The League of Imperial Nations (MT/PMT)

[Alkoul]

We have a war, well a conflict in action, granted it's slowed a bit as life has interfered. However, we have plenty of members who I suppose could be directed elsewhere if it came to that, and if the League agrees that the CoS is worth investing in.

Imperialism and anti-imperialism allying is that what you said?

[Tagmatium]

We have a war, well a conflict in action, granted it's slowed a bit as life has interfered. However, we have plenty of members who I suppose could be directed elsewhere if it came to that, and if the League agrees that the CoS is worth investing in.

Imperialism and anti-imperialism allying is that what you said?

Eh, "imperial".

We've never really defined what is meant by that. Ask a citizen of Tagmatium, and they'd reply that it is due to the fact that most of the nations within it are empires. We're actually a remarkably peaceful alliance.

After all, the "anti-imperialist" group are the ones threatening us. Attempting to force their ways upon us.

But, fuck it.

[The Batorys]

Indeed, for being Imperial, we don't pick many fights, really. Instead, we look down our noses at everyone else and chuckle at their expense.

I mean, it's funny, we're at war with the UFA, but they started that one. And now we have this CoS acting rather belligerent towards us. Or wanting to, rather. It's quite amusing. Everybody wants to fight the empires.

[Alkoul]

We have a war, well a conflict in action, granted it's slowed a bit as life has interfered. However, we have plenty of members who I suppose could be directed elsewhere if it came to that, and if the League agrees that the CoS is worth investing in.

Imperialism and anti-imperialism allying is that what you said?

op, forgot to add the final touch for absolute confusion

Everybody wants to fight the empires.

I wouldn't consider Alkoul an empire, over the past 50 years we've only gained two colonies, adding 65 million people to our Kingdom. We're not fully some land grabbing nation....yet.

[Tagmatium]

Imperialism and anti-imperialism allying is that what you said?

op, forgot to add the final touch for absolute confusion

Everybody wants to fight the empires.

I wouldn't consider Alkoul an empire, over the past 50 years we've only gained two colonies, adding 65 million people to our Kingdom. We're not fully some land grabbing nation....yet.

Hey, isn't an empire a nation that is ruled by an emperor?

Painting all imperial nations as "imperialist" is a blatant falsehood.

[Finium]

op, forgot to add the final touch for absolute confusion


I wouldn't consider Alkoul an empire, over the past 50 years we've only gained two colonies, adding 65 million people to our Kingdom. We're not fully some land grabbing nation....yet.

Hey, isn't an empire a nation that is ruled by an emperor?

Painting all imperial nations as "imperialist" is a blatant falsehood.

If you're really cool then you have both

[The Batorys]

To some degree. The Batory Empire doesn't really have colonies, though, for example. It just tends to very slowly acquire new provinces every now and then.

[Yohannes]

OoC: We are an empire...

[Alkoul]

OoC: We are an empire...

not really an innocent question, hows that open boarder policy by force working out?

[The Batorys]

Indeed, I've yet to see any enforcement of it.


Anyway, we already have a great arch rival in the UFA.

[Grand America]

To: The League of Imperial Nations
From: Systems Alliance; Alliance Council; Coalition of Steel
Subject: Official Communique
Encryption: Military, Level Two

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As an Elector of the Coalition of Steel, I officially apologize for any rude messages and/or belligerent acts done upon your organization from our own.

Firstly, I wish to elaborate on the current situation, imposed upon both of us, rather unexpectedly, by one of our members, know to you as "The United Technocratic States of Durmatagno."

Again, I begin with an apology for any rude interpretations of the message received.

While we do condemn the actions of imperialism, and this appears to be a coalition with imperialistic instincts (as dictated by your name, motto, and regional name), we do not simply attack imperialistic coalitions for the sole reason of ending imperialistic actions. While coalitions such as yours tend to attract more attention from our intelligence agencies, due to the fact that tendencies to imperialism are more common than in other coalitions, we will not declare uncalled-for conflicts with any of your members, nor will we needlessly waste lives and resources on a coalition, lest you act in a manner in which it is in our interest to intervene. Otherwise, the Coalition of Steel has no reason to engage in any military confrontation of any sort, and would rather to simply remain distanced from any activities of the appropriate nations in this league.

