Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v. 2.0 -- CLOSED)

[Inoroth]

@ Sapienta - Well, know that Inoroth will be looking to make a better relationship with the new government you are creating than with the old one... We were basically set to be invaded by him and Dal... and I want to avoid that if possible with the new regime.

[Pavlostani]

@Inesea - Well, you might as well have given him a name like "doctor" or "master" or some rubbish like that!

@Pavlo - Yes, that's one thing. But what I don't get is why no one wants to let Sveland have a new RPer... I really need someone there!

@New Sapienta - I want you to have Svealand... And I'm not sure that he was a monarchy... more of a loose confederation of tribes.

Then I shall be a revolution to unite and centralize Svealand!

Alright, let's look at the tallies
Ino: Yes.
Fan: No.
Wirbel: Yes.

Looks like a majority dude.

[Cygnar]

@Inesea - Well, you might as well have given him a name like "doctor" or "master" or some rubbish like that!

@Pavlo - Yes, that's one thing. But what I don't get is why no one wants to let Sveland have a new RPer... I really need someone there!

@New Sapienta - I want you to have Svealand... And I'm not sure that he was a monarchy... more of a loose confederation of tribes.

Then I shall be a revolution to unite and centralize Svealand!

Could you post a sample RP post? If you did, please repost it because i didnt see it.

[Mishmahig]

@Mish - Well, looks like there's no way we're going to fix this. Harks death is going to be the nail in the coffin for conference.

@Inesea - RE your SAW Post - Names are nice... What's the Admiral's name?

Actually, I am going to have a sappy speech abut how hark was a Father of Modern Diplomacy and is last wish was for peace.

Admiral _____

Nice, but unlikely to work---one speech will not resolve all the differences between the members of the conference.

Anyway, working on post for SAW.

[Inoroth]

@Pavlo -

Alright, let's look at the tallies
Ino: Yes.
Fan: No.
Wirbel: Yes.

Looks like a majority dude.

But, there are a lot of others yet to vote (and you haven't tallied everyone in your list either... not by a long shot!)

@New Sapienta -

Could you post a sample RP post? If you did, please repost it because i didnt see it.

How about starting your revolution RP as a sample? I'll help you if you have any questions, so please post the link to the thread when you create it.

@Mish - Go get 'em!

[Pavlostani]

@Pavlo -

Alright, let's look at the tallies
Ino: Yes.
Fan: No.
Wirbel: Yes.

Looks like a majority dude.

But, there are a lot of others yet to vote (and you haven't tallied everyone in your list either... not by a long shot!)

@New Sapienta -

Could you post a sample RP post? If you did, please repost it because i didnt see it.

How about starting your revolution RP as a sample? I'll help you if you have any questions, so please post the link to the thread when you create it.

@Mish - Go get 'em!

Dammit, faulty info from Inesea again! He told me that you, Fan and Wirbel vote on who gets in.

[Fanaglia]

RE: all the stuff you said on closed region - I understand that, but Svealand was not on anyone's colonial ambition's list... and frankly I need some sort of power there, otherwise I have no IC justification not to fill the vacuum. If he wanted Desaltonia or Oulen, then I vote no. If he wanted to make a new nation, I'd say no. But he wants to take over an existing nation that was just important enough to be missed without actually contributing anything... the perfect place for a new Rper.

Again, I understand we're closed for colonization, but I don't feel this move interferes at all with our plans and it helps me out immensly.

I could learn to live with breaking the rule again, just this once and only for this reason, and ONLY if he submits a decent RP sample first and has a reasonably-sized claim in Former Svealand.

Now, if only we can get Sri, et al, to STOP INVITING PEOPLE.

@Mish - Revolutions in NPC Nations? NPC Nations becoming powerful enough to actually be on our RADAR? But other than that, I've got nothing...

@ Mish: This is largely what I had in mind. Either one of these options, or maybe a number of disparate tribes or nations banding together to form a confederation, sort of like the Iroquois. Any of these could also be easily prompted by the perceived threat of imperialism, whether in public backlash against an ineffective regime, or the idea of safety in numbers.

Wonderful SAW post as always Inoroth. I do wonder why you say 'Cyprum' in the post as if the country were a person though.

