The Milky Way series RP group (PMT-PFT all species, open)

[Hladgos]

Personally, I wouldn't use mechs (at least of the regular large kind), but perhaps a All Terrain Vehicle battle machine may work. But what would it be.... Hmmm...

Its an experimental Mech only, perhaps i will use them in PFT only.

We use mechanical soldiers in PMT. Not humanoid, cause the human figure is not meant to take wounds. We build them more efficiently and everything. Spiders always seem to make good shapes for our kinds of mechs.

[Dolmhold]

I think that we need to set general guidelines for EFT/FT and PFT in terms of general projectile power and whatnot. I'd vote that in EFT, general projectile speeds are between 0-35% of the speed of light, FT would be 35-70% and PFT would be 70%+. Scaled around according to how your nation is like.

Maybe that, or we can handwave a few things to make it all fair.

Similar case with lasers and other weapons, but what do you guys think?

[TheFall]

Its an experimental Mech only, perhaps i will use them in PFT only.

We use mechanical soldiers in PMT. Not humanoid, cause the human figure is not meant to take wounds. We build them more efficiently and everything. Spiders always seem to make good shapes for our kinds of mechs.

Well in PFT anything can happen and so im inclined to go the mech approach in that time period because i feel it would fit it better and come on Armored Core Mechs are just badass.

[TheFall]

I think that we need to set general guidelines for EFT/FT and PFT in terms of general projectile power and whatnot. I'd vote that in EFT, general projectile speeds are between 0-35% of the speed of light, FT would be 35-70% and PFT would be 70%+. Scaled around according to how your nation is like.

Maybe that, or we can handwave a few things to make it all fair.

Similar case with lasers and other weapons, but what do you guys think?

I don't mind guidlines. I think this rp group would be better off if it was structured.

[TheFall]

What Hladgos put in his post about my nations response.

"What the hell? Why dont you trust us? We sent some very friendly messages to you damnit."

HAHA, Total Epicness.

[Hladgos]

What Hladgos put in his post about my nations response.

"What the hell? Why dont you trust us? We sent some very friendly messages to you damnit."

HAHA, Total Epicness.

"Why dont you trust us you god damned bastards! We goddamned gave you fucking buiscuits on damn silver platter you morons!"

[Feazanthia]

Gentlemen, if I may.

Attempting to impose hard and fast limits in a soft sci-fi setting is going to cause endless headaches for all involved. At the end of the day, unless you're going to model out the liklihood-to-hit based on relative velocity and then model damage, reactor load, heat radiance, effects of relative velocity, etc etc...it's just not worth it. Throw in aspects like energy shielding, for which there is no accepted model, and you're going to get ignore cannons firing.

Not to mention the practice of limiting projectile power effectively nullifies tech bases (such as Mass Effect), while giving an overwhelming advantage to energy weapons such as lasers.

[Great Nepal]

What Hladgos put in his post about my nations response.

"What the hell? Why dont you trust us? We sent some very friendly messages to you damnit."

HAHA, Total Epicness.

It would be more Epic if RL world diplomacy worked like that...

US: Russia, alliance because we are military power?
Russia: No, we dont trust your evil capitalists ways.
US: What? Fuck you. I sent you nice words.
Russia: Um... okay.

[TheFall]

What Hladgos put in his post about my nations response.



HAHA, Total Epicness.

"Why dont you trust us you god damned bastards! We goddamned gave you fucking buiscuits on damn silver platter you morons!"

Sorry but the UEFP is like that, My nation is extremely cautious and very selective on who they trust. Your nation simply has not earned there trust yet, as they barely know you.

[TheFall]

What Hladgos put in his post about my nations response.



HAHA, Total Epicness.

It would be more Epic if RL world diplomacy worked like that...

US: Russia, alliance because we are military power?
Russia: No, we dont trust your evil capitalists ways.
US: What? Fuck you. I sent you nice words.
Russia: Um... okay.

[TheFall]

Gentlemen, if I may.

