Vapor- A Steam/Dieselpunk Roleplaying Region (OOC)

[Wirbel]

I'd love a three bloc war.

Maybe:

Fascists

vs.

Liberals

vs.

Communists (and similar ideologies)

[Conscentia]

I'd love a three bloc war.

Maybe:

Fascists

vs.

Liberals

vs.

Communists (and similar ideologies)

No me gusta.

Svealand is not Fascist, Liberal, or Communist.

[Wirbel]

I'd love a three bloc war.

Maybe:

Fascists

vs.

Liberals

vs.

Communists (and similar ideologies)

No me gusta.

Svealand is not Fascist, Liberal, or Communist.

I need a new type of grouping.

What ideologies/religions/locations might group nations?

[Servoth]

Servoth, where exactly is your homeland?

Um, good question.

Servoth, is your nation Fascist or any other type of authoritarian nationalist ideology? If so, then Wirbel and Servoth could be allies. I'm planning on having the Kaiser's Fascist son take power in 1905-1907.

Well, technically no it isn't. But everyone assumes it is, so I will just say it is.

[Conscentia]

No me gusta.

Svealand is not Fascist, Liberal, or Communist.

I need a new type of grouping.

What ideologies/religions/locations might group nations?

You forget nationalities, ethnicities, & languages. Back then Nationalism was popular. Hitler was not the first person to want to unify all German speaking peoples.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Is it alright if most of my vehicles use the steam turbine instead? The spinning of the turbine itself can pretty much turn the gears required to move a vehicle, and etc etc.

Seeing as the first working steam turbine was built in 1884 by Sir Charles Parsons
And the first steam turbine powered ship was built in 1894 (the Turbinia, fastest ship built at the time at 34 knots with twin 2,100 HP water tube boilers putting out 170psi at a very high volume, the steam was then recondenced with a radiator built into the ship hull for reuse), I would say yes you could.
But be warned that using a turbine in say.. a gun tractor.. would require a very large transmission and reduction gears to bring the RPM down to a useable rate and to convert the HP (or kW) output into tourqe, thus increasing the weight of the machine.

~~~ Still catching up on my reading haha

I'll probably create the devices needed to put a turbine on my gun-tractors since I'm developing so much in them. I'll probably focus more on converting that energy to create high torque since the machines will be somewhat heavy. But I'll read further more on it to understand it better.

Also for world wars, if you guys start one, I'd probably fight on my own, i have financial and supply allies, not military allies.

[Conscentia]

Seeing as the first working steam turbine was built in 1884 by Sir Charles Parsons
And the first steam turbine powered ship was built in 1894 (the Turbinia, fastest ship built at the time at 34 knots with twin 2,100 HP water tube boilers putting out 170psi at a very high volume, the steam was then recondenced with a radiator built into the ship hull for reuse), I would say yes you could.
But be warned that using a turbine in say.. a gun tractor.. would require a very large transmission and reduction gears to bring the RPM down to a useable rate and to convert the HP (or kW) output into tourqe, thus increasing the weight of the machine.

~~~ Still catching up on my reading haha

I'll probably create the devices needed to put a turbine on my gun-tractors since I'm developing so much in them. I'll probably focus more on converting that energy to create high torque since the machines will be somewhat heavy. But I'll read further more on it to understand it better.

Also for world wars, if you guys start one, I'd probably fight on my own, i have financial and supply allies, not military allies.

Perhaps you could be a neutral nation, or join the war defending your economic interests. (Protecting your trade partners.)

[Wirbel]

I need a new type of grouping.

What ideologies/religions/locations might group nations?

You forget nationalities, ethnicities, & languages. Back then Nationalism was popular. Hitler was not the first person to want to unify all German speaking peoples.

Our war should then be based on:

Major Factors:

Nationalism
Racism

Minor Factors:

Religion
Ideology

[Bessavaria]

You forget nationalities, ethnicities, & languages. Back then Nationalism was popular. Hitler was not the first person to want to unify all German speaking peoples.

Our war should then be based on:

Major Factors:

Nationalism
Racism

Minor Factors:

Religion
Ideology

Agreed on those points, most definitely. Bessavaria is very nationalist, and I could imagine there being racial tensions at the time.

Also, Bessavaria would most definitely back a "Holy League," per se

For brevity and ease, I took the liberty of making a chat channel- #Vapor on Esper. I hope no one was angered by this, just seemed like a smart idea as it's easy to get lost on the forums

[Dalruanazkal]

You forget nationalities, ethnicities, & languages. Back then Nationalism was popular. Hitler was not the first person to want to unify all German speaking peoples.