And, I see the Cyprumese "observers" are mostly gone... for the better, I'd say, for they were more a bother than anything else. Ice Cream in wartime at a peace conference? How undignified! It wouldn't be tried or tolerated by anyone else, but it seemed the most normal thing in the world to them. If Cyprum can't afford to send a proper diplomat to their ally's conference on a war they're involved in, then... well, I don't know what... but certainly nothing good I'll wager!

I can understand saying "If the Cyprumese" like you always do. I'm just not sure if that works. Not being a Grammar Nazi since I'm probably wrong on this, I merely wonder if saying that is the correct way to...'phrase it' or what have you. Of course the English teacher shall strike again and expose the truth!

Then again, you could just tell me your reasoning for the why you said that...either way is fine.


@Mish: Really? I thought the conference was going better than what I expected. At least a diplomat didn't kill another diplomat.

Actually, Servoth was correct. He could have just as easily said "If America can't..." instead of "the Americans."

I will make a new app for Svealand a regime change that wants to modernize Svealand. If that is rejected then I will wait for the colonization thread to end and change the history of my old app to become an isolated African nation in Desaltonia.

Colonization thread won't be even starting for a possibly long time. As long you've posted here you can keep up with whatever updates we make.

A "long time" in Cyprum time. That's kind of like dog years. Or more like housefly years.

[New Sapienta]

@Pavlo -

Alright, let's look at the tallies
Ino: Yes.
Fan: No.
Wirbel: Yes.

Looks like a majority dude.

But, there are a lot of others yet to vote (and you haven't tallied everyone in your list either... not by a long shot!)

@New Sapienta -

Could you post a sample RP post? If you did, please repost it because i didnt see it.

How about starting your revolution RP as a sample? I'll help you if you have any questions, so please post the link to the thread when you create it.

@Mish - Go get 'em!

Wait I should start a thread on it?(Like the ones on the main page) or just an RP example of the revolution?

Also for the other guy my old app is a few pages back.

[Cygnar]

@Pavlo -

But, there are a lot of others yet to vote (and you haven't tallied everyone in your list either... not by a long shot!)

@New Sapienta -

How about starting your revolution RP as a sample? I'll help you if you have any questions, so please post the link to the thread when you create it.

@Mish - Go get 'em!

Wait I should start a thread on it?(Like the ones on the main page) or just an RP example of the revolution?

Also for the other guy my old app is a few pages back.

Just link a Roleplay post to here so we can see if it is good or not

[New Sapienta]

Here.

12th of March, the Year 1402 in the name of our lord
The Republic of Novgorod, Novgorod

Grand Prince Vladamir looked down on his grand city. This serene rpeublic had isolated itself from most of the wetern affairs, and only period of serious violence was the defience of the Mongols. Now it seemed, was Novgorod's isolationism to end. Now, trade would not be enough to stasify the dreams of the Republic, and the city would cast its eyes to the West, East, and South.

On his desk, delivered by his Steward, were alliance offer from not one, not two, but three seperate nations. From the Purssians to the West, declaring Russian solidarty and friendship, and perhaps even a Baltic trade order.

Another was from an Asiatic Empire to the south, past Mucowy, centered primarily in Crimea. A tolerant nation, they had enjoyed the prosperity of trading with everyone near them regardless of religioon, and a place where scholars of all religion could come and study in peace. The advantages of tolerance were appealing to Vladamir, and he would most certaintly look into this aspect of the Khitans.

The final alliance offer was from the Kingdom of Poland, who most likely wishes good relations due to the isolation of their new religous sect, forbidding the execution of non-Catholics most likely to appeal to the Orthodox and Muslim nations, at the cost of tsupport of many a Catholic nation.

An alliance with any one of the three could cause a spiral into war. Prussia seems to be eyeing Minsk, an ally of Poland, meaning an alliance with them would bring the wrath of the Polish Alliance.

However, an alliance with Poland would most certaintly mean hostile relations with Prussia and end in a war with them, something Vladamir did not particulalry want at the time.

An alliance with the Khitan Empire coud lead to a war with Minsk, and therefore a war with Poland. However, Vladamir was sure he could convine the Khitans to direct their gaze to the Golden Horde remnants in the East instead. A war with them could be very proiftable for Novgord, meaning an alliance with the Khitans could be adventageous.

