whatever.

[The knights of kings]

Incorrect sir I have an army group in numer and if this is running on a parallel timeline their invasion. If its after than I already have a military colony granted by numer. So I'd just be crossing the channel.

Well technically you'll have the army but not the base quite yet; we still have to conquer that tip of land after I take Arkenland

Indeed that is why I asked if it was on a parallel timeline or before or after. Lets just hope not too many people die making those bases

[Ea90]

I realise that I haven't been accepted yet, but I thought there's no harm in asking; would Almain rivet armour be acceptable in this world, or would it be too high-tech?

[The Gristollian Isles]

I realise that I haven't been accepted yet, but I thought there's no harm in asking; would Almain rivet armour be acceptable in this world, or would it be too high-tech?

My levies use almain rivets, so I would think not.

[The Gristollian Isles]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO-pX9PrzSI

This video is very good, and discusses plate armor in England. I think it is definitely worth a watch, and has helped me write about armor quite a bit in RPs. I'd recommend that anyone wondering about the history or evolution of armor go here.

[Dbrought]

So Gristollian, If you don't mind, I'm going to work in a post where my ships are already on their way. Since I'm in an alliance with the Prinnians, who as you can see are aggressively expanding to your north, I am of course going to favor his expansion, as territory he owns I will already, automatically have a way into. That being said, since Prinnia is in open war with you almost, I think I will be playing good cop to his bad cop, while I do minor things to make you less of a threat to the lands Prinnia is conquering, but still staying a world power.

Knights even though we are allies, I still want to make sure I stay a partner, rather than a vassal. Basically I think it is warranted that you and I talk Icly in the thread of how to proceed with the north shore of the new continent we are conquering, to make sure I get my cut. I also want to attach a division of my mages to collect the souls you are taking with your miasma and armies. Can't waste good souls.

In conclusion @Islands If you accept my terms, I will quell your rebellion, but also cause a little bit of chaos on my own to keep you too preoccupied to counter assault Prinnia, but strong enough to hold your strong cities, or I will quell you rebellion and then be the middle man to negotiate a treaty between you two. @KOK I am of course still on your side, but wont be left behind and will insist on making the other half of the north shore taken, and that you involve me.

[Ballycolumbia]

Shie-I finally have enough free time to do the thread about the port colony if you're still up for it. If so, do you want it a separate thread or just add it onto an existing one?

[Great Houses of Xie]

like i said earlier, just tack it onto the sail into the sunrise thread. if i recall correctly, your intended expansion could be of interest tothe other particpants of that thread.

[Great Houses of Xie]

Right, I have to clarify from Angle. I assume the number of oliphaunts includes the number of archers riding them? So, for example, at 20 men an oliphaunt, I'm looking at only 35 oliphaunts.

[The knights of kings]

@dbrought: I hear you we can have talks in my next post. Srry I'm writing on my phone so that last post was pretty much a rough draft I put down il edit it. But ya I was planning this to be a joint effort!

[Thrashia]

Numer, I'll have a reply up this weekend for you.

[Angle Empire]

Right, I have to clarify from Angle. I assume the number of oliphaunts includes the number of archers riding them? So, for example, at 20 men an oliphaunt, I'm looking at only 35 oliphaunts.

I am actually 3,000 men off on my unit counter. I will add 3k to archers for the Oliphaunts.

[IshCong]

Right, I have to clarify from Angle. I assume the number of oliphaunts includes the number of archers riding them? So, for example, at 20 men an oliphaunt, I'm looking at only 35 oliphaunts.

I am actually 3,000 men off on my unit counter. I will add 3k to archers for the Oliphaunts.

Is that a common ratio for your troops to have, 3,000 archers mounted on 200 Oliphaunts? Because that would work out to about 15 archers on each Oliphaunt, but if one looks at your overall force declaration, if you were to put 15 archers on each of your 5,000 Oliphaunts, you'd have a total of 75,000 archers. That's 10,000 more archers than you claim in your force declaration, without even considering foot archers, so I'm guessing that's not what you had in mind originally? =T
If one were to put 13 archers on each one of your 5,000 Oliphaunts, that would equal the 65,000 archers in your overall force declaration, but only if you don't use any foot archers...

Also, and I just realized this, you have claimed 5,000 Oliphaunts. I had originally thought that either those 200-700 were basically all the Oliphaunts you had, and/or that 200-700 figures accounted for the soldiers riding them. Even then, 200-700 Oliphaunts seemed kinda excessive to me, but not worth making a big deal out of. But 5,000? That seems, well, a bit much. It's not like even war elephants were very common IRL, and Oliphaunts would seem likely to be even less common than war elephants to me.
And then numbers of the beasts aside, the sheer logistical strain of supporting that many Oliphaunts, with the amount they must consume, must be horrendous. I could see that sort of mass of Oliphaunts consuming so much as to devastate local wildlife, especially if there are yet more Oliphaunts in the wild in your lands.

[Angle Empire]

I am actually 3,000 men off on my unit counter. I will add 3k to archers for the Oliphaunts.

Is that a common ratio for your troops to have, 3,000 archers mounted on 200 Oliphaunts? Because that would work out to about 15 archers on each Oliphaunt, but if one looks at your overall force declaration, if you were to put 15 archers on each of your 5,000 Oliphaunts, you'd have a total of 75,000 archers. That's 10,000 more archers than you claim in your force declaration, without even considering foot archers, so I'm guessing that's not what you had in mind originally? =T
If one were to put 13 archers on each one of your 5,000 Oliphaunts, that would equal the 65,000 archers in your overall force declaration, but only if you don't use any foot archers...

Also, and I just realized this, you have claimed 5,000 Oliphaunts. I had originally thought that either those 200-700 were basically all the Oliphaunts you had, and/or that 200-700 figures accounted for the soldiers riding them. Even then, 200-700 Oliphaunts seemed kinda excessive to me, but not worth making a big deal out of. But 5,000? That seems, well, a bit much. It's not like even war elephants were very common IRL, and Oliphaunts would seem likely to be even less common than war elephants to me.
And then numbers of the beasts aside, the sheer logistical strain of supporting that many Oliphaunts, with the amount they must consume, must be horrendous. I could see that sort of mass of Oliphaunts consuming so much as to devastate local wildlife, especially if there are yet more Oliphaunts in the wild in your lands.

Like, dude i figured that out awhile ago. I only have 200 now. I even said that it is illogical to have that many.