Our war should then be based on:

Major Factors:

Nationalism
Racism

Minor Factors:

Religion
Ideology

Sounds good, maybe throw in Imperialism, has the warring countries would want the colonies of their enemies. Germany had a small overseas empire and the only way to expand was to take colonies form other European nations.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

I'll probably create the devices needed to put a turbine on my gun-tractors since I'm developing so much in them. I'll probably focus more on converting that energy to create high torque since the machines will be somewhat heavy. But I'll read further more on it to understand it better.

Also for world wars, if you guys start one, I'd probably fight on my own, i have financial and supply allies, not military allies.

Perhaps you could be a neutral nation, or join the war defending your economic interests. (Protecting your trade partners.)

True true.

[Sri Tschow]

Posting stuff here that may be useful:

SRI TSCHOW:

By 1908, almost completely Chinese-Communist. A strong nationalist population, bent to the will of the Consul by awe, propaganda, and fear. Housing is provided by the state for those with jobs, and the Tschowian air and sea forces are a deadly opponent. Should Sri Tschow be attacked on the land, it would turn into a scenario similar to the Gulf War (major defeat with little resistance). Will most likely support Taltaria, Cyprum, Novairia, Desaltonia, Rosswood or Inoroth. Led by the Consul Sun Chang II with an iron fist, a strong sense of national pride, and a twisted lack of empathy for those who displease him. His word is God's word. Disobey, and you are pitched into the Vitus Ocean. Should the nation be in war, it will most likely be over eastern colonization, or by being dragged in by an ally. Strongly opposed to Fascism, Sun Chang is often heard going on rants about 'those Wirbelian pig-dog oppressors'. He has a vastly unstable personality, similar to Hitler. Once seen killing a top General of his by crushing his throat.

[Servoth]

Posting stuff here that may be useful:

SRI TSCHOW:

By 1908, almost completely Chinese-Communist. A strong nationalist population, bent to the will of the Consul by awe, propaganda, and fear. Housing is provided by the state for those with jobs, and the Tschowian air and sea forces are a deadly opponent. Should Sri Tschow be attacked on the land, it would turn into a scenario similar to the Gulf War (major defeat with little resistance). Will most likely support Taltaria, Cyprum, Novairia, Desaltonia, Rosswood or Inoroth. Led by the Consul Sun Chang II with an iron fist, a strong sense of national pride, and a twisted lack of empathy for those who displease him. His word is God's word. Disobey, and you are pitched into the Vitus Ocean. Should the nation be in war, it will most likely be over eastern colonization, or by being dragged in by an ally. Strongly opposed to Fascism, Sun Chang is often heard going on rants about 'those Wirbelian pig-dog oppressors'. He has a vastly unstable personality, similar to Hitler. Once seen killing a top General of his by crushing his throat.

Well, that is definitely going to cause some tension!

[Sri Tschow]

Indeed. He may even just invade Wirbel if tensions explode.

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Indeed. He may even just invade Wirbel if tensions explode.

your ground forces better be well trained because a land invasion on his mainland is going to be harsh. I did give you gun-tractors but even then you can't capture cities and such with machines alone.


BTW could you post a pic of a soldier from your country? (put it in spoilers please), i want to create a little propaganda poster to symbolize our co-operations.

[Sri Tschow]

|ARMY|NAVY|AIR FORCE|

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Alright, thank you (although i did mention put it in spoilers to keep the page 'clear' and tidy but nevertheless thank you)

Do you have normal infantry uniforms though? just saying because I'm having a Xecuiian soldier and a Sri Tschow soldier shake hands, and having officers do it would seem...Bourgeoisie...

[Sri Tschow]

Take your pick.

Private First Class, Tschowain Liberation Army

Private First Class, Tschowain People's Army

Tschowain Liberation Army, as of 1908:

Training equal to WWI-Russian Army training
800,000 men in active duty, 500,000 reserves available.
500 Xecuiian gun-tractors
1,000 artillery units
Predicted losses against Wirbel: 790,000 out of 1,300,000 available units

[Sri Tschow]

Can Wirbel have colonies near the coast of the Vitus Ocean? I want trench warfare

[Inoroth]

Wow, alot happened in a few hours...

I am more than willing to war over nationalism, racism, imperialism, religion, binding alliances, etc... All of these sound like things Inoroth embraces or could embrace.

