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Postby Trinitia » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:56 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:So what does everyone think of the Tamashkis' backstory?


Shiny. Want an ally?


@Dolmhlold:

I was going to make my super weapon a black hole generator. Now realizing the immense technological feats and precision required, along with raw resources, I may intend on going for something else. Is the weapon fine, or should I change it to something else?

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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:13 pm

Trinitia wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:So what does everyone think of the Tamashkis' backstory?


Shiny. Want an ally?


@Dolmhlold:

I was going to make my super weapon a black hole generator. Now realizing the immense technological feats and precision required, along with raw resources, I may intend on going for something else. Is the weapon fine, or should I change it to something else?


If based off RL, then one would need to know that a black hole only has as much gravity as the amount of matter-energy that has fallen into it, and small back holes evaporate rapidly. If not based of RL, it could work, although my nation would hate to have another black hole in our nation, seeing as they only way to destroy them is to wait for them to evaporate.

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Postby Trinitia » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:17 pm

Dolmhold wrote:
Trinitia wrote:
Shiny. Want an ally?


@Dolmhlold:

I was going to make my super weapon a black hole generator. Now realizing the immense technological feats and precision required, along with raw resources, I may intend on going for something else. Is the weapon fine, or should I change it to something else?


If based off RL, then one would need to know that a black hole only has as much gravity as the amount of matter-energy that has fallen into it, and small back holes evaporate rapidly. If not based of RL, it could work, although my nation would hate to have another black hole in our nation, seeing as they only way to destroy them is to wait for them to evaporate.


My vision would be that it would be close enough to a couple of ships to simply suck them in. The event horizon would be pretty small, so other ships would have time to get out of the way. It would evaporate fairly quickly without additional fuel.

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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:23 pm

Trinitia wrote:
Dolmhold wrote:
If based off RL, then one would need to know that a black hole only has as much gravity as the amount of matter-energy that has fallen into it, and small back holes evaporate rapidly. If not based of RL, it could work, although my nation would hate to have another black hole in our nation, seeing as they only way to destroy them is to wait for them to evaporate.


My vision would be that it would be close enough to a couple of ships to simply suck them in. The event horizon would be pretty small, so other ships would have time to get out of the way. It would evaporate fairly quickly without additional fuel.


It would be hard to control, and it is questionable if it would have enough power to suck a ship in as more then likely it would travel right through it if it was really small (if it gets bigger, maybe not, but if one can get a chain reaction going, the enemy's ships may be screwed.

However, to get it to evaporate within good amounts of time, it would have to be small. Very small. That means its gravity is neligible. It would have to hit an enemy spacecraft's hull in order to actually start off the process, and that's assuming it doesn't go right through.

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Postby Trinitia » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:30 pm

Dolmhold wrote:
Trinitia wrote:
My vision would be that it would be close enough to a couple of ships to simply suck them in. The event horizon would be pretty small, so other ships would have time to get out of the way. It would evaporate fairly quickly without additional fuel.


It would be hard to control, and it is questionable if it would have enough power to suck a ship in as more then likely it would travel right through it if it was really small (if it gets bigger, maybe not, but if one can get a chain reaction going, the enemy's ships may be screwed.

However, to get it to evaporate within good amounts of time, it would have to be small. Very small. That means its gravity is neligible. It would have to hit an enemy spacecraft's hull in order to actually start off the process, and that's assuming it doesn't go right through.


Well yes. Hence why I used "heavy-density fuel" or some phrase like that (quite descriptive isn't it?). It would most likely be quark-gluon plasma or some other theoretical, high density state of matter.

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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:38 pm

I think there was an issue on my part as I thought manifold disruption was a system which prevented FTL. Was I right?

Also, about the black hole: The issue with carrying more mass is that you'd have to move more mass then, which consumes more energy and makes your spacecraft less maneuverable unless you figure out how to bypass that. Like what I did for my black hole system which uses a form of warp drive that can usually bypass FTL interdiction because everything is still there, nothing is really going FTL and/or some other reason.

Also, after looking at the pathetic yield of 10 000 tonnes of matter (0.8 yottajoules), I may have to change many things about my spacecraft. I have this idea for a tandem superconductor energy storage which may be able to store infinate energy... (not generate it though)

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Postby TheFall » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:41 pm

what i miss?
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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:42 pm

TheFall wrote:what i miss?


