Meh. Even with the appropriate amounts of firepower, the international community will lash out and possibly form a coalition to destroy this alliance because of it's ways.
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by Torrocca » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:34 pm
by Soviet Socialist Republics- » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:35 pm
Bankampar wrote:Soviet Socialist Republics- wrote:To whom it may concern:
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics hereby scorns the implications of such a childish organization that aims to "overthrow"
Socialist Governments across the world that were established by the democratic right of the people, for the people. As such, it is but important for Our Ministry to remind the international community again the horrors of World War II, in which countless innocent man, women, and children were brutally murdered by Nazi swines, and how the Great Brotherly Union of Peoples have swiftly crushed them in return, and summarily made them bow before the might of Socialism. We strongly implore the nations of the world again to boycott this abomination.
ура товарищи!
Да здравствует Советский Союзa!
Ura! Comrades! Long Live the Soviet Union!
Nikolai Bulganin
Николай Булганин
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Kremlin
Moscow
[The Soviet's had concentration camps as well? The Russians weren't innocent..]
by Kel-Elysia » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:40 pm
by Torrocca » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:41 pm
Kel-Elysia wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Meh. Even with the appropriate amounts of firepower, the international community will lash out and possibly form a coalition to destroy this alliance because of it's ways.
The solution: more firepower and nastier weapons. After all, didn't we dedicate ourselves to defending the world from communism when we signed up for this?
by Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:44 pm
Torrocca wrote:Kel-Elysia wrote:
The solution: more firepower and nastier weapons. After all, didn't we dedicate ourselves to defending the world from communism when we signed up for this?
No... you dedicated yourself to stealing peaceful communist's land, raping their women, killing their men and stealing their childeren.
by Torrocca » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:45 pm
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Torrocca wrote:
No... you dedicated yourself to stealing peaceful communist's land, raping their women, killing their men and stealing their childeren.
As the author of the Constitution, I cannot seem to recall having put "rape women and steal children" in the text. If you will direct me to it, I will immediately remove said clause.
by Unicario » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:46 pm
by Kel-Elysia » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:53 pm
Torrocca wrote:Kel-Elysia wrote:
The solution: more firepower and nastier weapons. After all, didn't we dedicate ourselves to defending the world from communism when we signed up for this?
No... you dedicated yourself to stealing peaceful communist's land, raping their women, killing their men and stealing their childeren.
by Torrocca » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:55 pm
Kel-Elysia wrote:Torrocca wrote:
No... you dedicated yourself to stealing peaceful communist's land, raping their women, killing their men and stealing their childeren.
Ah, dear acquaintance, you are lumping anti-communists into one basket. Hitler was a madman (and, might I add, a pseudo-socialist himself. Nazi Germany had an extensive welfare program, despite their attempts to get rid of those who were considered a drain on society.) The leaders of the fine states of the ACA are not. The point of this being that, no matter how peaceful communists (that's an oxymoron to anyone who has studied history above the superficial level) are, or no matter how well-meaning they may be (yes, Lenin believed what he preached) they will wind up starving millions of their own people. Even though Mao was an evil dictator, he didn't throw China into starvation because he was an evil dictator, he did it because he implemented his lunatic "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution." He thought he knew what he was doing, but 60-100 million Chinese people could say otherwise, depending on whether one believes in the afterlife or not.
by Kel-Elysia » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:59 pm
Torrocca wrote:Kel-Elysia wrote:
Ah, dear acquaintance, you are lumping anti-communists into one basket. Hitler was a madman (and, might I add, a pseudo-socialist himself. Nazi Germany had an extensive welfare program, despite their attempts to get rid of those who were considered a drain on society.) The leaders of the fine states of the ACA are not. The point of this being that, no matter how peaceful communists (that's an oxymoron to anyone who has studied history above the superficial level) are, or no matter how well-meaning they may be (yes, Lenin believed what he preached) they will wind up starving millions of their own people. Even though Mao was an evil dictator, he didn't throw China into starvation because he was an evil dictator, he did it because he implemented his lunatic "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution." He thought he knew what he was doing, but 60-100 million Chinese people could say otherwise, depending on whether one believes in the afterlife or not.