@Bessavaria - welcome aboard... We seem to have several things in common, your nation and mine, as there is a large catholic/protestant population, germano-Italian ethnicities, and a long border... To name a few. I would be more than interested in making a formal alliance with you, should that be to your liking. At least some sort of trade agreement is in order, I should think.

@Wible- an alliance between our Christian nations is becoming of our beliefs, yes?

@Everyone else who suggested they might ally with Inoroth - you are always welcome, just lemmie know if you want to make it official, as well as how strong an alliance you wanted.

Well... I think that covers all I wanted to say for now. Did I miss anything?

[Cyprum Xecuii]

If any of you military experts are there, could ya help me with my xecuiian soldier?

With my nation being a somewhat mix of climates and geography (closer to the slight tropics in which there are jungles to the southern regions and flat plains and such to the north (that includes the expedition zone of the zhao continent as well) i want to know if my current soldier's uniform is suited for the current environments (tropics and clear fields) in Xecuii.

The uniform for universal engagements and such (shown above) consists of a steel helmet shaped into a dome (it's ugly but cheap) with neck flaps to protect against possible 'whatever' getting into the back of the soldier's tunic, the tunic and pants itself which is made of an unknown material (that is a question which needs to be answered, what textile is good for these climates?) and is of about 1-2 mm thick to ensure not too hot and not too cold temperatures for the soldier. The ends of the pants are 'tucked in' comfortably to the shoe in order to close gaps so that dirt and grime and such won't go in. This covering is achieved by using puttees. And that's it.

Bolded are the questions i need answered.

BTW the soldier was supposed to be female but then became androgynous due to my anatomy failure.

[Fanaglia]

Sorry I disappeared for a few days there. I've got a little catching up to do, lol. There may or may not be an IC post from me tonight.

[Wirbel]

Wow, alot happened in a few hours...

I am more than willing to war over nationalism, racism, imperialism, religion, binding alliances, etc... All of these sound like things Inoroth embraces or could embrace.

@Bessavaria - welcome aboard... We seem to have several things in common, your nation and mine, as there is a large catholic/protestant population, germano-Italian ethnicities, and a long border... To name a few. I would be more than interested in making a formal alliance with you, should that be to your liking. At least some sort of trade agreement is in order, I should think.

@Wible- an alliance between our Christian nations is becoming of our beliefs, yes? <-- Yes, but we shouldn't base the entire alliance off of that. Svealand said that Christians vs. Everyone else is typcially boring.

@Everyone else who suggested they might ally with Inoroth - you are always welcome, just lemmie know if you want to make it official, as well as how strong an alliance you wanted.

Well... I think that covers all I wanted to say for now. Did I miss anything?

[Servoth]

If any of you military experts are there, could ya help me with my xecuiian soldier?

i want to know if my current soldier's uniform is suited for the current environments (tropics and clear fields) in Xecuii.

what textile is good for these climates?

Well, there is a thing about the type of fibers, I know becuase my mother was and still is a quilter. Cotton and linen is best for warmer climates; while wool, fleece, and fur is better for colder climates. So linen or cotton is what your soldiers would most likely be wearing, also most likely in green color variations.

And by the way you don't have to be a military expert to know that, sadly.

[Inoroth]

If any of you military experts are there, could ya help me with my xecuiian soldier?

i want to know if my current soldier's uniform is suited for the current environments (tropics and clear fields) in Xecuii.

what textile is good for these climates?

Well, there is a thing about the type of fibers, I know becuase my mother was and still is a quilter. Cotton and linen is best for warmer climates; while wool, fleece, and fur is better for colder climates. So linen or cotton is what your soldiers would most likely be wearing, also most likely in green color variations.

And by the way you don't have to be a military expert to know that, sadly.

One thing I would like to point out is that in the U.S. Civil War the northern infantryman's uniform was wool, yet he was able to fight in the hot south. I think that wool is a very versatile textile in a wider range of climates than we give it credit for. Inoroth's soldiers are equipped with wool clothing (although, we are a mountain filled region... Lots of temperature changes), and they are relatively pleased with it. One option if you are truly stuck would be to issue a light uniform in cotton and a wool overcoat thing for cooler climes... Just a thought.

@Wirble- what other things do you think we shall have in common? Are there many Italians in your nation? Do we have a common enemy? What cause should be the one that unites us the strongest? I have not these answers yet, but I think that we shall need them soon.