Vladamir decided to consult hiis Spymaster, a true master of Intrigue. A childhood companion, Andrei Nikolaevich. First a servant for his father, Andrei was soon to become Vladamir's closest friend, keepingmany secrets children were prone to keep.

Not being a noble, Andrei could not hold an offical county or duchy, therefore, given Andrei's interest in the shadows and intrigue, Vladamir promoted him to Spymaster.

Andrei has been the man behind many a bribery and many a slit throat, to the point his name is feared throughout Novgorod.

As Andrei walked in, Vladamir showed Andrei the alliance offers.

Andrei read them over, tand then replied "Well, it appears the swords of Novgorod are highly sought after."

Vladamir replied "'I agree, but war is ineveatble with any one of these alliances."

"I concur, therefore it is best to postpone an official alliance, and first encourage good relations with all of the them. I would also adise sending diplomats to all the meeting, Reval, Poland, and Crimea. We will wait until hostiilities ineveetably break out, then ally with the winner."

"A very good idea. Servant! Fetch me ink and parchment."

From The Grand Prince Vladamir Rurikovich the First, Leader of the Most Serene Republic of Novgorod
To: The Kingdom of Poland and his highness King Casimir

I shall indeed send a diplomat to discuss relation between our two sovreign nations. An alliance is premature, but we can certaintly work to strengthen our relations. I have no current desire to risk hostilities with Poland or Minsk as of this date, however, we wish for no hostilities with Prussia either, so my diplomat shall figure the rest at the meetingin poland.

Sincerely,
His Majesty Grand Prince Vladamir Rurikovich

From: The Grand Prince Vladamir Rurikovich the First, Leader of the Most Serene Republic of Novgorod
To: His Higness the Grand Gurkhan of the Khitan Empire

I am certaintly interested in your proposal. Your tolerance of heretics and pagans is peculiar, and I will most certaintly like to learn the benifits of such a strategy. As such, I will no doubt send a diplomatic envoy to your grand Empire to discuss foreign relation. Although we have no current desire of hostilities with Minsk, we can discuss further details of an alliance at the meeting. I am sure my diplomat can outline the detail of a "Republic" for you as well to encourage mutual understanding.

Sincerly,
His Majesty Grand Prince Vladamir Rurikovich.

To: The Mighty Kingdom of Prussia and His Higness King King Hadraed V Rurikovich
From:The Grand Prince Vladamir Rurikovich the First, Leader of the Most Serene Republic of Novgorod

I applaud yyour suggestion of Russian solidarity and unity, and would encourage healthy trade relations between our two entities. While a Grand Alliance may be slightly premature, I would most certaintly enjoy sending an envoy to discuss relations in Reval.
Sincerely,
His Majesty Grand Prince Vladamir Rurikovich.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Pav, Pav, Pav

I said Fan and Wirbel had "Special" votes. They hold more sway than, say, mine or yours.

[Inoroth]

@Pavlo - Why on earth would we three be the council of three that determines world rules (though I am flattered that I made it to the top three)? I think Inesea is a little misinformed... actually a lot misinformed! Either that, or you are!

@Fan -

Actually, Servoth was correct. He could have just as easily said "If America can't..." instead of "the Americans".

Well, I thought it worked... why did you guys confuse me Mish and Cyprum

I could learn to live with breaking the rule again, just this once and only for this reason, and ONLY if he submits a decent RP sample first and has a reasonably-sized claim in Former Svealand.

YAAAAAAAAAY! I might have a new friend to the North!

@Sapienta - You can start a new thread... I'd prefer an actual thread over a paragraph or two here in the OOC... Sri did a revolution thread a while back (it's still in the list of active RP's), and though I don't recommend finishing it in six posts over two days like he did, that's the only one we've got to go off of.

Cygnar's idea of a former RP is not bad either!

@Inesea - Do I have a "Special Vote" too?

[New Sapienta]

@Sapienta - You can start a new thread... I'd prefer an actual thread over a paragraph or two here in the OOC... Sri did a revolution thread a while back (it's still in the list of active RP's), and though I don't recommend finishing it in six posts over two days like he did, that's the only one we've got to go off of.