Yet we're communist and we've yet to starve anyone of our nation, except for those who dare not shareth their money with the poor.
by Torrocca » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:01 pm
Kel-Elysia wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Yet we're communist and we've yet to starve anyone of our nation, except for those who dare not shareth their money with the poor.
Perhaps not. However, it is only a matter of time before any communist state runs out of money to try to make things appear out of thin air.
by Gordonisia » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:03 pm
by Greater Mackonia » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:04 pm
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE OF THE REALMS OF MACKONIA
Addressing: The entity of Prussia-Steinbach and all other entities having signed the "Anti-communism alliance"
From: The United People's Collective of Mackonia.
Greetings reactionary filth.
It has come to our intelligence that a significant coalition of fascistic-capitalistic-reactionary and anarchist states have banded together to establish an alliance dedicated to purging the notions of
communism from their and other nations.The Mackonian realms have always embraced a far more collectivist approach to economics and society then you whomons and your ever greedy machine
known as capitalism.The notions of communism and socialism have struck a chord with us and we have since embraced Marxist economics under the guidance of father-leader.
This alliance also harbors entities that wish for the extermination of the Mack and Cat peoples and the instillation of who-mon rule in these realms and this has further angered Mackonia.
So under the authority granted to me by the Premier and the Mack people I hereby declare a total embargo on all members and joiners of this hatlacking band of reactionaries all trade
between the said nations and Mackonia will end. Any persons of the nations that have signed this treaty found in Mackonia shall be executed and all travel between Mackonia and the
signatories of the "Anti-Communism alliance" will end.
Yours Sincerely: Zathius Kynarsev
by Torrocca » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:05 pm
by Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:16 pm
by Gordonisia » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:25 pm
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I would like to politely ask all those that are not members of the ACA to please cease posting here. The majority of the thread is spam, and I have put a lot of work into this alliance, and don't want to see it ruined in it's first days.
Thank you.
by The Warring States of the Mediterranean » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:27 pm
by Allanea » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:55 pm
by Soviet sptesnaz » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:58 pm
Allanea wrote:Official Message from the United States of Allanea
While the United States of Allanea is by no means a friend of Communists (indeed, the dozens of millions of Communist skeletons at the bottom of the Greater Prussian Ocean would testify – if they weren't dead, that is), we are even less approving of fascism, slavery, and Nazism. There is only one place for the fascist: at the end of the rope. There is only one place for the slaver and the Nazi: in the ditch.
We cannot help but to point out that fascism and National Socialism are inherently anti-capitalist, and indeed hostile to capitalism inherently. This is what Goebbels, one of the chief definers of the National-Socialist Ideology, said about capitalism: “Capitalism is the illegitimate use of the people's property. The man who does that is a capitalist.”
Further Goebbels said: “I hate capitalism as I hate the plague.” He had accused the English of plotting to destroy Germany because, he argued, the English elite were afraid the poor would envy the German welfare-state. In his war speeches, he said: ”Germany, on the other hand, has based its domestic policies on new and modern social principles. That is why it is a danger to English plutocracy. It is also why English capitalists want to destroy Hitlerism. They see Hitlerism as all the generous social reforms that have occurred in Germany since 1933. The English plutocrats rightly fear that good things are contagious, that they could endanger English capitalism.”
Capitalist states who join in alliance with a national-socialist state are stabbing themselves in the back. They will have nobody to blame when – inevitably – the national-socialists they had allied with betray them.
Naturally, we condemn this organization.
by Gordonisia » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:12 pm
by Soviet Socialist Republics- » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:15 pm
Soviet Socialist Republics- wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:
To the Tyrannian Authorities:
In regards to the ACA, the Strong Oppositions that have arised from the Establishment of Your Alliance is derived from the Very first article of your organization's Constitution:
All member nations must be, at all times, able and willing to donate at least twenty thousand troops and two warships, to take over a Communist nation and convert it's economy to another system of governance.
If Your Governate could amend this article into somewhat along these lines instead:
All Member nations must be at all times, able and willing to donate at least twenty thousand troops and two warships, in any case a war erupted only due to the illegitimate invasion of a radical Kim Jong Il Style Juche Communist State. Otherwise, all the neutral, democratic Socialist States should be left alone.
