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Elcric Kcalb
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Postby Elcric Kcalb » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:56 pm

Yohannes posted in the Fitzrovia Summit.

Not sure how I feel about that.

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The Black Plains
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Postby The Black Plains » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:16 pm

Elcric Kcalb wrote:Yohannes posted in the Fitzrovia Summit.

Not sure how I feel about that.

Perhaps some extra security would make you feel more at ease? Is there really such a thing as "enough" mercenaries?

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:18 pm

New Belhavia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:He doesn't like Black Plains.
Would you talk about Black Plains' post either in the MO thread, through a TG, or the offsite? I would like to know how that came about...
How it Came About:

Black Plains is an excellent role player, and is already allied with my nation through the IFA. He telegrammed me, tentatively suggesting he might be able to assist us in wars if his company ("The Black Plains" are technically anarchic, his company simply operates as a Fascistic-nation of sorts.) was designated as our private military contractor.

Respecting him greatly, I quickly and enthusiastically agreed. He will effectively operate as an ACA member.

I would rather have Black Plains than British East India, by far.

EDIT: Black Plains, if any of this is inaccurate, just tell me.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:25 pm

According to Akimonad and Minnysota, the ACA is an imperialistic, Fascist, state-sponsored terror organisation.

They don't have a single god-damned piece of proof for one of those accusations.
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Postby New Nassrau » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:26 pm

Actually because my carriers hold 75 aircraft max... and there's six of them..... 450? Well, I might as well move the number up to at least 200...
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New Nassrau
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Postby New Nassrau » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:26 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:According to Akimonad and Minnysota, the ACA is an imperialistic, Fascist, state-sponsored terror organisation.

They don't have a single god-damned piece of proof for one of those accusations.

But not everyone here is fascist or imperialistic... look at my nation!
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:32 pm

New Nassrau wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:According to Akimonad and Minnysota, the ACA is an imperialistic, Fascist, state-sponsored terror organisation.

They don't have a single god-damned piece of proof for one of those accusations.

But not everyone here is fascist or imperialistic... look at my nation!

I know. We have three - three Fascist members. Three. Out of more than twenty.

As to charges of imperialism, there is a good chance a majority or strong minority of the ACA is imperialist. However, the Alliance itself never takes territories. Ever.

As to being terrorists, that is imaginary, unadulterated bullshit.
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Transnapastain
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:49 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New Nassrau wrote:But not everyone here is fascist or imperialistic... look at my nation!

I know. We have three - three Fascist members. Three. Out of more than twenty.

As to charges of imperialism, there is a good chance a majority or strong minority of the ACA is imperialist. However, the Alliance itself never takes territories. Ever.

As to being terrorists, that is imaginary, unadulterated bullshit.


I guess I have what you might cal.. Fascist tendencies...and would you call "negotiation states into subservient positions so that we can exert control over them through diplomatic pressure and puppet governments" "imperialistic?"

As to state sponsored terror, Trans is fairly benign in its domestic security enforcement. We had a little...bout with war crimes several years back. The majority of those responsible were caught and tried for war crimes.

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Postby Luziyca » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:51 pm

As in regards to terror, we usually do it covert with our own Central Intelligence Agency in communist nations such as the Iglesian Archipelago and plan on Swilatia.
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New Belhavia
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Postby New Belhavia » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:02 pm

"...[the] ACA has shown its willingness to trample upon the sovereignty of any small nation that dares to not align with their interests. They are already showing this with their attack on Anglynova..."

Oh, excuse me. Says the same guy who expressed a willingness to go to war with Anglynova himself. What utter hypocrisy. So when the ACA leads the charge to reinstate an internationally-recognized legitimate government, somehow we are "trampling [sic] upon the sovereignty of any small nation that dares to not align with [our] interests..." Oh, no. Ridiculousness. I'm actually pissed off by this. This is outrageous.
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:05 pm

New Belhavia wrote:"...[the] ACA has shown its willingness to trample upon the sovereignty of any small nation that dares to not align with their interests. They are already showing this with their attack on Anglynova..."

Oh, excuse me. Says the same guy who expressed a willingness to go to war with Anglynova himself. What utter hypocrisy. So when the ACA leads the charge to reinstate an internationally-recognized legitimate government, somehow we are "trampling [sic] upon the sovereignty of any small nation that dares to not align with [our] interests..." Oh, no. Ridiculousness. I'm actually pissed off by this. This is outrageous.


ICly, didn't the PGRA invite the ACA to assist them? We're clearly not trampling sovereignty when the rightful government has asked for assistance.

Now, who you recognize as the rightful government could lead them tot heir view, but, alas the intricacies of politics. From their point of view, we're wrong, from ours, we're right.

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Postby New Belhavia » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:11 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
New Belhavia wrote:"...[the] ACA has shown its willingness to trample upon the sovereignty of any small nation that dares to not align with their interests. They are already showing this with their attack on Anglynova..."

Oh, excuse me. Says the same guy who expressed a willingness to go to war with Anglynova himself. What utter hypocrisy. So when the ACA leads the charge to reinstate an internationally-recognized legitimate government, somehow we are "trampling [sic] upon the sovereignty of any small nation that dares to not align with [our] interests..." Oh, no. Ridiculousness. I'm actually pissed off by this. This is outrageous.


ICly, didn't the PGRA invite the ACA to assist them? We're clearly not trampling sovereignty when the rightful government has asked for assistance.