Cygnar's idea of a former RP is not bad either!

I'll start a thread, and if its not want people want we can just let it sink to the bottom of the deep pits of the forum.

I am going to post my (normal, without background)app first though.

[Sri Tschow]

Rosswood is mine. I claim it in the colonial RP which hasn't started and chances are never will.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

@Pavlo - Why on earth would we three be the council of three that determines world rules (though I am flattered that I made it to the top three)? I think Inesea is a little misinformed... actually a lot misinformed! Either that, or you are!

@Fan -

Actually, Servoth was correct. He could have just as easily said "If America can't..." instead of "the Americans".

Well, I thought it worked... why did you guys confuse me Mish and Cyprum

I could learn to live with breaking the rule again, just this once and only for this reason, and ONLY if he submits a decent RP sample first and has a reasonably-sized claim in Former Svealand.

YAAAAAAAAAY! I might have a new friend to the North!

@Sapienta - You can start a new thread... I'd prefer an actual thread over a paragraph or two here in the OOC... Sri did a revolution thread a while back (it's still in the list of active RP's), and though I don't recommend finishing it in six posts over two days like he did, that's the only one we've got to go off of.

Cygnar's idea of a former RP is not bad either!

@Inesea - Do I have a "Special Vote" too?

No. No special vote for you. My EXACT words to pav were-

fan and wirbel are the ops. They hold the most sway in admissions to the region. But we alls votes

Then, several pages of-

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[Cygnar]

Rosswood is mine. I claim it in the colonial RP which hasn't started and chances are never will.

Not all of rosswood... I want the land piece of it...

[New Sapienta]

Nation Name: The Republic of Svealand(Post-Revolution)
Government type: Democracy
Name and title of Nation Leader: Amold Fenzen
Official language(s) (de jure):Svealish?
Commonly spoken language(s) (de facto):Svealish, English, German(I'm unaware of the languages so if you can inform me rather than me guess that would be cool)
Est. land area:

Est. population: Whatever Sveland's old population was

Tell me if Sveland is smaller.

[Sri Tschow]

@Inoroth
King Amano is thirty-two at the time of the conference. He's not that young...

[Mishmahig]

Rosswood is mine. I claim it in the colonial RP which hasn't started and chances are never will.

Please, please, please, let's not start the whole "I claim this!" thing on the OOC.

Edit: Also, post up on SAW.

[New Sapienta]

@ Sapienta - Well, know that Inoroth will be looking to make a better relationship with the new government you are creating than with the old one... We were basically set to be invaded by him and Dal... and I want to avoid that if possible with the new regime.

would be too unorganized to invade someone right after a regime change.

[The Holy Dominion of Inesea]

Rosswood is mine. I claim it in the colonial RP which hasn't started and chances are never will.

Please, please, please, let's not start the whole "I claim this!" thing on the OOC.

Edit: Also, post up on SAW.

I like it. Mind you Tupak is not, nor was in the best frame of mind at that moment.

[Mishmahig]

Please, please, please, let's not start the whole "I claim this!" thing on the OOC.

Edit: Also, post up on SAW.

I like it. Mind you Tupak is not, nor was in the best frame of mind at that moment.

OOC, I know

But IC, they wouldn't know he was Hark's son.

[Inoroth]

@New Sapiena - Do that, and please post up a link

Also, Inoroth would be more than willing to aid in the revolution of a group more friendly to our people and government - just invite me

@Sri - Well, it's all relative. I think Vinchero is forty something... and honestly, I was going on the age he was acting.

Nice new app. Also, maybe you might want to claim more land bordering Inoroth... just to make interactions between us all the more likely.

@Inesea - Da crap? Hark was the father of Tupak?

[New Sapienta]

When would the revolution take place?

[Pavlostani]

Pav, Pav, Pav

I said Fan and Wirbel had "Special" votes. They hold more sway than, say, mine or yours.

No. You said that Ino, Fan and Wirbel decide. You never said Wirbel and Fan had special sway. I remember this. Stop revising history.

fan and wirbel are the ops. They hold the most sway in admissions to the region. But we alls votes

You never said this. I'm almost sure of it. When Vasts was trying to apply, you told me that Ino, Fan and Wirbel would vote on whether she got in.