The first bit of my post and a little discussion, nothing much.

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Postby TheFall » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:44 pm

Dolmhold wrote:
TheFall wrote:what i miss?


The first bit of my post and a little discussion, nothing much.


Debating on what i should do since it seems that most of my weapons do absolutly nothing to that fleet! or should i say your mirror?
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Postby Hladgos » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:45 pm

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Postby Trinitia » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:46 pm

Dolmhold wrote:I think there was an issue on my part as I thought manifold disruption was a system which prevented FTL. Was I right?

Also, about the black hole: The issue with carrying more mass is that you'd have to move more mass then, which consumes more energy and makes your spacecraft less maneuverable unless you figure out how to bypass that. Like what I did for my black hole system which uses a form of warp drive that can usually bypass FTL interdiction because everything is still there, nothing is really going FTL and/or some other reason.

Also, after looking at the pathetic yield of 10 000 tonnes of matter (0.8 yottajoules), I may have to change many things about my spacecraft. I have this idea for a tandem superconductor energy storage which may be able to store infinate energy... (not generate it though)


Hmm. That does sound interesting. How would one theoretically (or in an insane, completely bonkers si-fi setting) go about destroying FTL communication.

As for the black hole/movement issue: I could circumvent that by the fact that the ship is a capital ship. It deploys to an area using FTL, and then unleashes a bunch of fighters. It does not move, rather you do. Although I can see your point. The weapon could be an early attack system (like throwing a large box of explosives at someone and then having you hands free).

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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:59 pm

Trinitia wrote:
Dolmhold wrote:I think there was an issue on my part as I thought manifold disruption was a system which prevented FTL. Was I right?

Also, about the black hole: The issue with carrying more mass is that you'd have to move more mass then, which consumes more energy and makes your spacecraft less maneuverable unless you figure out how to bypass that. Like what I did for my black hole system which uses a form of warp drive that can usually bypass FTL interdiction because everything is still there, nothing is really going FTL and/or some other reason.

Also, after looking at the pathetic yield of 10 000 tonnes of matter (0.8 yottajoules), I may have to change many things about my spacecraft. I have this idea for a tandem superconductor energy storage which may be able to store infinate energy... (not generate it though)


Hmm. That does sound interesting. How would one theoretically (or in an insane, completely bonkers si-fi setting) go about destroying FTL communication.

As for the black hole/movement issue: I could circumvent that by the fact that the ship is a capital ship. It deploys to an area using FTL, and then unleashes a bunch of fighters. It does not move, rather you do. Although I can see your point. The weapon could be an early attack system (like throwing a large box of explosives at someone and then having you hands free).


Well, one can go around and mess with the fabric of the universe making it nearly impossible to use FTL in that area, or using some random reason, the information locker system (aquired through a tech trade with the UPT) prevents anything with information from going FTL, and as matter itself has info, it is prevented from FTL. This is one of the less explainable parts of my tech (actually, the UPT's) though, and I may decide not to use it. The grid like anti-FTL was my little idea though.

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Postby Gar Akaru » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:27 pm

Dolmhold wrote:
Trinitia wrote:
Hmm. That does sound interesting. How would one theoretically (or in an insane, completely bonkers si-fi setting) go about destroying FTL communication.

As for the black hole/movement issue: I could circumvent that by the fact that the ship is a capital ship. It deploys to an area using FTL, and then unleashes a bunch of fighters. It does not move, rather you do. Although I can see your point. The weapon could be an early attack system (like throwing a large box of explosives at someone and then having you hands free).


Well, one can go around and mess with the fabric of the universe making it nearly impossible to use FTL in that area, or using some random reason, the information locker system (aquired through a tech trade with the UPT) prevents anything with information from going FTL, and as matter itself has info, it is prevented from FTL. This is one of the less explainable parts of my tech (actually, the UPT's) though, and I may decide not to use it. The grid like anti-FTL was my little idea though.


Well, a ship with an unshielded black hole as a power source could just fly around, interdicting any FTL transmissions within a certain radius, and could function as a weapons platform.
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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:29 pm

Gar Akaru wrote:
Dolmhold wrote:
Well, one can go around and mess with the fabric of the universe making it nearly impossible to use FTL in that area, or using some random reason, the information locker system (aquired through a tech trade with the UPT) prevents anything with information from going FTL, and as matter itself has info, it is prevented from FTL. This is one of the less explainable parts of my tech (actually, the UPT's) though, and I may decide not to use it. The grid like anti-FTL was my little idea though.