Now, who you recognize as the rightful government could lead them tot heir view, but, alas the intricacies of politics. From their point of view, we're wrong, from ours, we're right.


Yes, you're right Trans. They did.

If Aki actually believed the Ohankaists to be the "legal" government, then yes, but he did not. Note his willingness to support military power to oust the Westforde regime.
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:18 pm

New Belhavia wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
ICly, didn't the PGRA invite the ACA to assist them? We're clearly not trampling sovereignty when the rightful government has asked for assistance.

Now, who you recognize as the rightful government could lead them tot heir view, but, alas the intricacies of politics. From their point of view, we're wrong, from ours, we're right.


Yes, you're right Trans. They did.

If Aki actually believed the Ohankaists to be the "legal" government, then yes, but he did not. Note his willingness to support military power to oust the Westforde regime.


Heh. I see that now.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time a political rival talked out of one said of his mouth giving support to an idea, while using the other side of his mouth to score points against a group for doing exactly the same thing.

Regardless of his personal feelings, he saw a political opportunity, and he ceased it, Its the name of the game. We adapt and overcome, in this case, we restore order and prosperity to Anglynova, and then we pull out completely, aside from what/if anything, the new government requests remain in place....loudly requests, mind you. for the world to see. We look like knights and he gets to eat his words

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Postby New Belhavia » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:29 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
New Belhavia wrote:
Yes, you're right Trans. They did.

If Aki actually believed the Ohankaists to be the "legal" government, then yes, but he did not. Note his willingness to support military power to oust the Westforde regime.


Heh. I see that now.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time a political rival talked out of one said of his mouth giving support to an idea, while using the other side of his mouth to score points against a group for doing exactly the same thing.

Regardless of his personal feelings, he saw a political opportunity, and he ceased it, Its the name of the game. We adapt and overcome, in this case, we restore order and prosperity to Anglynova, and then we pull out completely, aside from what/if anything, the new government requests remain in place....loudly requests, mind you. for the world to see. We look like knights and he gets to eat his words


Fair enough, I suppose.
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:32 pm

New Belhavia wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
Heh. I see that now.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time a political rival talked out of one said of his mouth giving support to an idea, while using the other side of his mouth to score points against a group for doing exactly the same thing.

Regardless of his personal feelings, he saw a political opportunity, and he ceased it, Its the name of the game. We adapt and overcome, in this case, we restore order and prosperity to Anglynova, and then we pull out completely, aside from what/if anything, the new government requests remain in place....loudly requests, mind you. for the world to see. We look like knights and he gets to eat his words


Fair enough, I suppose.


I'm just sayin, don't be mad. Thats what they want. :P

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Postby New Belhavia » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:33 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
New Belhavia wrote:
Fair enough, I suppose.


I'm just sayin, don't be mad. Thats what they want. :P


True, true :)
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Postby Truziodis » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:27 pm

Alright fellas. Here be my new State for role-playing. I'll still be using Distruzi tech and info, but I'll begin the factbook write up soon.

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Postby Lyncanestria » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:16 am

Guys, would you mind voting in my elections? The link is in my sig.
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Postby Adwest » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:22 am

Lyncanestria wrote:Guys, would you mind voting in my elections? The link is in my sig.


Even though my choices might be a tad different to what you might have in mind, I'll nonetheless impose my nation's ideology into your elections. :lol:
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Postby Hippostania » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:54 am

I have two proposals for the official flag of the ACA.

Proposal 1 features the seal of the ACA with blue sunrays symbolizing liberty radiating in all directions. Proposal 2 features the seal of the ACA on a blue "wedge" symbolizing liberty driving away the forces of red communism.

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Postby New Belhavia » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:56 am

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[01:56] <NB> Moral of the story: Don't f*** with the NB political machine. We f***in' hustle for our votes...
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Postby Adwest » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:09 am

New Belhavia wrote:I hope everyone noticed this: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=209614&p=11787325#p11787325


What's this? some of the oldest/most influential nations on NS are planning to combat us? my, we're good. :lol:
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Postby Lyncanestria » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:25 am

Adwest wrote:
New Belhavia wrote:I hope everyone noticed this: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=209614&p=11787325#p11787325


What's this? some of the oldest/most influential nations on NS are planning to combat us? my, we're good. :lol:

Prepare yourself for the war of the century.
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Postby New Belhavia » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:23 am

Lyncanestria wrote:
Adwest wrote:
What's this? some of the oldest/most influential nations on NS are planning to combat us? my, we're good. :lol:

Prepare yourself for the war of the century.


I understand alot of people are eager for this war, but ABH's logic of association doesn't hold water. His declaration of war on the whole ACA, which does not condone slavery as an entity, as well as every member I know finds slavery abhorrent, is on so thin of ice that his justification is not legitimate. We can just ignore it, as his rationale has no accepted legal precedent...
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[01:56] <NB> Moral of the story: Don't f*** with the NB political machine. We f***in' hustle for our votes...
"My will shall shape the future. Whether I fail or succeed shall be no man's doing but my own...my responsibility; win or lose, only I hold the key to my destiny." - Elaine Maxwell
"The historical debate is over. Free market capitalism is the answer." - Thomas Friedman

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Elcric Kcalb
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Postby Elcric Kcalb » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:54 am

I haven't had time to check, but on the off chance these allegations are true...

Why in the name of GLORIOUS SATAN are we consorting with a slaver?

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