The Supreme Soviet Government is sure that the Socialist and the Alliances' Entities could co-exist, and even collaborate together to bring about the demise of extremist Juche States.
In other words, not all Socialist Countries are economically and ideolically repulsive. Some are running along the lines of perestroika ang glasnost. For example, our Great Union has always been classified by the Nationstates Administration as a "capitalist paradise".
Mikhail Gorbachev
President of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
The Kremlin
Moscow
by The Warring States of the Mediterranean » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:28 pm
Soviet sptesnaz wrote:Allanea wrote:Official Message from the United States of Allanea
While the United States of Allanea is by no means a friend of Communists (indeed, the dozens of millions of Communist skeletons at the bottom of the Greater Prussian Ocean would testify – if they weren't dead, that is), we are even less approving of fascism, slavery, and Nazism. There is only one place for the fascist: at the end of the rope. There is only one place for the slaver and the Nazi: in the ditch.
We cannot help but to point out that fascism and National Socialism are inherently anti-capitalist, and indeed hostile to capitalism inherently. This is what Goebbels, one of the chief definers of the National-Socialist Ideology, said about capitalism: “Capitalism is the illegitimate use of the people's property. The man who does that is a capitalist.”
Further Goebbels said: “I hate capitalism as I hate the plague.” He had accused the English of plotting to destroy Germany because, he argued, the English elite were afraid the poor would envy the German welfare-state. In his war speeches, he said: ”Germany, on the other hand, has based its domestic policies on new and modern social principles. That is why it is a danger to English plutocracy. It is also why English capitalists want to destroy Hitlerism. They see Hitlerism as all the generous social reforms that have occurred in Germany since 1933. The English plutocrats rightly fear that good things are contagious, that they could endanger English capitalism.”
Capitalist states who join in alliance with a national-socialist state are stabbing themselves in the back. They will have nobody to blame when – inevitably – the national-socialists they had allied with betray them.
Naturally, we condemn this organization.
theres one thing comms and nazis have in common we hate capitalists
by Soviet sptesnaz » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:29 pm
by Tehraan » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:47 pm
Soviet Socialist Republics- wrote:Soviet Socialist Republics- wrote:
To the Tyrannian Authorities:
In regards to the ACA, the Strong Oppositions that have arised from the Establishment of Your Alliance is derived from the Very first article of your organization's Constitution:
All member nations must be, at all times, able and willing to donate at least twenty thousand troops and two warships, to take over a Communist nation and convert it's economy to another system of governance.
If Your Governate could amend this article into somewhat along these lines instead:
All Member nations must be at all times, able and willing to donate at least twenty thousand troops and two warships, in any case a war erupted only due to the illegitimate invasion of a radical Kim Jong Il Style Juche Communist State. Otherwise, all the neutral, democratic Socialist States should be left alone.
The Supreme Soviet Government is sure that the Socialist and the Alliances' Entities could co-exist, and even collaborate together to bring about the demise of extremist Juche States.
In other words, not all Socialist Countries are economically and ideolically repulsive. Some are running along the lines of perestroika ang glasnost. For example, our Great Union has always been classified by the Nationstates Administration as a "capitalist paradise".
Mikhail Gorbachev
President of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
The Kremlin
Moscow
OOC: Stop arguing about petty matters. You're still not addressing the main problem here.
That means you.....Prussia-Steinbach and Old Tyrannia..................
Article 1 of your constitution directly violates the sovereign rights of peoples...............
Change this clause and as the head of the Socialist cause, I'm sure the waves of Opposition will die down.
by Soviet Socialist Republics- » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:54 pm
Tehraan wrote:Soviet Socialist Republics- wrote:
OOC: Stop arguing about petty matters. You're still not addressing the main problem here.
That means you.....Prussia-Steinbach and Old Tyrannia..................
Article 1 of your constitution directly violates the sovereign rights of peoples...............
Change this clause and as the head of the Socialist cause, I'm sure the waves of Opposition will die down.
OOC: Why do write this as OOC?
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