Well, a ship with an unshielded black hole as a power source could just fly around, interdicting any FTL transmissions within a certain radius, and could function as a weapons platform.


That's actually the idea behind my ships... Starfighters too even... However, for the black hole to be large enough to have any meaning means that it would not work as a power source and would instead be a liability. Also, there is the question of how those FTl communications work...
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Postby Gar Akaru » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:18 pm

Dolmhold wrote:
Gar Akaru wrote:
Well, a ship with an unshielded black hole as a power source could just fly around, interdicting any FTL transmissions within a certain radius, and could function as a weapons platform.


That's actually the idea behind my ships... Starfighters too even... However, for the black hole to be large enough to have any meaning means that it would not work as a power source and would instead be a liability. Also, there is the question of how those FTl communications work...


Mine are Quantum Entanglement.
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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:26 pm

Gar Akaru wrote:
Dolmhold wrote:
That's actually the idea behind my ships... Starfighters too even... However, for the black hole to be large enough to have any meaning means that it would not work as a power source and would instead be a liability. Also, there is the question of how those FTl communications work...


Mine are Quantum Entanglement.


I've read somewhere that there were issues on QE communications, but I currently guess that should you have a strong enough probability computer that is synced with the other computer, you should be able to decode the message sent without being sent how to decode it in light speed.

Meanwhile I use wormholes :)

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Postby TheFall » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:29 pm

we still need the DTO thread!
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Postby Hladgos » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:30 pm

TheFall wrote:we still need the DTO thread!

Explain.
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Postby Gar Akaru » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:31 pm

Dolmhold wrote:
Gar Akaru wrote:
Mine are Quantum Entanglement.


I've read somewhere that there were issues on QE communications, but I currently guess that should you have a strong enough probability computer that is synced with the other computer, you should be able to decode the message sent without being sent how to decode it in light speed.

Meanwhile I use wormholes :)


The QE Devices are placed in the citizens heads. They have been adapted to allow an average citizen to use it, with about the same difficulty as talking.
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Postby TheFall » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:32 pm

Hladgos wrote:
TheFall wrote:we still need the DTO thread!

Explain.


Dolm will be creating an IC thread for the Delta Treaty Organization.
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Postby Dolmhold » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:33 pm

Gar Akaru wrote:
Dolmhold wrote:
I've read somewhere that there were issues on QE communications, but I currently guess that should you have a strong enough probability computer that is synced with the other computer, you should be able to decode the message sent without being sent how to decode it in light speed.

Meanwhile I use wormholes :)


The QE Devices are placed in the citizens heads. They have been adapted to allow an average citizen to use it, with about the same difficulty as talking.


...

Lolz, similar case here. We have those micro-wormholes in civilian's head's (cybernetic bit whatnot), and it is supposed to be even easier then talking...

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Postby Gar Akaru » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:37 pm

Dolmhold wrote:
Gar Akaru wrote:
The QE Devices are placed in the citizens heads. They have been adapted to allow an average citizen to use it, with about the same difficulty as talking.


...

Lolz, similar case here. We have those micro-wormholes in civilian's head's (cybernetic bit whatnot), and it is supposed to be even easier then talking...


I put more emphasis on talking, and there is not a separate reality for communication. As in, yours (from what I've read) looks similar to the Animus Display from Assassins Creed.
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Postby Gar Akaru » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:38 pm

Please excuse this minor moment of pure rage.

FUCK! WHY DO I KEEP DELETING MY POSTS! I'VE DONE IT THREE TIMES TO HAVE A MATURE POST BE FUCKING DELETED BY MY MOTHERFUCKING ERRORS!

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Postby Hladgos » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:40 pm

Gar Akaru wrote:Please excuse this minor moment of pure rage.

FUCK! WHY DO I KEEP DELETING MY POSTS! I'VE DONE IT THREE TIMES TO HAVE A MATURE POST BE FUCKING DELETED BY MY MOTHERFUCKING ERRORS!

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Please edit said post to exclude innapropriations.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:45 pm

Trinitia wrote:Shiny. Want an ally?

Yeah. sure.
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