Furthermore, I wish to ensure any and all governmental authorities in the respective nations that the Coalition does not attempt to force her ways upon any nation. In any situations, in which many has the Alliance been involved, we wish to cease the maltreatment of the ordinary populace of specific nations. We, as a whole, are not threatening the League, and ensure all of you that the Coalition herself is not displayed nor represented by the United Technocratic States of Durmatagno.

The Coalition of Steel Charter simply states, in Article I, I.1: Hereby defining 'Imperialist' as a nation and/or person who seeks to further the boundaries of his/her empire for the sole purpose of power.

So long as the nations of the League do not seek to expand their borders needlessly and endlessly, the Coalition will not intervene. However, Article I, I.2 states: Hereby declaring 'Imperialist' nations and leaders as the enemies of the coalition to a reasonable extent.

This, furthermore, states that relations with specific nations that abide by imperialistic rule and expansion must be watched over cautiously, while not specifically stating that any and all imperialistic nations are profound enemies of the Coalition, and must be terminated. For such reasons, the Coalition remains neutral on the matter of the League.

Additionally, the Coalition of Steel is not specifically looking for rivalry between our two organizations. We are looking for the well-being of citizens, residents, and the overall populace of a nation. If such is in order, and imperialistic actions are not instigated, the Systems Alliance pledges to ensure her neutrality on the subject, except in offense to the Coalition of Steel.

Reassuringly, we wish to mention that we have noticed that one specific member of your League, the Last Inexorable Empire of Finium, also retains Membership status within the Coalition of Steel. We will not, however, eject him from the Coalition, lest he demonstrate imperialistic tactics, or attempt to, in any way, threaten the Coalition of Steel's sovereignty.

We thank you for your patience, and further apologize for belligerent interpretations of the message sent by our member.

-Jack Brown; Chief Councilor
Systems Alliance; Alliance Council

[Durmatagno]

It was an OOC gesture for a series of fun RP's, after all I can go to war with a nation IC and remain friends ( Or form a friendship ) while at war. It was simply so A) I could RP often, B) The CoS could get a little bit more involved in the public eyes, C) random awesome sauce.

* runs away *

[Finium]

Sad face, no rivalry

[The Batorys]

Sad face, no rivalry

We've already got a fierce rivalry.

[Dakini Femina]

Sounds legit. Council's and upper echelon's call really though.

As for Metisean Dakini Femina, we're steady that way. 3 new colonies since the 2nd Commonwealth's founding (more or less a century ago), one annexed state (and permanently assimilated) as SoW and joint-rule with two smaller empires as an Imperial Union.

[Alkoul]

Sounds legit. Council's and upper echelon's call really though.

As for Metisean Dakini Femina, we're steady that way. 3 new colonies since the 2nd Commonwealth's founding (more or less a century ago), one annexed state (and permanently assimilated) as SoW and joint-rule with two smaller empires as an Imperial Union.

meh, in the past 50 years Alkoul has added two colonies with a total population of 64.7 million people, Alkoul her self only has a population of 780,000.

[Dakini Femina]

Sounds legit. Council's and upper echelon's call really though.

As for Metisean Dakini Femina, we're steady that way. 3 new colonies since the 2nd Commonwealth's founding (more or less a century ago), one annexed state (and permanently assimilated) as SoW and joint-rule with two smaller empires as an Imperial Union.

meh, in the past 50 years Alkoul has added two colonies with a total population of 64.7 million people, Alkoul her self only has a population of 780,000.

That's quite the achievement if you think about it from the realistic perspective. Reminiscent of Britannia's glory days as an empire, population-wise.

[Alkoul]

meh, in the past 50 years Alkoul has added two colonies with a total population of 64.7 million people, Alkoul her self only has a population of 780,000.

That's quite the achievement if you think about it from the realistic perspective. Reminiscent of Britannia's glory days as an empire, population-wise.

lets just say one (United Fantasia) was heavily in debt and a agreement was made. (laughs evilly)

[Dakini Femina]

That's quite the achievement if you think about it from the realistic perspective. Reminiscent of Britannia's glory days as an empire, population-wise.

lets just say one (United Fantasia) was heavily in debt and a agreement was made. (laughs evilly)

Smells of Fascism.

[Tagmatium]

lets just say one (United Fantasia) was heavily in debt and a agreement was made. (laughs evilly)

Smells of Fascism.