Attempting to impose hard and fast limits in a soft sci-fi setting is going to cause endless headaches for all involved. At the end of the day, unless you're going to model out the liklihood-to-hit based on relative velocity and then model damage, reactor load, heat radiance, effects of relative velocity, etc etc...it's just not worth it. Throw in aspects like energy shielding, for which there is no accepted model, and you're going to get ignore cannons firing.

Not to mention the practice of limiting projectile power effectively nullifies tech bases (such as Mass Effect), while giving an overwhelming advantage to energy weapons such as lasers.

Ok then, so how should we go about this then?

[Feazanthia]

Trust people to not be complete tossers?

[TheFall]

Trust people to not be complete tossers?

Elaborate please.

[Dolmhold]

Gentlemen, if I may.

Attempting to impose hard and fast limits in a soft sci-fi setting is going to cause endless headaches for all involved. At the end of the day, unless you're going to model out the liklihood-to-hit based on relative velocity and then model damage, reactor load, heat radiance, effects of relative velocity, etc etc...it's just not worth it. Throw in aspects like energy shielding, for which there is no accepted model, and you're going to get ignore cannons firing.

Not to mention the practice of limiting projectile power effectively nullifies tech bases (such as Mass Effect), while giving an overwhelming advantage to energy weapons such as lasers.

More like a general guideline is what I'm thinking about, not hard and iron-fisted limits. Just generally because having planet breakers when others can not even take out a small city could become an issue. I'm thinking of something more like "In the petawatt range for PMT", "In the Yottajoule range for FT", and "In the Jupiter-buster range or more for PFT" Idea, and then allowing people to scale it based off their tech base and ideas.

[Great Nepal]

Trust people to not be complete tossers?

Elaborate please.

Personally, I agree with Feazanthina...
If there is something unrealistic, we can call it out in OOC and by looks of it everyone is behaving reasonably and sticking to the time period. So, why introduce guidelines at all?
If there is any problems, then it can be dealt at that time.

[Dolmhold]

Not so much hard numbers I'm thinking of, but more like a general idea for capabilities.

[Feazanthia]

Essentially what Nepal said. People will have to self-police, and rely on the community to settle disputes.

Just trust me on this; people have tried to put hard "guidelines" on FT combat before. Most of the community looks on those periods with disdain.

[TheFall]

Not so much hard numbers I'm thinking of, but more like a general idea for capabilities.

So my Red Matter missile would be a no no right?

[Feazanthia]

Not so much hard numbers I'm thinking of, but more like a general idea for capabilities.

So my Red Matter missile would be a no no right?

Don't go popping them off all over the place. Be reasonable with them, and it should be fine.

Even though I personally hated the concept of "red matter".

[TheFall]

So my Red Matter missile would be a no no right?

Don't go popping them off all over the place. Be reasonable with them, and it should be fine.

Even though I personally hated the concept of "red matter".

I am always reasonable with them.

[Dolmhold]

Not so much hard numbers I'm thinking of, but more like a general idea for capabilities.

So my Red Matter missile would be a no no right?

Just don't use them too often. I suspect something like in EFT, it is much like how we use the nukes of today, and it gets less and less strict on the do not launch bit until in the very, very late edges of PFT of which then i suspect they may be used in missile swarms... just my opinion.

[Dolmhold]

Essentially what Nepal said. People will have to self-police, and rely on the community to settle disputes.

Just trust me on this; people have tried to put hard "guidelines" on FT combat before. Most of the community looks on those periods with disdain.

Got it then.

Sorry, I'm still relatively new to FT in my opinion.

[Feazanthia]

Personally I don't think anything capable of generating a quantum singularity would even be feasible in what I understand to be EFT, let alone be commonplace in FT. But I'm not you.

[TheFall]

So my Red Matter missile would be a no no right?

Just don't use them too often. I suspect something like in EFT, it is much like how we use the nukes of today, and it gets less and less strict on the do not launch bit until in the very, very late edges of PFT of which then i suspect they may be used in missile swarms... just my opinion.

Isnt that how i use my red matter missiles now? not the missile swarm, but the EFT version

[Hladgos]

Well Feazanthia, I simply expect people to follow the rules themselves. I'm pretty persuasive, so I can usually get people to stop.