Just someone was handy with the chequebook.

[Alkoul]

lets just say one (United Fantasia) was heavily in debt and a agreement was made. (laughs evilly)

Smells of Fascism.

How could we be fascist our ruling parties for the last 45 years have been left-wing. (current ruling party; Alkoul Socialist Party)

Just someone was handy with the chequebook.

We've got deep pockets, but don't go around flaunting it.

[Machina Haruspex]

And then there is SIMH. Our rule is known to a few.

[Tagmatium]

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To:Systems Alliance; Alliance Council; Coalition of Steel
From: The Triumvirate of the League of Imperial Nations
Subject: Recent events between our organisations

Honoured sir,

It heartens the Imperial Government of the Greater Holy Empire and the League of Imperial Nations that there are members of your organisation who are willing to see beyond words and into actions. The League has never undertaken an aggressive war, nor attempted to expand the boundaries of its member states at the expense of other nations. We aim to allow the nations of the world to stand shoulder to shoulder, without any conflict of ideologies or beliefs. In this vein, we do see parallels between the Coalition of Steel and the League of Imperial Nations.

The aims of your organisation are to be respected; how could such honourable principles be derided by any civilisation worthy of the name? Forcing alien beliefs on an unwilling populace is against the aims of the League of Imperial Nations, as it is the Coalition of Steel. We realise that perhaps our methods are not the same as those of your organisation and we are glad that you recognise this. Our methods of spreading peace and understanding are different and no civilised nation would view this as a reason to embark on war. War is not something that any member of the League of Imperial Nations undertakes lightly, nor any other nation, bar those led by despots or demagogues. It is not just a factor of numbers - of tanks, bombers and soldiers - but the misery it spreads far beyond those on the frontlines.

We are glad that you have chosen to distance yourself from the actions of rogue nations within the Coalition of Steel. It is such mad dog nations that threaten the stability of our world, something which often appears to lie upon a knife edge. If any members of the League similarly threaten or cajole members of the Coalition of Steel, then you can be assured that they do this independently of the League’s wishes. We do not want to bring strife or start conflict with your honoured organisation. Such actions are at odds with the peaceful aims of the League. If the Coalition had decided to raise its hand against us, then that would obviously be another matter, but we know that recent events have not been representative of either the League or the Coalition. The eventual outcome of any conflict would not have been in doubt, but it is to the benefit of all concerned that the Coalition saw reason and drew away from the aggressive actions of some of its member states. Such actions do you credit and set you apart from uncivilised nations and groups who undertake warfare lightly.

The fact that the Coalition does not reject the Last Inexorable Empire of Finium from its ranks demonstrates again that there is much common ground between us. We stand as beacons of civilisation within a world that can often be quickly changing and, unhappily, barbarous in its actions. A knee-jerk reaction is not needed within these times and considered actions are what preserves peace and integrity of nations.

For this is what the League stands for, no matter those pernicious liars tell instead. We do not stand for the subjugation of peoples, but for the chance for those peoples to stand together with their peers in these often chaotic times. We offer a chance for nations to act as equal partners on the international stage, when they would often be little more than puppet states.

The act of apology put forward by the Coalition of Steel is graciously accepted and demonstrates that, even though we may seem at odds for our differing methods, honour and peace can exist between us. It is hoped that this could be the starting point of better relations between us, so that we might not recognise each other as embittered enemies, but as those who are trying to create a better world for the inhabitants of our respective, and respected, organisations.

Justin Traskalissaeos

Minister to the League of the Imperial Nations

Of

The Greater Holy Empire of

Tagmatium

[Tergnitz]

"The Coalition of Steel Charter simply states, in Article I, I.1: Hereby defining 'Imperialist' as a nation and/or person who seeks to further the boundaries of his/her empire for the sole purpose of power."

I think most nations could be classified as 'imperialistic' under that definition; including my own.

Excellent reply there as well Tag.

[Tagmatium]

"The Coalition of Steel Charter simply states, in Article I, I.1: Hereby defining 'Imperialist' as a nation and/or person who seeks to further the boundaries of his/her empire for the sole purpose of power."

I think most nations could be classified as 'imperialistic' under that definition; including my own.

Excellent reply there as well Tag.

But then this isn't the League of Imperialist Nations, is it?